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We lived at 5428 Monroe Street, about two blocks east of Paramount Studios. We could see the Hollywood sign from the corner of our street at Wilton Place and thus I looked at it every morning when I walked north on Wilton to school. The letters for 'Hollywood' stood upright, if a bit weather beaten. Just to the right of the sign you could clearly see 'land' lying back in the weeds. If you squinted your eyes just right you could make it look as all one sign. Little kids do these kinds of things. This would be in about 1948-49. I also remember the Richfield tower in all it's glory. |
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https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds Suggest that it may be time to remove the ban....I've noted the periodic feuds, but Doug has contributed so many insightful, and often colorful, posts to the thread....that should be acknowledged. |
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"Circa 1938. People walk down the stairs from the retail entrance to the Sears building in Boyle Heights." (Herman J Schultheis Collection) https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8d989083_c.jpg LAPL I'd love to have my car lubed while I shop at Sears and save. ;) |
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If my memory is correct, he got involved in a little feud with CBD and abruptly left. I will say that I would like to see Scott Charles return and leave it at that. |
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Scott Charles has not posted since Nov. 2020. And Bristolian is correct as to why he left. I actually sent him a PM a few months later asking him to consider returning here. Whether he read it or not I don't know, but he has not returned. As for CBD, whereas I often did like his input, he greeted me in a PM when I first posted here and made me feel welcome, but he did become argumentative with some posters, more so over time, and to our esteemed moderator as well when he'd ask him to stop. So, I cannot say his banishment was not unwarranted. He was asked to stop and did not. ___ (In riichkay's post you notice that CBD's response to the youtube video has two replies? The moderator of the comments has removed those replies...they don't show up. You have to admit, CBD does tend to get some people riled up.) |
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I miss NoirCityDame, who disappeared several years ago. She posted a lot of family photos showing LA life as it was lived in the era. Anybody know what became of her? |
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My apologies. I mistook Scott Charles for JScott (Los Angeles Past). |
Is there an official or unofficial registry of Noirishers past and present? Just in case the Noirish Los Angeles Clubhouse/Soda Fountain/Dance Hall/Turkish Bath/Polo Grounds ever becomes manifest and a roll call is taken.
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https://i.postimg.cc/jqZfJgn5/6531_Monterey_Rd..png UCSB Here, the house at 6531 Monterey Rd, is just west of the border with South Pasadena, where the pavement changes. It's below the Santa Fe tracks, which are also visible in the flood photo. (George Hodel's house was nearby, so get on it, Black Dahlia scholars.) |
Bullock's department store, Los Angeles in 1925 (Downtown)
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If you go to the Found City Photos index page and click on the number in the "Replies" column on the right of the NLA row, you'll get a complete list of all the contributors to the thread - there are currently 629. Here's the current first 30 with their post counts: User Name - Posts ethereal_reality - 14,358 HossC - 4,090 GaylordWilshire - 3,617 CityBoyDoug - 2,868 tovangar2 - 2,619 Martin Pal - 2,190 BifRayRock - 1,366 MichaelRyerson - 1,139 odinthor - 1,118 Flyingwedge - 1,066 Tourmaline - 996 sopas ej - 836 Godzilla - 701 gsjansen - 681 Beaudry - 681 FredH - 676 Chuckaluck - 649 oldstuff - 623 Earl Boebert - 592 CaliNative - 566 BillinGlendaleCA - 508 Scott Charles - 481 ProphetM - 433 Lorendoc - 409 Noir_Noir - 406 Lwize - 398 Los Angeles Past - 387 Handsome Stranger - 380 Those Who Squirm! - 361 Bristolian - 348 (AlvaroLegido, you're 34th) |
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Thank you, Harrys for posting the picture of Bullock's downtown. My father worked at Bullock's for more than 40 years. It's wonderful to see the building when new.
