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tovangar2 Mar 2, 2015 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6934276)
mystery location


I'm trying to make out the name on that brownish-pinkish ugly awning between the rental car place and the LARy street-car.
The street sign looks like it says 2...no wait...maybe 3.....or 5...6...oh, never mind.

It says "Cap 'n' Quill". I used to eat there.

It's in the Fine Arts Building

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...12422%2BAM.jpg
gsv

Your photog was at 7th & Fig, looking northeast.

The Home Savings building took out the rental car place.

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2015 7:18 PM

Shooting party, Los Angeles vicinity, 1950s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/s8VEO2.jpg


I found a Baldwin Motor Company in the city directory. (the logo is on the car door)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/OgfbrS.jpg
LAPL

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2015 7:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6934314)
It says "Cap 'n' Quill". I used to eat there.

It's in the Fine Arts Building

I see the awning is still place. (in perpetual shadow)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/N2Zj0x.jpg
gsv

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2015 7:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6934333)
I see the awning is still place. (in perpetual shadow now)

Yes it is, in my beloved Lebanon St (you could've once seen the Richfield Building at the end of it).

There used to be so many shortcuts in DTLA, now, not so much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6934276)
I really liked the Esther Williams anecdote.

LOL, yes, Ms. Dietrich was an exhibitionist, clothed or not. She shared that with Talulah Bankhead:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g...04207%2BAM.jpg
http://<i>http://imgkid.com/marlene-...hion.shtml</i>


Irresistible.

CityBoyDoug Mar 2, 2015 8:00 PM

LA Body Builder...the York way.
 
So whatever became of Richard Rosser? He was certainly proud to show off his progress when using some 1950s era mail order muscle material.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps7lzqed8b.jpg
LA CD

Here's the reverse side of his photo. It says something about "York" ST... System Training barbell courses.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psgwfeuenf.jpg
LA CD

Here's where Richard lived. 2508 Lyric Ave., Los Angeles, CA
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psjsoez965.png
LA CD

This looks like his York wall poster
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psqcqqjbq6.jpg
Inst. America

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2015 8:40 PM

:previous: You're right CBD, it does look like the same chart Mr. Rosser had hanging in his L.A. home.
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tovangar2 Mar 2, 2015 8:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6934377)
Here's the reverse side of his photo. It says something about "York" ST... System Training barbell courses.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psgwfeuenf.jpg
LA CD

That's the result after only "5 mos. on York Barbells & Courses"?

Pretty good, but we've recently seen better from the B.A. Barr archive.

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2015 9:24 PM

This photograph of the L.A. Court House in 1903 was on eBay a few months ago. When I saw it, there was one bid on it for $25.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/CIKSj5.jpg
eBay

I'm unable to read the banner, but I imagine this is a float for one of the La Fiesta parades. (looks like that front horse just took a big pee)

I'm also curious about the nearby building with the short smokestack.

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HossC Mar 2, 2015 9:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6934276)

mystery location

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/UeUZFH.jpg
eBay / 2_28_2015

I'm trying to make out the name on that brownish-pinkish awning between the rental car place and the LARy street-car.
The street sign looks like it says 2...no wait...maybe 3.....or 5...6...oh, never mind.

I got beaten to the location ID earlier (tovangar2 was not only quicker, but also had better information ;)), so I thought I'd go back in time.

I could only find American National Rent-a-Car at 678 S Figueroa in the 1960 CD, although LAPL doesn't have any CDs between 1956 and 1960. That makes this 1928 view about 30 years earlier. It shows some of the buildings that became the Rent-a-Car parking lot.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...hFigueroa4.jpg
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Here's the full image

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...hFigueroa5.jpg
USC Digital Library

This Dick Whittington shot previously posted by e_r is dated as 1930/1940. I'm wondering if the little building with the Optimo Cigars sign is the same one later occupied by American National Rent-a-Car.
NB. I added the link to the photo credit in case anyone wants to zoom in and check it out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5014967)

Barker Brothers at the corner of 7th & Figueroa.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8...roscornero.jpg
usc digital archive


ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2015 9:47 PM

:previous: So is that Signal Oil sign on the Fine Arts Building? I thought the buillding had tenants associated with the arts.

