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The 1962 Restaurant and Entertainment Guide
Since we are on restaurants:
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/8310/11070886.jpg Lileks.com The guide is here: http://lileks.com/misc/key62/index.html (scroll to the bottom of each page and click next) |
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http://dkse.net/david/headline2.jpg Actually, I happened to walk past the Rosslyn just last night when I was at Art Walk L.A. with some friends. I hadn't seen your post and wasn't snooping around for hidden tunnels, but it sounds like a worthwhile mission and I'll give it a shot. Dinner on restaurant row? Hmm, give me a week or two, and I'll let you know what I find! |
Restaurant Row
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Here is 333 S La Cienega as "Zoo" in Thank God It's Friday. I thought its incarnation as the "Millionaire's Club" might explain what I saw as "Board Room" to the left of the spider, but on closer inspection it appears to be "Scand Room".... Is this a hint of its original incarnation? https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L...309/scans2.jpg unknown |
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:previous: Earlier in the thread I posted the above photos of the garage for the Los Altos Apartments. ______ I recently came across photographs of the Bryson Apartments garage. I don't know if they're new to the LAPL archive or if I simply missed them the first time around. below: In this aerial you can see the Bryson garage directly to to the right (north) of its namesake apartment building. The park you see is Lafayette Park. http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5...nerwilshir.jpg LAPL The following three color photographs were taken in 1978 by Marlene Laskey and her daughter Anne. http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3...978annelas.jpg LAPL They even had their own gas pumps. http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2...ngarage623.jpg LAPL http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9...23rampartb.jpg LAPL below: The garage site is now The Tides Apartments (on the right). http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4...esitetoday.jpg google street view That rather beautiful entrance is a side entrance to The Bryson Apartment Bldg. below: Just to refresh memories...I'll repost this vintage photo of the 'The Bryson'. http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/960...ntbuilding.jpg LAPL below: The Bryson still stands in all its glory. http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8...ntoday2011.jpg google street view |
The large apartment building on the right has survived as well.
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/5...nerwilshir.jpg LAPL detail The Rampart Arms at 603 Rampart & 6th Street. http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1...ronrampart.jpg google street view below: Sadly, there is some cheesiness going on along 6th Street.... http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1...rton6thsho.jpg google street view .....and on Rampart as well. The main entrance is on the left. http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2...parto1shop.jpg google street view |
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Artist Gronk has converted most of the 3rd floor into a mindblowing art studio-- Quite a scene---
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Magnolia Park (Burbank) 1925
I first saw this image a few weeks ago in the window of a dry cleaners in the Magnolia Park section of Burbank, then found it on the web.
http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Burbank/magnoliapark.jpg Mike Laroque http://la.curbed.com/uploads/2007-02-magnoliapark.gif It's interesting to me for a number of reasons... Most starling are the "proposed tunnels" to Hollywood. Not only could you duck under the Hills as a handy short cut to Hollywood, but you could come into town on Bronson, Western, or Vermont. (There are a number of fire and access roads on the Hollywood side, but only one on the Burbank side. it starts near Travel Town in Griffith Park and is closed to motor vehicles about a mile up.) Having hiked the "straight over the hill" route, I can tell you that it's very steep and would would be a difficult route to Hollywood, with or without the mega-tunnels! It's notable is that the tunnel route is an extension of Whitnall "Super" Highway. I had always wondered about this odd diaginal street, which is very broad, little used, and is basically a route for high voltage electric towers, with some park space below. (I had never seen the term "Super" used with it before.) The western section of Hollywood way that intersects with Cahuenga is now called Barham of course, not Hollywood Way. I'd always wondered How Hollywood Way got it's name, since it dead ends at Olive, and does not go to Hollywood. I guess it did, before the Western section was named Barham. Barham crosses the L.A. River (barely visible in the image) and then veers to the right at what is now Warner Brothers. However, Olive does not turn north, near Riverside, the alignment is much different. I didn't know that Mack Sennett studio was off Magnolia, and not sure what "propsed Sterling Studios" was. Maybe this is what's now The Warner Brothers "Ranch" lot west of Hollywood Way? The Burbank airport is about where "Proposed Victory Studios" is shown. But Hollywood Way actually bends northwest, about 2 blocks past Magnolia. By the way, my little house in Burbank, built in the late 20's, is almost at the exact center of this map -- it's in the middle of the little triangular section, to the right of the word "Super". I have no idea why it was called the "white spot". |
333 S La Cienega, cont'd
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t...Y/s564/333.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P..._3852483_n.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7..._2165139_n.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r.../s595/333x.jpg Apparently 333 had many, many incarnations--there was 1520 A.D., Cabaret, Climax II, Gaslight... commenters on various sites attribute all sorts of names to it. I'm still determined to find pics of its original state. Pics above from: La Cienega |
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Hello to all and thank you!