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I first visited LA in the mid 90's as an employee of Warner Brothers Retail division - the fabled (now defunct) WB Studio Stores that flourished for a decade or so. I was hooked on LA the moment I rented a car after our convention weekend shindig at the WB lot in Burbank for a couple of days, and toured the LA landmarks with a fellow voyeur. We did it all in a day or two, Hollyhock House, Griffith Observatory, Downtown LA, Rodeo Drive, UCLA, on and on... I won't mention what happened in the parking lot of Rose Tarlow in West Hollywood after a night at Rage (? - I think. But I hope a gorgeous Canadian remembers.) The highlight of our touring days: our ride through the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. We saw a man on a bicycle paying homage to a particular headstone by one of the Park roadways. We kept a respectable distance and when he left, we inched closer. It was Mel Blanc's grave complete with Bugs Bunny stuffed toy! The voice that ostensibly led us to that great city from the deep south was saying 'Hello wascal!". Amazing. A real Twilight Zone moment. I have appreciated all donors to this site, through whatever moods they have been in. I'm a deep believer in letting people speak their minds, through whatever emotions they are feeling at the time. Knowledge is in short supply, memory is shrouded in context, I love good stories about interesting places and people. And I have thick skin. |
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Well, I could have found the answer to this three years ago! I guess I should just have looked up NoirCityDame's "Profile" on her NLA page. That gives the answer: J.H. Graham she is! About Noircitydame Country: United States Location: Outskirts of Noir City, California Biography: I'm a historian working in the historic preservation field. I also write detective mysteries set in old Los Angeles based on my own, original research and trying to straighten out the dark & twisted threads of LA gangsterdom history. |
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Mystery location. I'm pretty sure this eBay photograph was taken by the same photographer that took the recently solved DEE mystery photo. "Orig c.1950 Los Angeles, Bus Depot? LA CA California 2.5" Photo Negative" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/II7wYI.jpg eBay A little help please. :whip: . |
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You rang? The photograph looks NE from Soto St. near Wabash Ave. across the Ramona Fwy. and the PE right-of-way and its Macy St. repair shop toward General Hospital. The pedestrian bridge that arches across Ramona Fwy. extended from the foot of Pomeroy Ave. to reach the former PE passenger stop across the tracks. The repair shop appears to be closed, and PE busses - built by GM and painted in the "teardrop" livery - being parked alone in the yard date this photo to c.1952. |
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When was the current big General Hospital building built, the one almost 20 stories tall? Wasn't it built before this photo was taken (ca. 1952)? If so, is it out of the picture view in this photo? I wonder what the multifloor buildings are in the distance, maybe 5 or 6 stories tall? Could they be the older General Hospital that predate the current taller one and surrounding complex? If I ever make it back to CSULA one day to look the campus over, I'm going to GorofaIo's for one more pizza and beer. Is the place still open? If so, popular with students and still good? It wasn't much to look at, but the pizza was good. Hope it is still there. |
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I'm going to disagree with HenryHuntington, and say that the photographer was actually about 3/4 mile west of Pomeroy Avenue on Enchandia Street, just northeast of Prospect Park. The main image below shows the line-of-sight on a 1952 aerial, while the inset shows a clearer view of the bridge and the house on the corner in 1941. The taller buildings just right of center in the middle distance were near the LA Coroner's Office at Mission and Marengo. The hospital would've been just out of shot to the right. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...chandiaSt1.jpg mil.library.ucsb.edu/mil.library.ucsb.edu |
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This has been discussed be4 I'm sure, but does anybody remember "Drysdale's Dugout" in Van Nuys on Oxnard St.? I was a kid when he built it in the early or mid 1960s, but I knew adults who went there at the time. It was a small place, probably just a bar at first, later an added dining area They said Don was often there in the first few years to greet people. I was a Drysdale fan at the time. Don was a very good pitcher, not as overpowering as Koufax usually, but he made the Hall of Fame. He set the scoreless innings record that lasted for many years. He was big and intimidating on the mound, not afraid to throw brush back pitches. Also a good hitter that usually hit a few home runs each year. He grew up in Van Nuys and went to VNHS. He and Koufax held out for bigger paychecks in 1966, finally getting the Dodgers to pay them over $100k, A big sum at the time before the reserve clause ended. I'm sorry I was just a kid and never got to share a drink with big Don and tell him what a fan I was. Any noirishers actually go there or remember it, or meet Don? He died quite young of a heart attack.
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In addition to HossC's mention of another location in Santa Ana, there also appears to have been one in Hawaii (Lahaina, Maui): https://i.etsystatic.com/28447861/r/...88956_qlrt.jpgEtsy You can also currently buy a t-shirt of this establishment from a t-shirt company: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/17...yqw9k6ifa7.png m00nshot |
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Thanks Martin & others! Wow, multiple locations. I wish I was old enough to go to the original one in the Valley and meet Don. I was just a kid and it was an adult place, just a bar that served some food in the first years. He was said to be there a lot in the early years. Did any of you noirishers ever visit the place and see Don? Don was a friendly guy off the mound, but very intimidating when pitching. Very tall, and not afraid to throw brush back pitches. He hit many batters with balls. He signed with the Brooklyn Dodgers right out of Van Nuys HS. His pitching co-star Sandy Koufax is still around, but must be getting up there in years. From 1962-1966, Sandy was dominating on the mound. Possibly the best pitching five year stretch ever. He and Don were the best one two pitching punch in baseball, and the Dodgers won the NL pennant in 1959, 1963, 1965 and 1966, and nearly won in 1962. They won the World Series in 1959, 1963 and 1965, sweeping the Yankees in 4 games in '63. |
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:previous: How the holdout worked out Considering how huge baseball & other sports salaries have become, Don & Sandy's demand for a bit more than $100,000in 1966 was a bargain for the Dodgers. The reserve clause allowed baseball teams to under pay their players. The players could not move to other teams for better pay. In essense, they were slaves owned by the teams. These union pickets were pointing out that Don's Dugout was non-union, but so was baseball back then. The O'malleys became very rich under paying their players. Good find noir noir. Thanks. P.S...Don & Sandy's 1966 "holdout" strike worked...the Dodgers gave in and gave Don $105,000 and Sandy $125,000 for 1966, both breaking Babe Ruth's old salary record. They became the highest paid players in baseball, but small change by current baseball salaries, even allowing for inflation. Some pitchers earn a lot more than $100,000 for every start nowdays. $5 million a year is a middling salary for an average pitcher. Don and Sandy would be making better than $20 million a year today, or at least Sandy would. |
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Since we're on the subject of missing noirishers, I should mention that gsjansen was the nom de noirish for Richard Roth, the son of Richard Roth Jr. of the famed Emery Roth and Sons. He was a really good guy, lived in Florida, thick New York accent, and the last time I talked to him, he was aghast at the demolition of La Colima. He died a couple years ago, in his late 50s if I remember condition, heart condition I think. |
Delete; duplicate post. Sneaky way to run up the post total to move up in list rank. Just kidding. Ethereal, Hoss, Gaylord and City Boy's ranks will never be challenged.
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I remember an old post that he had where he pointed out that markets used to carry things like rabbit meat, beef hearts, kidneys and calf's brains back in noirish times. Even beef liver has become harder to find. Liver and onions used to be a common meal, not my favorite to put it mildly, but quite common in old noirish days. My mother would make it for dinner sometimes. I slapped ketchup on it and politely ate some and then picked at it, and slipped some to the dog under the table who loved it. Now these meats are harder to find. I found that interesting, how food habits change and why. I can understand why brains and hearts went away. Who wants to eat something that makes you gag, or worse just looking at it? I had never tried rabbit, so I got into a discussion with Doug about what it tasted like and how to cook it. I still remember that. I think he said fried was best, or maybe fried in butter and wine. I can't remember if Doug said it tasted like chicken, but he might have :wiseman: |
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I don't think CBD should be allowed back on noirish Los Angeles. His rants were getting worse and worse and his good posts fewer and fewer. He found things to complain about that were completely off-topic. There are other forums for him to use if he likes. |
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Thanks for the follow-ups on the recent eBay mystery photograph, HHuntington and HossC. I've figured out the multi-storied brick building in the distance. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/9BpmYM.jpg I believe it's the building circled below. . . https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RIl9YQ.jpg LAPL sidenote:...:previous: That's the iconic Los Angeles County Hospital under construction in the upper left. I thought (wrongly, as it turns out) that the higher part of the building (that you see in the eBay photograph) was actual another building a bit farther to the north. (the one with the red arrow, below) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/xL1XzG.jpg That is, until I happened upon this photograph....It is all one building.... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/rXmNAF.jpg LAPL And it's the Los Angeles County Tuberculosis Unit. (photo taken May 5, 1939) But there's one lingering question. Why doesn't the taller part the tuberculosis unit appear in the c.1930 aerial photograph? :shrug: |
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I'm pretty sure I have the answer to odinthor's intriguing question. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/WKhqXE.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/MsjUwJ.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/85j11y.jpg Los Angeles Times - Aug. 6, 1910. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/2ShnwK.jpg . |
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Here's the LA Military Academy on the 1921 Baist map. Although Academy Street is just across Huntington Drive, it doesn't appear to be part of the site. Of course, that doesn't mean the street wasn't named after the nearby military academy. The 1927 aerial view shows streets and scattered houses across the former academy site. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ryAcademy3.jpg www.historicmapworks.com |
Thanks e_r and Hoss!
Here's a little more on the Los Angeles Military Academy, just for the record: https://i.postimg.cc/0j8BQYxx/Academy-LAT-1910-8-6.jpg LA Times, 8/6/1910. |
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I wish Doug well and hope he is happy. His posts were often good and I miss them as do some others, and maybe he will post again. Too bad everybody can't get along all the time, at least here, and leave anger and feuds at the door, but that is human nature. It takes two people to feud, not just Doug. When somebody attacks me, I just try to brush it off, even if angry. Feuds are pointless and a waste of time. I come here to relax, not feud. This blog is very relaxing, a place to remember the old days and leave worries at the door. If people disagree, do it in a friendly way. If that doesn't work, just walk away from the budding feud. |
I am still going back to the first years of this blog to see what I have missed. I've been here for a few years, but have probably not seen the first 75% of posts at least. There must be gems on those old pages. I should catch up by 2025.
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This 2020 pic from page 2703 shows the Dee Market. Not sure if anyone has pointed out that the building is still standing.
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Early classic, "Hollywoodland", Noirish L.A. post #68 from 2009 that most people haven't seen. Ethereal, you were quite the risk taker in your youth. Peg Entwistle wasn't as lucky. The classic sign prank was when CalTech transformed the sign to spell "CalTech" before a Bowl Game. But even that was eclipsed by their hijacking of the Washington Huskys card squad in the Rose Bowl in 1960 (?).The Huskys card squad spelled out "CalTech" in the nationally televised half time show. Everybody except the Huskys got a kick out of that. Maybe that was the same year CalTech hijacked the Hollywood sign? Folks, latecomers, the early years of this blog are full of gems. You also get to meet memorable early posters who are long vanished. I go through about ten pages a day. Should catch up to where I started in a year or two. This is the best blog on skyscraperpage, and the number of visits proves it, plus the 13 years of existance. May it continue. Noirish treasures forever. |
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Maybe I should go back and at least re-read some of my own posts. When I was looking up information on the LA Military Academy yesterday I found that I'd already downloaded the 1927 aerial of Huntington Drive, but could not remember why. Thanks to Mackerm (two posts back), I see it was for the Monterey Cafe and McDonnell's restaurant posts. I'd completely forgotten them! |
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