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2015 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6705408)
Might the odd angle placement of the HOR have to do with the old Mexican Land Grant plat of downdown Los Angeles? We've reported here on NLA about the 48 degrees and sunlight.

:shrug::shrug:

I was taught that Spring Street's route from just before Temple Square into the Plaza (more or less) followed the Indian trail as shown on the Ord Survey map (I just went into this on that long post about the Fort Street Cut).

Is there more to it? I never thought to question what I was told about this.

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2015 10:17 PM

Who left their bird cage on top of this street-car stop?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/Fp8bGf.jpg
eBay

No, seriously, what is that on top of this stop?
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ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2015 10:28 PM

this lil' guy is cute.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/mjIqSg.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...673/UirlOw.jpg

The Squirt Company was located in Beverly Hills?? I certainly didn't know that.
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...as for the DuroChrome Co.

1961 Los Angeles City Directory.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...908/bSeqHZ.jpg
LAPL


not much to see at that address.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...673/VRm9YN.jpg
GSV

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tovangar2 Mar 2, 2015 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6934555)
So is that Signal Oil sign on the Fine Arts Building? I thought they had tenants associated with the arts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5014967)

Signal Oil bought the Fine Arts Building in 1930. Read about it here. The Cap 'n' Quill was a Pig 'n' Whistle back then.

And yes, I think the little building on 7th & Fig is the same in both pix.

(One gets a peek at the Martz Flats in the photo above too)

CityBoyDoug Mar 2, 2015 10:33 PM

Beefcake.........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6934459)
That's the result after only "5 mos. on York Barbells & Courses"?

Pretty good, but we've recently seen better from the B.A. Barr archive.

Yes Tovangar, that sunny photo was taken by the Casino on Santa Catalina... the Island of delight.

I wonder if the A51 on the back of the beefcake photo stands for August 1951?

Mr. Rosser probably sent the photo to York Barbell to show his progress.

I wonder if he ever was given an Athletic Model Guild calling-card. That's how they snared their 10,000 specimens to photograph. Bob Mizer and his friends often visited Muscle Beach, Venice, CA and handed out the card to possible boy models. I doubt if one could do that today. But in those days things were more innocent.

Here's a link to the dubious AMG ''contract''
...http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23872

If they checked 3., that means you take off your clothes ''for free", which is exactly what Mizer wanted. It was all in the hopes that Hollywood movie studio AMG exposure would make them a ''star''.

"Oh, I think I'll check the casting office at Warner Bros. and Paramount studio to see if they got my photos from AMG."
:D

This is what made it seem like you were in a real movie at AMG [1957]. Looks like real historical epic costume movie to me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pskmffiufj.jpg
AMG Foundation

Martin Pal Mar 2, 2015 10:50 PM

There have been many fascinating posts the last few days and I want to thank everybody for them all!

I single this one out from Tourmaline, because it's a personal fascination of mine and these two newfound photos of Monkey Island give hope there are still others to come! Thanks, Tourmaline!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6933378)
A couple more that may have been overlooked? They may also suggest a few unspoken reasons for the island's demise.

1940 - The Island Monkey Bar
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...JT23XABI3B.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...JT23XABI3B.jpg


Undated photo of "Sourpuss" the blindfolded tightrope walker.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...E1PFXVP6KM.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...E1PFXVP6KM.jpg

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I also want to thank you, HossC, for many recent posts where you've linked other posts with further information or clarification. (Or just to revisit something!)

Also, perhaps you and others can answer this: While I've been searching for something on occasion...am I correct that if someone posts something and writes or links something in quotes...like this:

Quote:

Let's say I quoted a post in reference to the Motordrome and then underneath the post I wrote a lot of other information about it and had more pictures, but I didn't mention "Motordrome" at all.
It seems to me that if you then search for posts about Motordrome, it wouldn't search this particular post with Motordrome because it's in the "quote" section.

If that makes sense to you, am I correct about this?
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I noticed recently there was a photo postcard posted with information about a building in it that I thought I might want to look up again sometime, but the words (building name) weren't in the person's post, so if I had searched for it I wouldn't have found it. If people post things in photos, I guess I'm saying you should try to make sure, for search purposes, that the names in the photos are written in your posts somewhere, either in the title or the message. Even if you just wrote them at the end of it, like:

Motordrome, Monkey Island, Chapman Park Hotel, Catalina Sugar-Loaf--or something.

