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ethereal_reality Feb 2, 2023 6:22 PM

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A wealth of imformation! Thanks for the help with the Goodhue photograph HossC and odinthor. I appreciate it. :)





I could use some help with this photograph as well.... I'm pretty sure we haven't seen it on NLA.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/nH9dd0.jpg
(1950)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/10zsWl.jpg
A. M. Payne




Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hkDB64.jpg
eBay



Help! :whip:
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ethereal_reality Feb 2, 2023 6:41 PM

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Before I put my whip back in the closet here's another mystery photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/5NeApy.jpg
ABESBOOKS


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/LMfGKC.jpg



And my specialty. .a closer look. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/inYpOG.jpg

Wow!...I would have never guessed Brentwood.


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ethereal_reality Feb 2, 2023 7:03 PM

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Is it too much if I post one more mystery location today?

I thought not.



We have seen similiar photographs on NLA but there's a possibility this is a newbie.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/yQtDlZ.jpg
ABESBOOKS







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Rjt7IH.jpg
ABESBOOKS




The reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/k1IkVX.jpg

I forgot who translated the last German language info. I hope I thanked you because I need your help again. :D

That's all I have for today, folks...Enjoy!
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HossC Feb 2, 2023 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9855670)

I could use some help with this photograph as well.... I'm pretty sure we haven't seen it on NLA.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hkDB64.jpg
eBay

Help! :whip:
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The white building on the right is Sears. Here's one of my earlier posts on the area from 2014. The full post with streetcar loop photos is here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6554104)

A couple of days ago I posted a 1940 aerial picture of Lafayette Square. The aerial below shows the area slightly west. This one has "48" in the lower right corner and the Lafayette Square one has "49", so I assume they are part of a set which was taken at the same time. On the far left is the Red Car viaduct over Pico at San Vicente. FredH wrote about the viaduct in post #5381.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icoRimlau1.jpg
USC Digital Library

Just below center, the large white structure is Sears. The picture below is from 1939.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...APicoSears.jpg
USC Digital Library

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The area between Venice and Pico has now been redeveloped. Sears and the streetcar loop have made way for a Lowe's hardware store and a parking structure. There is still a small bus terminal next door. Google's 45 degree views all show the Lowe's building under construction (as do the ones on Bing). Some of the Streetview images and the overhead view (below) do show the new buildings.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icoRimlau7.jpg
Google Maps


Martin Pal Feb 2, 2023 8:39 PM

Translation from E_R's above post:

May 28, 1929

Oil wells as adornment on the streets of Los Angeles, California

An unusual phenomenon are oil towers, which the people of Los Angeles have set up as ornaments in fields and gardens.

Picture shows: A street in which houses are surrounded by oil towers, and these form a strange sight.

odinthor Feb 2, 2023 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9855748)
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Is it too much if I post one more mystery location today?

I thought not.

We have seen similiar photographs on NLA but there's a possibility this is a newbie.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/yQtDlZ.jpg
ABESBOOKS


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Rjt7IH.jpg
ABESBOOKS


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Hmmm, e_r . . . Does that street sign say "Curtis St."?

https://i.postimg.cc/mDPZ8bhh/Curtis-Her-1919-11-28.jpg
LA Herald, 11/28/1919

https://i.postimg.cc/1zty39GM/Curtis-Bekins001.jpg
Bekins map, 1904 edition

Long gone, say you? No, a bit is left:

https://i.postimg.cc/7hv490pQ/Curtis-West-gsv.jpg
gsv

JeffDiego Feb 3, 2023 5:45 PM

Mystery Brentwood (?) Mansion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9855709)
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Before I put my whip back in the closet here's another mystery photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/5NeApy.jpg
ABESBOOKS


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/LMfGKC.jpg



And my specialty. .a closer look. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/inYpOG.jpg

Wow!...I would have never guessed Brentwood.


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A huge hillside mansion in Brentwood in 1903? Seems unlikely & hard to believe, BUT the Sawtelle Veterans Home dated from the 1880's & would not have been too far away from what is now "Brentwood Park." Eagerly awaiting enlightenment.

odinthor Feb 3, 2023 9:30 PM

:previous:

Could it be 1913 rather than 1903?

https://i.postimg.cc/MTh5NHQ9/Brentw...-1913-5-31.jpg
LA Herald, 5/31/1913

:shrug:

JeffDiego Feb 4, 2023 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9856982)
:previous:

Could it be 1913 rather than 1903?

https://i.postimg.cc/MTh5NHQ9/Brentw...-1913-5-31.jpg
LA Herald, 5/31/1913

:shrug:

Fascinating. Very impressive that you found such an obscure item, Odinthor. Thank you. Still, the woman in the photo looks more 1903 than 1913 to me - but I'm not an expert on fashions of that period. I looked up "Regent Square" on a real estate website & it refers to the area bounded by Montana, San Vicente, 17th and 21st Streets in Santa Monica - I don't think there are any prominent hillsides there (I lived in the area - 17th & Margarita - in the 70's.). Still, there is that reference to Tudor architecture and also a King Gillette property in "Brentwood." Hmmm...

