Pedestrian still is hung up on the “getting Covid” paranoia when we are all well past that.

What matters is the “getting seriously ill from Covid”.

For him, just testing positive for Covid, by itself, is a vaccine failure and thus synonymous with death. Thus we all need to lock ourselves in our basements with masks on and peer out our windows suspiciously at strangers, frequently yelling “Get out, you snerks!” like he does :haha:

The idiots that make up our local media keep trying to throw wrenches in happiness. All sorts of art fairs, music festivals, etc are happening and each report is accompanied by the stereotypical “But Covid concerns remain”. It’s like clockwork. Mass paranoia, actually more akin to a society wide mental illness.

All you need is one germaphobe to ruin a good thing. One paranoid person is given a soapbox to cry about how it’s “Oh so dangerous and irresponsible because of the……………….gasp…………sob..………..Delta variant!”

Oh noes!!! We all gonna die!!!!!! Oh NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is Pedestrian:

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Get out, you snerks!

This constant harping on lockdowns is laughable. We never had them. All the way through this pandemic...I've never been "locked down". What makes you think there's a threat of something that's never happened to begin with.

The Science (Fauci) said no new lockdowns, but he did say there will be many more mandates....and one would expect Canada to follow. Y'all got more vaccinated than us as a % anyway, so what are you worried about?

Ok, "bothered".

They were "bothered" by the virus...see how all of you are actually experiencing the same thing? I say the virus is dangerous...so who is the forum to believe? I can ante up and say that the variant is even more dangerous, and I would know since my area is going through a surge. No mask requirements though....although I wore one yesterday for the smoke. MASKING OUTSIDE.
Our rates increased after the delta variant fear porn by the MSM (good job!), but we are still behind the country that really follows the science. You guys have bragging rights and I suggest you use it before our mandates bring up the percentages. They are not idiots if they can actually explain why they don't want the vaccine, but it's too late now.

^^You're Canadian. You apparently live on an island. As long as you stay there, it's mostly a problem for your fellow islanders. Someday I suspect they won't thank you for being unvaccinated and you may wish you had been but it hardly matters to most of us.

Shit, load of

I hiked my ass off during covid. I'm in the best shape of my life probably

I don't plan on going back to being in worse shape, barring some future circumstances. Fuck being in bad condition if you can help it.

The virus is dangerous and the variant is worse.
They have to explain it and be honest though, and I want to see some kinda timeline. If they happen to have other vaccinations but not COVID? Nah.
You gotta deal with the Canadians on your own, but for the Americans we are coming around to accepting the unvaccinated as "the other". That means the rights of this group are considered less than the rights of the majority. I know it's messed up, but that's just how things work. Canada might be over 90% vaccinated so you're gonna be able to slip through the cracks, IMO.

Yeah, I could probably take meetings from my fitness room if I wanted to, and lift weights on demand. No more skipping certain workouts because I ran out of time waiting for douche bros to finish firing off their texts or scrolling through their IG feed at the squat rack, or should I say, the texting rack.

You know what else Tyson did after he got out of the joint? Bit off someone's ear and got a face tattoo...

Make sure you are wearing pants unlike a few now-famous incidents.

To literally use your same language and line of argumentation--because turnabout is fair play--"All you did was assert that the 600K+ dead Americans would be dead by now anyway. An assertion is not proof. So where's the proof?"

^ Over 600,000 people died of COVID within a year just in the US

It is estimated that 1 million people in India died of COVID

That information is readily available, I don't need to provide you any links.

You need to put to rest this lie that COVID isn't dangerous. You're acting like this is a make believe fantasy, but it isn't.

I will agree with you that for vaccinated people, COVID is not more dangerous than other viruses that we live with (unless you are a crazy germaphobe like Pedestrian), but pre-vaccine COVID was definitely worse than Influenza.

Was in Boystown this past weekend for Market Days - Bars had lines out of them the entire time, and inside was packed. All places required proof of vaccinations too. Overall, felt pretty normal to me.