Of course, I'd rather have the posts than not at all!

Sorry for the SIDEBAR.

Martin Pal Mar 2, 2015 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6934314)
It says "Cap 'n' Quill". I used to eat there.

It's in the Fine Arts Building

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...12422%2BAM.jpg
gsv

Your photog was at 7th & Fig, looking northeast.

The Home Savings building took out the rental car place.

Can you describe what kind of eating place "Cap 'n' Quill" was?
(I deciphered the name, but wouldn't have thought it was a restaurant?)

This link says it was incorporated on Wednesday, September 19, 1956 (no longer active) and that the address was 815 W. 7th St Los Angeles, CA (90017).

Listed at that address now is Dublin's, an Irish pub. Though I don't really see it in the current photo? Mybe I do see it hiding in there a bit.

Tourmaline Mar 2, 2015 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6934586)


Curious about the street car's location. Could it be the Vineyard Junction /Pico-Rimpau turnout?

Coincidentally, Car 3151 seems to be heading toward East First Street. Similar style car, No. 3144, pictured below, also has the same East First Street indicator. The street car's orientation may not completely match up in my mind's eye; however, a certain "W.E. Cooper" retail lumber and building materials was once located at 4650 W Pico Blvd. HossC and others explored the area without mentioning WE Cooper, not that there was much reason to do so. http://www.skyscraperpage.com/forum/...04#post6554104 In the early '80s, the same 4650 address was occupied by Builders Emporium. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7538


"Cars Leave Here"
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icoRimlau5.jpghttp://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icoRimlau5.jpg


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...405%2520PM.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...405%2520PM.jpg


http://harrymarnell.net/rimpausky.jpghttp://harrymarnell.net/rimpausky.jpg http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=22050

More Rimpau Loop ('48 ?)
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...loop-10-48.jpghttp://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...loop-10-48.jpg



Vineyard Junction appears to have been home to many building suppliers, including W.E.Cooper. Look carefully. (Pay no attention to the fire extinguishing apparatus. Wig Wag reminds everyone to extinguish all smoking materials near the Junction! Photo likely taken from San Vicente-Pico viaduct)
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...co-undated.jpghttp://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...co-undated.jpg


http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...2/MP-00442.jpghttp://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...2/MP-00442.jpg


More on Vineyard Junction Tragedy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....cs/7141913.htm

Flyingwedge Mar 2, 2015 11:42 PM

Los Angeles County Courthouse @ Broadway and Temple
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6934514)
This photograph of the L.A. Court House in 1903 was on eBay a few months ago. When I saw it, there was one bid on it for $25.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/CIKSj5.jpg
eBay

I'm also curious about the nearby building with the short smokestack.

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This photo looks SE from Broadway and Temple. I think the short smokestack in your photo is the stubby one next to the tall one at right:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...3.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics17/00018269.jpg

Broadway runs along the top of the 1894 Sanborn, which clearly shows an industrial building of some kind next to the county jail and courthouse. The jail opened in December 1886, and that industrial building isn't there on the 1888 Sanborn. Perhaps the industrial building was associated with the 1891 courthouse; the building has no address on either the 1894 or 1906 Sanborns:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...h.jpg~original
LAPL

The area looks a little different in 1906:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...p.jpg~original
LAPL

tovangar2 Mar 3, 2015 12:09 AM

Cap 'n' Quill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6934647)
Can you describe what kind of eating place "Cap 'n' Quill" was?

It was a nice, low-key place. The food was fine. Not outrageous prices. Big comfy booths and very dim lighting. It really helped to approach it from shady Lebanon Street, b/c if you walked in from West 7th on a sunny day, it took forever for your eyes to adjust. The dimness made it a favorite with various couples engaged in workplace romances.

It wasn't so dim in there that I didn't notice a cockroach saunter across our table one time (but that can happen in almost any restaurant).

I seem to remember they had a nice neon sign on the exterior (or maybe it was in the window). It was of a "Robin Hood"-style cap with a feather/quill in it.

The Cap 'n' Quill was a former Pig 'n' Whistle.


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