Hi everyone,
I stumbled upon this forum a few months back. I've never seen anything like it. I'm a recently displaced 5 year downtown industrial/Little Tokyo resident but still feel like this is my home. Thanks to all who have so graciously contributed their time and stories. Some screenshots of Little Tokyo from last nights viewing of director Samuel Fuller's, "The Crimson Kimono", 1959, Columbia Pictures. http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson1.bmp http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson2.bmp http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson3.bmp http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson4.bmp Bun-kado is still there, with the same great sign (unfortunately minus the records part). http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson5.bmp http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson6.bmp Wish I was there to do before and afters shots; I've got them all in my head.:cool: |
"White Spot"
Regarding the comment about San Francisco and multi-racialism: When I was in High School in Fresno in the late 60's, someone brought to a history class several 1943 San Francisco newspapers they had found somewhere. A surprising and interesting feature was that in the "Apartments for Rent" section of the classifieds, there were racial categories for certain apt. buildings - "Filipino," "Negro" and "Mexican." Obviously if there wasn't a category, that meant that only Whites need apply.
If someone has similar Los Angeles papers, wonder if there were restrictive racial categories for apartment houses here? Wouldn't be surprised. |
SilentLocations (or anyone), do you know where the "shack" scenes in Chaplin's Modern Times were filmed? That part the movie is so poignant to me. And Paulette Goddard must be the most stunningly radiant street urchin ever seen through a camera lens.
Maybe San Pedro or possibly around the Ballona Creek wetlands? Thanks in advance. http://wwww.dkse.net/david/modern.times.jpg http://maxseesmovies.blogspot.com/20...ern-times.html |
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http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5189/5...36fa2ebc_z.jpg"Detective" Joe Musso! Thanks 3940dxer.
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Welcome to the thread andini in St. Louis. Your screenshots from The Crimson Kimono were great !
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An accident at Central Avenue and 49th Street in 1952.
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6...49thst1952.jpg LAPL below: I am pretty sure these are the same buildings at Central Ave. & 49th St. http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/282...lave49thst.jpg goggle street view http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1...ralave49th.jpg google street view I love it when old wooden buildings survive against all odds. |
[QUOTE=sopas ej;5511637]The ironic thing is that basically when Los Angeles was founded, it has always been multiracial. It wasn't until more white Protestant midwesterners and east coast folk started moving to LA that it started really becoming a segregated city. And if any Bay Area snobs (I say that cheekily, being that I love the Bay Area) are thinking that LA had a long "backward" period, San Francisco wasn't always a liberal metropolis; I've read accounts of SF's Chinatown residents who as children growing up in the 1930s and 1940s, knew not to wander into neighboring North Beach or they'd get beaten up. Even Chinese-American San Franciscans as recently as the 1950s and 1960s had trouble buying homes in other neighborhoods because of either deed restrictions, or homeowners just wouldn't want to sell to them.
