CHICAGO | One Bennett Park | 837 FT | 68 FLOORS
 

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500 N LSD is ~500' tall, and this looks considerably taller perhaps 250'-350' taller (hard to be sure with perspective), so at least there's that........

CHICAGO | 451 East Grand (AM Stern) | ~800 FT | 67 FLOORS | PRO
 

Looks 800ft~ to me, hopefully Reilly saw a doctor to surgically get his head out of his ass so he can get this building approved.

I really like this building, as long as they use the right materials.

This is shaping up to be a really great month. :cheers:

I like it.:tup:

^^^ I think we can all agree that we expected this. The design certainly is similar to 30 Park Place in NYC.

Looks like we have a mega turd on our hands! Very fancy! LAWL

Personally, I like it; the massing and articulation are relatively elegant, compared to 55 E. Eire, and the AMLI monstrosity that went up a few months ago in River North. It's a nice little foil to it's immediate neighbors.

I like it people here rag on pomo but I think when done right it can be really nice. I love Park Tower and the NBC building for example.....

In a complete vacuum, I'd say this is a waste of development. It looks like you took "new york nouveau rich" and tried to graft it to Chicago.

but...

Given the context of the area; it adds some good variety to the blue boxes, it stands out in height, it may play off of the NBC tower and the combination of this and the Gang building would add to the "gateway" effect of the river.

Hell, if the spire gets built, this would still make for good contrast.

Pomo is generally crap, but I'm ok with this, especially if they light it well at night (think Palmolive building)

^Well said, XIII. This is not bad at all. Didn't expect it to be oriented E-W. At first glance, it reminds me of 900 N Michigan, which is relatively nearby. The two will play well together when viewed from afar. I also particularly like the high-floor rooftop terraces. Can't wait for a high res render!

I think it looks pretty elegant. And Streetville could use some height and more density. This tower along with it's park are a great bit of news, and it sounds like it has a great chance of being built (save R-tard alderman issues).

First impression: I like it. I hope the glass color is more green than blue - looks greenish on the render. Green glass with white stone.

Another interesting tidbit from the tribune article about 500 N LSD:

Good to see it's all filled.

This exactly. this part of Streeterville at night is bland. if the tower lights up at night like the Palmolive building or the NBC Tower, it would really brighten up the area.

Is it too early to start a separate thread for this building?

Its never too early! especially with a building with this height, it would be good to get the news all in one place. this is very exciting for Chicago! first Jeane Gang, now this! hope they can get this off the ground. when do you think we will see this tower on the database?

I'm all for a new thread for the Related project. This one depends 100% on the materials. If it's the usual shit we've seen over the years, it'll be a disaster. But lets cross our fingers

It looks like the top will light up pretty nice...the very top part almost reminds me of a lighthouse. That could be lit up pretty bright.

North Pier or 480 N. LSD is 580', so this one looks to be about 700'.

The Canyon Ranch proposal from LR/Related several years back was about 64 floors and was to be 720'.

That'd be my estimation too.

This is shaping up to be a nice little chunk of the city. I hate to say it, but if the Spire is not meant to be, I hope it doesn't drag on forever. I know there's a lot of mistrust of Related, but it they took that site seriously with two tall towers, that area would be really impressive (presuming the Wanda tower and Stern tower get built).

Yea true but the related towers have minimal facade design, just look at 111 west wacker. i just want to know if the spire will be built or not, the sooner i know, the sooner i can stop crying :haha:

IMO this is a nice change from all the glass buildings common in streeterville....IMO if its 67 floors its height will prob be greater than 700. I hope this doesn't impeded the spire either

^ it will be a nice change of pace in the neighborhood.

Whoa. That sucks dick. What is this, 2004?!?

Omg. I honestly can't believe shit like this is still being designed. Wow.

It's so fucking bad. And hand drawn in water color no less. Good god.

#SkylineRuiner

#UglyPieceOfShit

The one BIG reason I really like this building, styling aside, is that there is no hideous parking garage bustle or base on the side or just under the tower. The parking for the previous tower planned on this site was supposed to share underground parking directly below that lovely park in the rendering. If that still holds for this iteration, then to me it's a big win in terms of breaking that trend.

Also, what the hell is wrong with watercolor dude? It's a great form of art if done well and can even showcase building renderings like this pretty handsomely.

Calm down, you'll hurt yourself - keep in mind that renderings like this aren't very good at proving critical detail. I'm sure a better one will surface..

They can detail or render this pile of shit however they want; it will never not be a piece of shit.

Yeah, that's pretty heinous. Elegant massing? Absolutely not. This is just like the junk RAMS is building in NYC where there really isn't any creative massing. This stuff is just vaguely historical and not distinguished in the least. I've seen more awful designs like AMLI River North, but this is just so blah for a tower of this size. I could stomach it more easily if it were 500', but this is just a less cheesy pomo version of the delightfully cheesy 900 N Michigan which is real POMO. They probably won't use real limestone like 900 N and it will be a total precast turd.

