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NorthernDancer Sep 16, 2015 2:31 AM

That sucks. Seems like very poor planning.

aquablue Sep 16, 2015 4:01 AM

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Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 7165075)
AirTrain was built with the same voltage and third rail location as the LIRR however there is no connection to the guideway…which itself was built with LRT vehicle clearances and weight in mind not LIRR's. It may be technically possible to build rolling stock that is compatable with both however it would be expensive and I think the FRA would want to have a few words.

Yes, that old hybrid train idea that they were talking about a decade ago. I hope that comes to pass, because I'm sure it would be far less financially burdensome than other ideas.

Nexis4Jersey Sep 16, 2015 7:24 AM

NYC Subway: IRT (7) Trains & The New W. 34th St - 11th Ave (Hudson Yd)

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chris08876 Sep 16, 2015 7:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey (Post 7164781)
I rarely see the ones at Newark Penn broken and their on almost 24/7..

Ones on track 5 leading down to the McDonald near the light rail entrance tend to be vulnerable. They fix them quick though, but there where periods when I use to take the train (2009-2014), where they where out. But definitely not for weeks like some NYC stations. Still, a couple of hours is enough to irk fellow Westfield riders.

Still, Penn Newark is a crap hole, and needs to be renovated. Only thing it has going for it is that beautiful lobby, but its overrun with vagrants. They all migrated to the amtrak side too, and so, the refuge from the smell is unavoidable.

Nexis4Jersey Sep 16, 2015 9:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7165460)
Ones on track 5 leading down to the McDonald near the light rail entrance tend to be vulnerable. They fix them quick though, but there where periods when I use to take the train (2009-2014), where they where out. But definitely not for weeks like some NYC stations. Still, a couple of hours is enough to irk fellow Westfield riders.

Still, Penn Newark is a crap hole, and needs to be renovated. Only thing it has going for it is that beautiful lobby, but its overrun with vagrants. They all migrated to the amtrak side too, and so, the refuge from the smell is unavoidable.

Most of the station was renovated....except the track areas.... The money for station improvements and expansions keeps being diverted to useless suburban projects that benefit less then a few hundred...

mrnyc Sep 16, 2015 5:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthernDancer (Post 7165224)
That sucks. Seems like very poor planning.

if that is your idea of sucking and very poor planning, then 95% of the system sucks and was very poorly planned.

chris08876 Sep 16, 2015 9:40 PM

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A small city within a city is under construction on the far west side of Manhattan. Known as Hudson Yards, this neighborhood will add millions of commercial and residential square footage over the next decade. With the first of Related's office towers in the mega development set to open next year, 10 Hudson Yards, a major concern was access to the area by mass transit. With the long-awaited opening of the 7 train extension yesterday, the area looks ready to embrace the throngs of new workers and residents.

Extending 1.5 miles from the former last stop at Times Square, the 7 line extension has cost 2.42 billion and opens 10 years after its initial proposal. The extension was originally part of the city's failed bid to host the 2012 Olympics and Mayor Bloomberg's plan to build a football stadium for the Jets on the Hudson Yards site. Though both projects failed, the subway extension was approved and construction started in 2007.

Station entries, designed by Dattner Architects in partnership with WSP I Parsons Brinckerhoff, are located within the newly opened Hudson Park and Boulevard from landscape architect Michael Van Valkenburgh. The metal and glass forms complement the organic shapes of the landscape elements that define the park. Underground, the organic theme continues, with an elliptical mural, curving boundaries, and curved archways that reference the beloved TWA Flight Center by Eero Saarinen at the JFK airport. The station provides travelers with many modern conveniences, including air conditioned platforms for year round comfort and inclined elevators.
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aquablue Sep 17, 2015 1:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 7165941)
if that is your idea of sucking and very poor planning, then 95% of the system sucks and was very poorly planned.

Well, It was poor planning. They went for a two seat ride solution which everyone knew was a second rate plan.