snip very true, grew up in S.F. in the '60's and that was the case, very difficult for non-whites to buy in some neighborhoods regardless of who they might be....was a block away from Willie Mays at the time and as a kid did not know that he had to buy a lot and build a house in order to to live in the neighborhood http://www.outsidelands.org/sw5.php and BTW thanks very much for your many posts and to all for the thread in general, worked my way through the entire thing awhile back and enjoyed it greatly...FWIW my employer put me up in the Biltmore for a week last year for training, spent a lot of time walking nearby while I was there and that made me appreciate the thread even more |
Hi Andini
I enjoyed your screen shots of Little Tokyo. I spent almost 20 years working in the area, so I am pretty familiar with it.
Here is a "before and after" of one of your screen shots, using Google Street View: Before, Weller Street: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg215...png&res=medium The Crimson Kimono Now, Astronaut Ellison S. Onizuka Street: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg683...jpg&res=medium Google Street View Mr. Onizuka was killed in the space shuttle Challenger accident and the street was renamed in his honor. You can see a replica of the space shuttle at the other end of the street. The Nisei Week Festival noted on the banner in the screen shot is still held every year, by the way: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg221...jpg&res=medium mymodernmet.com Hey! If they're serving Kirin, I'm there. :cheers: |
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It seems that an invaluable resource has been lost: http://www.latimemachines.com/
I won't throw myself off the Colorado Street Bridge, but I do think the loss of this site is truly terrible--I relied on it often to solve old-restaurant mysteries, even as late as recent posts on 333 S. La Cienega. I'm not sure why it wasn't left up even if it couldn't be attended to--seems such a waste of what was clearly a huge amount of research. |
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While over the years many have accused me of it, I'm sure I'm not losing my mind. This morning when I posted about the apparent demise of latimemachines.com, clicking on that link produced a two-line message informing followers of the site that "DUE TO HEALTH REASONS, I CAN NO LONGER CONTINUE THE SITE" or words to that effect.... Well, I should have taken a screenshot as proof of sanity, because now the link seems to work... although I tried a number of the main page's links and only two links are working... fortunately they are two of the four "LA OLD OR EXTINCT RESTAURANTS"--check them out while they last:
http://www.latimemachines.com/new_page_42.htm http://www.latimemachines.com/new_page_43.htm Very strange. Maybe the site will return in full force, but if not, here's a sample of some of the great information that seems to be at risk: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c...5%252520PM.jpg All the rest of the links seem to be dead.... including the one labeled "CONTACT ME".... EDIT: 10 minutes after I posted that... we're back to this: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-t...2520PM.bmp.jpg ... although as of this moment, the two other links work. Allright--perhaps it's not my sanity that is in question, but that I have too much time on my hands. Next noir story please! |
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http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics18/00008773.jpgLAPL Speaking of "White Spots," here's a restaurant I noticed listed on the aforementioned ailing latimemachines. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520PM.bmp.jpglatimemachines. The location above is, of course, given away by the Wilshire Specials.... 5467 Wilshire (at Dunsmuir) still stands, though pretty much ruined by alterations: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogel Street View Can't tell if 7266 Beverly Blvd is the same building, but it could be. From Ebay: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t...2520PM.bmp.jpg Although there is no address on the matchbook, the logos on it and the building sign match.... Interestingly, Wikipedia mentions the White Spot, though only as the inspiration for the name of a Canadian restaurant chain: "The [Canadian] restaurant was founded on June 16, 1928, by Nat Bailey. His first idea for a name for the eatery had been Granville Barbecue, but Nat instead took the advice of a friend who suggested he call it White Spot after a restaurant on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles, California—in part because the name sounded spotless and clean." |
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below: I finally found a couple interior photographs of the Malamute Saloon. Still no address. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7...loon1933no.jpg LAPL The girl with the dated hairdo could be an extra from a nearby movie studio. (just trying to find clues to its location) http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2...aloon1933a.jpg LAPL |
The elegant Century Plaza Hotel before its grand opening in 1966.