^ It looks like he outsourced it to a summer intern instructed to ape the RAMSA style. It's not horrific, but is a wasted opportunity for the city and this area.


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Less controversially, Fifield's E2 twin towers in Evanston are topped out and the cladding about half finished.

https://www.facebook.com/E2Apts

I'd wait to see the final designs once Reilly gets them to downsize the project to alleviate the congestion concerns of his constituents. Trust me you'll be begging for this design once Reilly fiddles with it.

The tower is okay I guess. Kinda reminds me of 333 North Michigan crossed with Stern's 15 Central Park West. The rendering is too fuzzy to make out any real details other than the most general massing. Obviously Stern is aided here by the pre-existing underground garage so he doesn't have to grapple with designing a podium, and he can do something with really elegant proportions.

I'm more upset that Related is redesigning the park. What exactly is wrong with the current park? It's a breath of fresh air in a city that's full of crappy, boring little traditional parks.

I agree about the details. They're redoing the park? Wtf? Why?

It just seems like there was little thought put into the design. the cladding is a nice break from the glass and brown buildings around it though

that thing is hideous, have to agree w/ Tom on this one

500 n lsd
 

I like the design/rendering of 500 N LSD

Honestly, I'd say more like 800'

500N LSD is 500 ft right ?

It looks substantially taller then it, atleast 50% taller for sure.

I'm expecting close to 250 meters here

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I think the rendering is just unfuzzy enough to realize we're dealing with an overwrought, super-sized River North turd at the maw of the River. Really elegant proportions? The building is massive and bloated with some turgid whimsy thrown atop, like a fat old hen wearing a pretty hat, cooing about how the children have lost their moral compass.

Wait, what about the park??

Stern Turd
 

Here he's as bad as he ever was. Design (to be confirmed w better renderings) is a joke, but what can we expect from this disney 'designer'.

For those of you that continue to fall for the bait that shit like this depends on the materiality (as if the details can somehow save a piece of trash concept and overall design such as this), Kamin's article in today's Trib thrusts in the dagger, for it essentially indicates the facade will be precast above the second floor. Additionally, same article basically answers the question of why the park is being redone - Reilly considers it a failure. Related's Curt Bailey sings the praises of being able to bring Stern to Chicago.......thanks, douchebag!

I'd take the original Parkview East in a heartbeat over this POS....

We now need something even taller and of decent modern design in this vicinity to prevent this turd from 'speaking for' the Streeterville skyline.......this can not - absolutely can not - be the South Streeterville 'peak'....

Who knows, though - I guess there's always a chance we could have some sort of financial/economic collapse, social calamity, environmental disaster and/or even outright Western Civilization collapse that can prevent this pox from being built.......one can dream anyway.......

If the Stern design was built using quality materials it actually could be pretty decent IMO. Every single building in Streeterville doesn't have to be a glass box. Looking at the other Related projects in Chicago however...my confidence is low that will be the case.

We'll most likely just be getting another painted concrete shitbox with ugly glass.

I'm interested to see more of the eastern facade. In all honestly, it looks like there are multiple setbacks on the east which I really appreciate. Developers here always seem to go for maximum ROI (who could blame them), setbacks seem to be the antithesis of this. So it's nice to at least see a rendering of design that isn't blatantly a pocket liner. I dunno, I kinda like it. I'm sure the materials will suck and enthusiasm will wane, but it's a nice break from Streeterville's tried and true straight up and down blue/green glass box. I agree that if lit well at night, will be quite pleasant.

So it's exactly what we expected from team RAMrod. No surprises here. I would prefer another style but if we are gonna have more pomo towers in Chitown I am happy that it's Stern and not more LaGrange.

I was just thinking this...looks like 4 decent setbacks looking from the east..could be interesting to see from LSD, especially if lit well. You read my mind..scary.

should be a great building with nice materials and i agree with others praising the change of style for the immediate neighbhorhood.

500 N LSD is 465'
North Pier Apartments is 581'
This looks like it's around 700'

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This thread is missing something :cool:

No please, no! Not another limestone from Stern! Go back to the 20th Century, please. That's the modern area of Chicago, good way to ruin it. :(

I think the design is okay. I'm a fan of Stern, even if a lot of his designs look like 1920/30's. I just like that style of architecture, and the idea that he is trying to incorporate it in a world where glass is excessive.

Not surprised at all. My expectation for this design was rock-bottom. As others have said, decent materials and below grade parking will at least make this tower tolerable.

As for being a skyline ruiner? Lawl! It barely breaks the current plateau as presented (and that's before our wonderful Aldertard inevitably fucks with it).

Boring......

I like it!:runaway: