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Pedestrian Apr 14, 2020 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jtown,man (Post 8893749)

I think the number of people who would use biking as an alternative to driving is way higher than the number of people currently biking. It's really an untapped source of transportation in this country.

Maybe in Norfolk. Not in San Francisco. We have had demonstrations by the organized and politically active Bicycle Coalition tying up the Friday commute downtown in order to get what they want for decades now. We have rental bikes from several companies including Ford all over downtown. We have many established bike lanes and routes. Streets have been redesigned and in at least one case cars have been banned.

But IMHO what really limits cycling in SF is geography. My city is not the Netherlands or Denmark, which is to say it isn't flat. Most bike commuting seems to be from neighborhoods popular with Millennials but that also happen to be on the flatlands along with downtown such as the Mission and Castro. You don't see many people biking from up on Twin Peaks or Pacific Heights or even to downtown from the western part of town (you do see some people biking short distances within those latter areas).

mrnyc Apr 14, 2020 11:04 PM

a silly aside, but it seems one of the earliest known uses of the ef word was during a pandemic:



https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/one-of...ague-lockdown/

Crawford Apr 14, 2020 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8893628)
No but there are many tens of thousands of drivers and only thousands of people who cycle as a primary means of transportation and yet San Francisco has demonized the drivers and slavishly gives the cyclists almost everything they demand. The result, by the way, has been gridlock on streets that used to flow smoothly.

Isn't this an argument for increasing transportation options? SF is very auto-oriented, congestion is increasing, yet remains a fairly good environment for non-auto mobility. Why not build the infrastructure? And obviously drivers benefit from others taking transit/walking/biking.

I've driven in SF, and it isn't a difficult driving city, at all. It's quite welcoming to drivers for global standards.

mrnyc Apr 15, 2020 12:11 AM

nyc daily deaths jumped back up to 778 yesterday —

— and total deaths now over 10k.

its all just beyond belief.

Steely Dan Apr 15, 2020 2:13 AM

* posts deleted *

Once again, NO POLITICS IN THIS THREAD!

take that shit to the current events toilet.

dktshb Apr 15, 2020 3:12 AM

Damn, I think Sweden will likely be the next Country that is stricken and stricken bad.

dave8721 Apr 15, 2020 4:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 8893881)
nyc daily deaths jumped back up to 778 yesterday —

— and total deaths now over 10k.

its all just beyond belief.

Especially when you consider COVID-19 deaths are vastly under-counted in NYC, some estimate by as much as half. Most at-home deaths are not counted. Or at least not counted for a couple of weeks after they happen (need to wait on the coroners backlog, then be examined, then have test results...etc).
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020...irus-fdny.html
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At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...nting/2368678/
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Massive Spike in NYC ‘Cardiac Arrest’ Deaths Seen as Sign of COVID-19 Undercounting
https://gothamist.com/news/surge-num...related-deaths
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Staggering Surge Of NYers Dying In Their Homes Suggests City Is Undercounting Coronavirus Fatalities

Crawford Apr 15, 2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dave8721 (Post 8894069)
Especially when you consider COVID-19 deaths are vastly under-counted in NYC, some estimate by as much as half. Most at-home deaths are not counted. Or at least not counted for a couple of weeks after they happen (need to wait on the coroners backlog, then be examined, then have test results...etc).

No, the new estimates include at-home deaths. In fact the new numbers are quite controversial, because now nearly 40% of Covid-19 deaths in NYC have no confirmed Covid-19 determination.

The death count went from like 6,500 to 10,000 in one day due to the at-home death reclassification.

chris08876 Apr 15, 2020 12:21 PM

I read something yesterday that referenced social distancing up to 2022, and possibly even 2024, assuming a vaccine fails or they fail to find a vaccine. Social distancing until 2022 would be insanity.

the urban politician Apr 15, 2020 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8894171)
I read something yesterday that referenced social distancing up to 2022, and possibly even 2024, assuming a vaccine fails or they fail to find a vaccine. Social distancing until 2022 would be insanity.

I’m not even sure how that is possible without nullifying society as we know it.

At some point we just have to accept this disease’s existence and carry on, I say. And I’m a healthcare worker!

Pedestrian Apr 15, 2020 5:11 PM

Plateauing the curve:

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...970425/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...970426/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...970425/enhance
https://projects.sfchronicle.com/2020/coronavirus-map/

sopas ej Apr 15, 2020 5:19 PM

I need to put together a ninja outfit...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/9837...itemid=8797934

Starting today, everyone in all of Los Angeles County has to wear a face covering when out and about. I hadn't been driving to/from work with one, being that I usually drive by myself with the a/c on and the windows closed, but this morning I drove to work wearing mine.

Pedestrian Apr 15, 2020 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8894449)
I need to put together a ninja outfit...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/9837...itemid=8797934

Starting today, everyone in all of Los Angeles County has to wear a face covering when out and about. I hadn't been driving to/from work with one, being that I usually drive with the a/c on and the windows closed, but this morning I drove to work wearing mine.

Hard to believe they mean that to apply when you are inside a car with the windows up. When I ultimately drive from Tucson to SF, I don't plan to be wearing a mask in the car.

sopas ej Apr 15, 2020 5:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8894452)
Hard to believe they mean that to apply when you are inside a car with the windows up. When I ultimately drive from Tucson to SF, I don't plan to be wearing a mask in the car.

I don't think you need to be wearing one inside a car with the windows up if you're driving alone, but I just wore it anyway.

The funny thing is, weeks ago, I started seeing solo drivers wearing face masks, and I thought it was silly. Hehe but this morning I wore one driving to work.

hauntedheadnc Apr 15, 2020 6:31 PM

My favorite coffee shop reopened today, so that was nice... I've noticed a lot of other restaurants are reopening as well, as the lockdown stretches on with no end in sight. Other restaurants are begging for help on social media, and some are just closing. Asheville has thus far lost a wine bar and a cigar bar, with more to come. A survey of 500 business owners downtown found that about 32% are planning to close up shop.

Meanwhile, in having to deal with a sick cat, I've learned how much you start to rely on pantomime and interpretive dance when your face is covered by a mask and no one can see your mouth or whether you're smiling or frowning. Lots of sweeping hand gestures.

Lastly, come hell, high water, or a global health crisis, our local ABC station, WLOS News 13, remains the not-quite-ready-for-primetime news channel:

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a8&oe=5EBC72CA
Source.

The funny thing is that the headline makes more sense with the typo than without it.

Buckeye Native 001 Apr 15, 2020 7:30 PM

Well, they say jacking off can cure depression... :shrug:

hauntedheadnc Apr 15, 2020 7:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001 (Post 8894612)
Well, they say jacking off can cure depression... :shrug:

Just be careful... You don't want a flood warning.

Buckeye Native 001 Apr 15, 2020 7:46 PM

:haha:

Pedestrian Apr 15, 2020 8:36 PM

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San Francisco to get at least 8,000 hotel rooms for homeless during COVID-19 pandemic
By Brock Keeling
Apr 15, 2020, 8:38am PDT

The Board of Supervisors unanimously passed an emergency ordinance Tuesday that would grant roughly 8,250 hotel rooms in the city for people affected by the stay-at-place order, with 7,000 earmarked for the city’s homeless residents

Ever since shelter-at-home orders went into effect, the city’s hotel industry has taken a major hit, with almost every SF hotel remaining vacant . . . .

The legislation requires the city to procure the hotel rooms by April 26. According to the San Francisco Examiner, an additional 500 rooms will be for discharged or transferred hospital patients who need a place to quarantine and another 750 rooms will go toward front-line workers, which are included in the 8,250 figure.

Mission Local reports that it will cost $58.6 million to rent the 8,250 rooms for one month, which includes security, food, and other room cleaning expenses. The publication also notes, “Supervisors emphasized that the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the California Office of Emergency Services could reimburse the city for up to 93.75 percent of emergency costs that it will incur in implementing the legislation.”

Mayor London Breed . . . claims that staffing the hotels for the city’s most at-risk residents, many of whom suffer from addiction or mental disorders, proved the most challenging aspect of acquiring the space.

The mayor’s plan to house homeless people inside Moscone Center, a convention center, and the Palace of Fine Arts fell apart after Street Sheet published photos of too-close sleeping mats on the floor and inadequate bathroom facilities. The plan was immediately shelved.

The new legislation still needs to work its way through several channels before going into effect, with multiple departments needing to okay it. Although counts vary, there are anywhere between 8,000 to 10,000 homeless people in the city San Francisco . . . .
https://sf.curbed.com/2020/4/15/2122...9%2520pandemic

My question is which hotels are going to be willing to rent their rooms for this purpose. It's not cost-free for them. Some of the homeless doubtless carry pests such as fleas and lice, even bed bugs. And they aren't likely to treat their new free quarters with much care or respect, one suspects.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to pay SF's median room rate for a room recently vacated by a homeless mentally ill alcoholic recently living on the street unless pretty much everything in it has been replaced and the space fumigated.

montréaliste Apr 15, 2020 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8894666)
And they aren't likely to treat their new free quarters with much care or respect, one suspects.



Reminds me of what "The Who" would do to hotel rooms back in the day.

In the present case, one wonders how the who's who of homeless folk will treat their new digs.


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