It was a beautiful thing.

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Just in case people need to be reminded...

Nice, I'm perfectly fine with private businesses saying "show me your vaccine card" prior to admitting people

In the under 50 age group,
There have been 29,249 Covid deaths out of 497,036 total deaths over the same period of time.



Ages 0-17, 349 total Covid deaths out of 51,892 total deaths in the age group.

Ridiculous. You are merely pointing to the same data the rest of us see and declaring that your controversial conclusion--absent any supporting premises whatsoever--is somehow proven true. That is not how any of this works in the real world.

I argue with the Left, I argue with the Right

It's the same idiocy. You just think that repeating something over and over makes you correct

:koko: Enjoy your lunacy

My dad has an anti-vaxxer working for him, he just got a text that she is in the emergency room with COVID. He and my mom have plane tickets to visit my sister and her family in Europe in two weeks (they haven't seen my niece and nephew in almost two years...)

Here's hoping Pfizer holds up... would be pretty pissed for them if this woman's selfishness cost them the trip.

Best place for her. And depending on where she lives, she may be there a while because hospitals are running out of inpatient beds and keeping people in ERs for days now.

I wonder if this mobile vaccine is being implemented to other countries. Watching the news globally, most of the people are going in a certain vaccination site. There's also a long que and will even take them about 4 hours before getting vaccinated.

Well, my parents flew into Chicago this weekend, first time seeing them in almost 2 years (last time was Thanksiving 2019--I went to Pole for the winter holidays that year and then COVID happened). Life in Chicago is normal enough that we had enough to do (though we did avoid eating inside and wore masks indoors everywhere). My zip code appears to be ~97% vaccinated, but most people on the street don't live here.

AMnd today Canada opened its borders to vaccinated Americans, so we rented a car and drove to Hamilton to meet up with my sister who lives in Montreal and had a baby about 8 weeks ago, who we finally got to meet. It was a bit dramatic getting the COVID test results before the border crossing (the test has to be within 72 hours... but it was actually kind of hard to find a test appointment that wasn't too inconvient, and then they didn't send us the results until like 2 hours before we reached Port Huron which was a bit stressful).

Regarding testing, I recently needed a test after I was informed I had been exposed during a hospital visit and I found them much harder to get now than 6 months ago or last year. A lot of test sites have closed for lack of demand because people who are vaccinated aren’t running off to get a test at every sniffle.

In order to be prepared if I ever needed a test in the future, I found my neighborhood CVS now selling do-it-yourself antigen test kits made by Abbot Labs for, as I recall, about $23 for 2 tests and I bought 2 kits (enough for 4 tests). I assume these home tests wouldn’t work for an official purpose like border crossing but it’ll be nice to just be able to test myself if I ever get flu-like symptoms or find out about an exposure in the future. No need to search the internet for a convenient testing site or take the time to go get in line. And you get your result in 15 minutes.

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According to national news shows tonight Austin had 6 available ICU beds in the city.

In a related matter, I saw one forecast tonight that if conditions in Florida don't improve in the next 6 days, which everyone agrees is unlikely, the state's hospital systems will "collapse". Seems a little dramatic but they are clearly having it hard and I've guessed the delta wave won't likely peak until mid to late August as far as hospitalizations go (this is not just my idea but consistent with what Scott Gottlieb and other independent "experts" who show up on TV news a lot are also saying).

What does that even mean? Waiting lists go up to not quite normal NHS England times?

Just prioritise anyone else in critical or serious condition over unvaccinated Covid patients. Get to them when and if you get to them. Easiest triage ever.

Masks are being reinstated at my job as of today. They never went away at my husband's job, and we both work in medical clinics. I've noticed a slow, but steady rise in the number of patients wearing them, and they've started to appear on the faces of shoppers at various stores whereas before, only the workers were wearing them.

I guess this means I should trim my beard for a better fit.

Masks never stopped being mandated at my job

I still don’t wear a mask at indoor establishments because, well, it’s a public health measure and let the unvaccinated idiots get Covid, I don’t care.

My 12 year old got his first Pfizer shot yesterday

Playing around with some maps. Delta spread very very fast with respect to transmission.

Note the dates.

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And as of today.

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My personal preference for facial hair, mask wearing comfort was about 4 days of growth. The face covering gets stuck on the stubble from a 5 o'clock shadow or second day of growth. A full beard is annoying and too hot to have to wear something over it, especially in summer and if you're a hypochondriac, beards + masks do little of anything at preventing a virus from entering or exiting your body.

I'm vaccinated, and I'm wearing a mask because the people who pay my salary are telling me to wear a mask. Unfortunately, I also like to rock a good Czar Nicholas II beard and mustache, which I will need to trim. I put my mask on today and it was like trying to stuff too large a tit into too small a bra cup.

I took one of those at home tests in Greenland before coming back to the US (though since I flew via ANG, nobody checked). You are on camera the whole time which was kinda strange but overall it was easy (except everyone was doing it at the same time and the internet in the NSF dorm couldn't handle that very well). It was silly since I had just gotten off from 5 weeks on the ice with no pax flights in the intervening time so there was no vector for transmission.

We didn't to for it this time since we weren't sure it would be acceptable to Canada.

Delta seems to be getting close to burning itself out where it first became commonplace - in Missouri and Arkansas. In both states the rate of growth began slowing over the last two weeks, and cases seem to have finally peaked. Which suggests most states will experience rapid growth for around 4-6 weeks, at which point cases will subside. Basically because it runs out of unvaccinated hosts who interact with lots of people.

^ I have a rather unique window into what's going on with the unvaccinated, as I speak to many of them.

A good proportion of the population, perhaps 30%, are rigid in their stance and we aren't going to change their minds.

Our best hope for nationwide "community" immunity is to just allow the virus to spread through that population so that they will have immunity as well. They are digging their own grave but hey, not much more that we can do.

I mostly agree, but I really, really wish that vaccines were available for kids right now so I could totally not give a fuck and advocate "letting it rip."

That said, it appears even among children parents being vaccinated alone massively reduces their risk of contracting COVID.

Yes, I agree. As I stated above, my 12 year old had his birthday 3 days ago and we got him his 1st Pfizer shot yesterday.

My other son is only 10, though, and I'm hoping vaccinations become approved for him so that we can get him innoculated.

Once that happens, screw everybody else

Yep.

My 5 and 6 year olds (and their friends) are the only people that I regularly socialize with who haven't gotten vaxxed.

I can't wait til they get their jabs so that I can really not give a fuck about covid anymore.

Yeah, my daughter gets her first jab the day after her birthday on the 23rd. But my son is 7 (about to turn 8), so he has months yet to wait.

This all would have burned itself out by last summer if the world hadn’t freaked out so much. Probably with the same number or fewer aggregate deaths if older people had voluntarily isolated for that much time.

Are you really worried about your 5 and 6 year olds getting Covid? There are a lot of things that I’d be far more worried about.

not really.

as I discussed before with you, i'm desperate to get my kids vaxxed, and all other under-12s, so that the CTU has one less leg to stand on when they start bitching and moaning (they're already fear-mongering over delta, to absolutely no one's surprise).

i NEED my kids in school, everyday, all-day, 5 days a week.

no more remote-learning bullshit.

That’s just stupid, cruel and ignorant like much of what you post. You simultaneously argue this but also that the virus is never going away. If both are true, it would never “burn itself out” to the point anyone unusually vulnerable, which isn’t just older people including most of the world’s political leaders, but anyone who has HIV or cancer or who is overweight etc, would have to hide forever.

Will you ever get over crying for what you think would make your own life better at the expense of anyone you need to toss overboard?

These quotes and commentary are not data. They just send journos with tape recorders until they manage to get a hyperbolic quote and then print it.

I already offered you a solution

Come on over!

You can always live there when you're an empty nester :tup: