KPF did Pingan which has a roof in the 1800ft range, and pretty much everyone has said would be a good fit for NY.
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I'd much rather have a Chow Tai Fook or SWFC than a PingAn...
Or better yet, come up with something original and not copy something from China ;) |
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KPF also did the earlier Hudson Yards proposal. But beyond that, I don't want another 1 Bryant Park (BofA) or 1 Vanderbilt clone. Not to mention we need more variety designing the tallest towers of the Hudson Yards. Some other KPF designs... http://kpf.com/project.asp?T=14&ID=138 http://kpf.com/projects/Project138/18296_hr.jpghttp://kpf.com/projects/Project138/18290_hr.jpg http://kpf.com/projects/Project163/18949_hr.jpghttp://kpf.com/projects/Project163/16866_hr.jpg Some less inspiring designs from KPF... http://kpf.com/projects/Project258/16056_hr.jpghttp://kpf.com/projects/Project258/16058_hr.jpg http://kpf.com/projects/Project36/18180_hr.jpg But even a simple design can turn out nice... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8n_NL61dAo...L+-+KPF+12.jpg http://1st-architecture.blogspot.com...korea-kpf.html |
^#3 is gorgeous :slob:
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That's horrible.
Here's another design of similar size. I haven't followed these developments, so I don't know what's accurate and what isn't. And of course, this is all fun and games since we don't really know who will design the tower. http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/tian...ai-center/310/ Quote:
http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/clas...%28c%29SOM.jpg http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/clas...%28c%29SOM.jpg http://www.som.com/FILE/18321/newwor...jpg?h=800&s=17 http://www.som.com/projects/tianjin_ctf_finance_centre |
This building will have slightly more SF than the Chow Tai Fook Tianjin so I could easily see a 1450+ foot occupied building.
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It's still all a matter of design, and what mix of space gets built. Regardless of whatever mx, they will need a major tenant for the office space. That could have an effect on the exact configuration of the amount of office space vs. any other space. Quote:
I wouldn't be at all surprised if some residential or hotel space was thrown in. |
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I'm thinking of something that ends in a point, and maybe goes past 1,800 feet architecturally. Then it could get that soaring effect.
http://www.hqtravel.net/uploads/8_6.jpg http://www.hqtravel.net/middleeast/d...khalifa-8.html http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ah,_render.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Tower https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...vD74QmBerZ_WdJ http://hdwallpapervault.com/kingdom-tower-2016.html |
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I really believe that whatever the design, it's going to be a significant difference in height from Related's north tower. That would put it in the realm of the Nordstrom tower. Will they push it higher than the Freedom Tower in height? Who knows. If it were in reach, I would do it. http://chelseanow.com/2014/05/tishma...r-438-million/ Tishman Speyer Snaps up ‘Spire’ Site for $438 Million http://chelseanow.com/wp-content/upl...LF1L2590-1.png The corner of 10th Ave. & W. 34th St. could see the construction of America’s tallest office tower, which would sit just north of the Hudson Yards project (whose cranes are visible at left). by Scott Stiffler May 1, 2014 Quote:
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please let new york city go further
i would like to see that building will be a megatall with the roof height is +1800 ft and with spire will be +2150 ft in comparison with others megatall i think that it's nice place for megatall!!! i wish that the end of world trade center domination comes with build a megatall hudson spire!! |
I like that design.
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Beyond that, despite the available space, the WTC is limited in the grand scheme of Manhattan office space. Take Related's towers for example. Time Warner basically got the north tower, no other signature tenant will look at it as prime headquarters space because TW already got the best floors (the higher floors tend to be smaller and more expensive). So the city needs to be realistic, and have multiple options. Then you have the category of tenants. Law Firms, for example, won't likely be the firms leading the charge to the new WTC . Yet, as a group, they are one of the largest users of office space in Manhattan. The WTC is Downtown, and it will just take longer to fill the space. We learned that at least from the original complex. Quote:
As shown below, we can see that the site sits in the midst of active leasing in the Hudson Yards (see 3 Hudson, Manhattan West, etc.) Tishman Speyer probably doesn't have any finalized plans for what it will build at this time, other than that it will have a lot of office space. Look for more to be revealed in the future, as they won't build without a tenant. To get a tenant, you have to have at least some plans. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/154488249/original.jpg |
I don't know if I would actually want something much higher than 1800 feet with a spire. The Burj looks weird on Dubai's skyline and something that size would look weird here too. I like that building but it isn't NYC.
I would actually prefer a 1450-1600 foot building very well designed. |
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