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/9...otel1966eb.jpg ebay http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9...otel1966eb.jpg Minoru Yamasaki also designed the World Trade Center in New York City. ______ |
Seeing these old signs while hiking yesterday, I thought of this thread. They mark two fire roads in the Verdugo hills, between Glendale and Burbank.
I wonder if at one time Mr. Beaudry owned or hoped to develop this land. http://wwww.dkse.net/david/BeaudrySign.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/dropdeadsuit/3320650445/ |
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Back in April of this year, GaylordWilshire posted about the Gates of Berkley Square and other structures designed by famed architect Alfred Rosenheim.
While perusing AOL Real Estate today I came across this interesting post about the Rosenheim mansion, at 1120 Westchester Place in Country Club/Hancock Park, having been listed for sale at $4.5 million. I recognized the structure immediately as being the creepy mansion in American Horror Story! Fun stuff!!! From the AOL Real Estate article, "The six-bedroom, five-bathroom property was designed by celebrated architect Alfred Rosenheim (designer of iconic Los Angeles monuments such as the Hellman Building, the Hamburger Department Store, and the Eugene W. Britt House) and has hit the market for $4.5 million...Details such as stained-glass windows, silver and gold leaf hand-painted ceilings, Tiffany stained glass windows, rich wood paneling and six stunning vintage fireplaces make it not-your-average L.A. mansion. So unique, in fact, that it's been declared a Los Angeles Cultural Monument" A contemporary photograph of the mansion from the listing. http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/507...kparkmanse.png AOL Real Estate An undated noirish photo http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2...nseundated.png Jim Lewis photographer A great screen shot from AHS, with inset, showing how it was "creeped out" for filming. http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5...nseamerica.png LA Curbed Quote:
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This house was a nunnery once and has been on the market forever--literally years and years--for something like $7M at one time I think (totally insane). Even though it's probably a maintenance nightmare, it would be worth that or more if it actually was in Hancock Park--as it is, I can't see who in their right mind wouldn't take $4.5M and spend it on a better neighborhood. Sacrifice, say, a couple thousand square feet for a house in a district with less of a fear factor... and I'm not referring to the "American Horror Story" aspect of fear. Which is not to say that I didn't enjoy your post, FFF. And which is not to say that I don't hope someone will step up to the plate and buy the Rosenheim house and love it. |
One of the more intriguing houses I have come across using Google Street View is down the street at 1255.
I've always liked its slightly 'haunted' look....very noirish. http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3...onideawest.jpg google street view below: Click on the link to see this house in its prime. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3725 |
Malamute Saloon
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http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9...on1933oneo.jpg lapl I looked everywhere for this place and found very little. According to LAPL, the addresses over the doors are 1916-1918 at an unknown street. From the look of the buildings, it appears to be some type of tourist area. The street out front seems to be some sort of unpaved walking area. Could it be at the beach, or somewhere? :shrug: |
After the recent posts on the 'White Spot' (be it Magnolia Park or a bar on Wilshire) I was reminded of a White Spot Garage.
Well, I FINALLY found the photo I was thinking of, and I was wrong.....it is simply White Garage. No 'Spot' to it at all. http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3...3photowhit.jpg http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...15304/CHS-2078 above: Notice the Hotel Woodward center left, it would eventually become the Bristol Hotel (covered earlier in this thread). Recently I found this great matchbook of a nightclub called "The Village'. It turns out it was located in the Woodward/Bristol Hotel building. http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8...ckrfrankke.jpg found on ebay below: The inside of the matchbook is what makes it so great. http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8...ckrfrankke.jpg OOH-LA-LA! http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/385...llagexhuge.jpg below: A wonderful photo of the Bristol Hotel courtesy of the USC Digital Archives. http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/243...bristol195.jpg http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...OS-ANG-MIS-004 below: The Bristol today...'The Village' nightclub was located in the area left of the main entrance. http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/5...esitetoday.jpg google street view below: Sadly, the area around the Bristol Hotel still seems somewhat dicey. Yes, the Golden Gopher is next door, but look at that other building. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9...ghborgolde.jpg google street view below: And across the street you are greeted by this. :( It is the 8th Street side of the once respectable Commercial Exchange Building. http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6...hangefront.jpg google street view Oh....and the fate of the White Garage? The site is now a four story public parking garage. ______ |
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Another glimpse of the Hotel Woodward. This was posted way back on page 60....but it's so great I thought it wouldn't hurt to post it anew.