My proposal is similar to the old proposal in the 70's for a train to JFK that never made it: A) restore service on the old rockaway and replace the A train to the Rock'way with commuter rail , B) build a spur off that line into JFK somehow down near Howard Beach (perhaps replacing the AirTrain at Howard Beach or using a new ROW) , C) run a dedicated non stop airport express to JFK from Manhattan through that line. D) Have LIRR service to Southern Queens/Rockaways. Once in the airport, the train will stop at a few new stations, possibly underground. High Speed Moving walkways would ferry passengers to all terminals, negating the need for the train to service every individual terminal. Like in Paris CDG Terminal 2, where the RER stops at a central train station and most passengers then take moving walkways to the rest of the terminal buildings in the complex.

The AiTrain wold remain for intraterminal connections and for the current connection to subways/trains at Jamaica.

I also think that JFK should be expanded in capacity and not LGA. The RPA recommended it and I agree with their report.

aquablue Sep 17, 2015 1:52 AM

I would seriously love if NYC thought about rebuilding it's busiest stations, like Times Square, Grand Central, Union Square, etc, in this style. It would only be a handful of the busiest stations, but that would make a huge difference in the travel experience of many people and a better image for the NY subway. I'm sure it would be difficult and cost a fortune but worth it. Even just one or two would help. Times Square is the one I'd target.

chris08876 Sep 17, 2015 11:45 PM

It'll probably happen overtime. But yes, that would be pretty cool. Still waiting on the NY Penn upgrade. One station that needs a massive, and most likely time consuming expansion is Penn Station. Really just to fix the overcrowded nature of it. Its only going to get busier, and the clock is ticking.

Grand Central is fine though and a national treasure, but the Times Square stop could use an overhaul as its the subways busiest stop in terms of passenger traffic.

mrnyc Sep 18, 2015 2:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 7166631)
I would seriously love if NYC thought about rebuilding it's busiest stations, like Times Square, Grand Central, Union Square, etc, in this style. It would only be a handful of the busiest stations, but that would make a huge difference in the travel experience of many people and a better image for the NY subway. I'm sure it would be difficult and cost a fortune but worth it. Even just one or two would help. Times Square is the one I'd target.

mta did do just that -- downtown at the fulton street station, which was formerly a depressing rat maze. for the record i was against it, because i would rather all hands and funds on deck for the 2nd avenue subway, but it certainly is a bazillion times nicer transit experience at that station now.

Nexis4Jersey Sep 18, 2015 6:16 PM

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ardecila Sep 19, 2015 4:31 AM

LOLOL coming in "under budget". I guess if you keep increasing the budget, you can say whatever you want...

BrownTown Sep 19, 2015 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 7169515)
LOLOL coming in "under budget". I guess if you keep increasing the budget, you can say whatever you want...

Yeah, I'll believe the opening date and budget when I see it. And I'll put $1000 on it ending up over budget and behind schedule to any takers at 10:1 odds against.

N830MH Sep 19, 2015 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey (Post 7168935)

Wow!!! Looking good! It was so beautiful. Thanks for sharing the video.

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey (Post 7165453)
NYC Subway: IRT (7) Trains & The New W. 34th St - 11th Ave (Hudson Yd)

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So, I have more questions about next 7th Ave extensions? When it will be completed? Does the trains will go through Hudson Yard?

Cynicism Sep 20, 2015 12:52 AM

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Nexis4Jersey Sep 20, 2015 7:44 AM

IND/BMT 63rd Street Line


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IND/BMT 63rd Street Line at Roosevelt Island Station
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IND/BMT 63rd Street Line at Roosevelt Island Station
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IND/BMT 63rd Street Line at Roosevelt Island Station
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IND/BMT 63rd Street Line at Lexington Avenue – 63rd Street
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Nexis4Jersey Sep 20, 2015 7:45 AM

From last week...

34th Street - Hudson Yards....

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mrnyc Sep 20, 2015 1:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cynicism (Post 7170123)
Fulton Street is a really good example of what the MTA CANNOT do.

A new coat of paint here plus a few tiles there....A simple job that was insanely over budget and the opening was delayed numerous times, this a pity really. At this rate every subway station will get renovated by 2578. NOT GOOD.

Let's not forget about the embarrassing situation a few blocks away. *cough* Path train station


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well they don't call you cynicism for nothing! :haha:

Nexis4Jersey Sep 23, 2015 4:38 AM

Subway Tour: NEW 34 St - Hudson Yards Station

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