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Found on ebay.
An unfinished 'Castle-in-the Sky' overlooking Cahuenga Pass. http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/469...rhollywood.jpg http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8...stlepass1r.jpg Has anyone heard of this place before? _____ |
Back to Westchester Place for a moment...
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T...s632/rives.jpgEstately
Yet another interesting Westchester Place house is #1130... the Judson Rives house at the ne corner of 12th Street. It is not only next door to Rosenheim's house--it was designed by him. Sam Watters's book Houses of Los Angeles 1885-1919 has some great early shots unobstructed by vegetation. The nuns who once occupied Rosenheim's house also owned this one.... The shot above is not clear, though interesting in that it almost looks like a painting--anyway, it's the best shot I could find. Current Google views reveal almost nothing of the house behind the jungle. |
Flood on W. 43rd Place
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Los Angeles Times Now: http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3192/floodz.jpg Google Street View |
The old "new" downtown L.A.
Early 1980's I believe
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2802/25532d1.jpg Earl Witscher, Modernage Photo Service (sorry about the photo quality, its a photo of a photo mural) Hey! What is this? If you look real close between the Security Pacific Building and the new Crocker Plaza... http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5885/pedbridge.jpg ...its the pedestrian bridge over Taylor Yard. Still there! |
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Build Your Own House?
There is no sound with this, but its kind of interesting (and a little strange)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ekGp...eature=related YouTube The salesman is showing a tract map to a customer: http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7651/bellut.jpg Footage Farm Came out like this: http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9389/bell2.jpg Google Earth Looks like the guy's house turned into a warehouse I kept waiting for the Stooges to show up: :pepper::awesome::dancingbacon http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4733/bell3.jpg The Three Stooges, Columbia Pictures |
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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b...2520AM.bmp.jpgKansas Sebastian This was the end for the Thomas E. Gibbon house once on the big lot at 2272 S. Harvard, across from the still-extant Rindge house at 2263 (and at the opposite end of the block from Hattie McDaniel's at 2203 (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4650). Other neighbors still standing on the street include the Washburn house at 2200 (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4630), the Beckett house at 2218 (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1849), and the Cochran house (2249). Btw, don't miss the Robert Plant/Alison Krause video in the third link above. Still surviving from the Gibbon house is this long arroyo-stone wall along LaSalle Street: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View When I look at Kansas Sebastian's photostream of these great houses--of all the big houses from Pico-Union out toward the west--I am still amazed that Los Angeles has let so much architectural magnificence go to seed. It would be the equivalent of New Orleans (where I grew up) letting go of the Garden District and the entire length of St. Charles Avenue--but being bigger, L.A. has lost even more. Not that I don't understand the economics, demographics, and geographics behind the abandonment, but I'm still staggered. Windsor Hills, Hancock Park, Bel-Air and even Beverly Hills have their charms, but one can only imagine the mature magnificence of these old Los Angeles neighborhoods were they as intact as they were in their heydays. |
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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View The George I Cochran house mentioned in the previous post... 2249 S. Harvard. And the only other extant house on the block between 22nd Street and the circle in front of the Rindge house is that of Thomas W. Phillips at 2215: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Q...2520AM.bmp.jpgWikipedia Wes Craven's The People Under the Stairs was filmed here, and it was used in the poster (photoshopped with other non-Harvard Blvd houses): https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...2520AM.bmp.jpgIMDB |
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