Mackerm Feb 4, 2023 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9855709)
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Before I put my whip back in the closet here's another mystery photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/5NeApy.jpg
ABESBOOKS
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AbeBooks
Original Photograph, Image 4 5/8" X 3 1/2". Annotated On Rear With Location, Etc.; The Writer, Paul Borgfeld, Was The Son Of William C. Borgfeld, Who Worked On Construction Of The Residence As A Master Carpenter And Later Became An Architect.
(My current avatar is Borgnine, not Borgfeld.)

Flyingwedge Feb 5, 2023 7:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9855709)
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Before I put my whip back in the closet here's another mystery photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/5NeApy.jpg
ABESBOOKS



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/inYpOG.jpg


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That looks a lot like the home built in 1906-07 by Fredrick Charlesworth Paulin:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...-_1024_pic.jpg


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...le_-_intro.jpg

(Both) December 12, 1920, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LAT_1_of_2.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LAT_2_of_2.jpg

July 15, 1906, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com


Here's an early sketch and description from the February 26, 1907, Los Angeles Times. The house looked a bit different as-built:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._-_drawing.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...escription.jpg

Newspapers.com


Euclid Avenue and Grand Boulevard in Brentwood Park (circled in yellow below) is now I believe Hanover Street and S. Bristol Avenue.
I'd guess the Paulin home was on the NW corner. Here's the area on a 1910 map, with 26th Street running along the left edge and
San Vicente diagonally across the bottom half:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...024_marked.jpg

Santa Monica Public Library


Mr. Paulin died at his Brentwood Park home, age 54, on October 26, 1915.

Lwize Feb 5, 2023 4:56 PM

The above property is curious.

The home that's on the corner that could be similar from Google satellite view was purportedly built in 1958 and renovated in 1990.

It's possible the original home from the turn of the century was simply replaced after 50 years.

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angele...9/home/8180102

:shrug:

ethereal_reality Feb 5, 2023 7:24 PM

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/l9ooJB.jpg
detail / complete photograph, here

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9855975)

Hmmm, e_r. . . Does that street sign say "Curtis St."?


https://i.postimg.cc/1zty39GM/Curtis-Bekins001.jpg
Bekins map, 1904 edition

Excellent discovery, odinthor! :worship:

And thanks for the translation, Martin Paul. . .much appreciated.





Did anyone else notice the giant wrist watch lying on the ground?
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ethereal_reality Feb 5, 2023 7:39 PM

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And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the lady's purse on the corner.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/08R6jC.jpg


What do you think it really is?... :shrug:



Complete photograph, here.
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HossC Feb 5, 2023 8:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9858085)
The above property is curious.

The home that's on the corner that could be similar from Google satellite view was purportedly built in 1958 and renovated in 1990.

It's possible the original home from the turn of the century was simply replaced after 50 years.

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angele...9/home/8180102

:shrug:

Looking at the views on Historic Aerials, the original house on that plot was at the back corner of the plot while the current house is much closer to the road. The change occurs between the 1952 and 1964 images, which ties in with the 1958 build date of the current house.

MartinTurnbull Feb 5, 2023 10:41 PM

The progress of Los Angeles in figures, July 1921
 
For those of you who like their LA facts and figures, I found this on the inside back cover of a "Los Angeles Today" booster booklet from 1921. I've never heard of the expression "Post Office Business" but check out the jump in building permits from 1919 to 1920!

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...-July-1921.jpg

JeffDiego Feb 6, 2023 6:42 AM

Brentwood Tudor Mansion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 9857941)
That looks a lot like the home built in 1906-07 by Fredrick Charlesworth Paulin:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...-_1024_pic.jpg


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...le_-_intro.jpg

(Both) December 12, 1920, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LAT_1_of_2.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LAT_2_of_2.jpg

July 15, 1906, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com


Here's an early sketch and description from the February 26, 1907, Los Angeles Times. The house looked a bit different as-built:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._-_drawing.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...escription.jpg

Newspapers.com


Euclid Avenue and Grand Boulevard in Brentwood Park (circled in yellow below) is now I believe Hanover Street and S. Bristol Avenue.
I'd guess the Paulin home was on the NW corner. Here's the area on a 1910 map, with 26th Street running along the left edge and
San Vicente diagonally across the bottom half:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...024_marked.jpg

Santa Monica Public Library


Mr. Paulin died at his Brentwood Park home, age 54, on October 26, 1915.


You nailed it, FlyingWedge. Thank you! Interesting that streets & residential lots in Brentwood were already so thoroughly planned & laid out by 1910.

transitfan Feb 6, 2023 2:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9855670)
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A wealth of imformation! Thanks for the help with the Goodhue photograph HossC and odinthor. I appreciate it. :)





I could use some help with this photograph as well.... I'm pretty sure we haven't seen it on NLA.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/nH9dd0.jpg
(1950)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/10zsWl.jpg
A. M. Payne




Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hkDB64.jpg
eBay



Help! :whip:
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That is Vineyard Junction of the Pacific Electric. The tracks diverging to the left are for the Venice Short Line, which traveled down Venice Blvd to Venice (duh) and continued on to Santa Monica, IIRC. The tracks heading straight went onto San Vicente Blvd into Beverly Hills, then down Santa Monica Blvd to Santa Monica. What is not shown is the loop for the Los Angeles Railway P line, which was off to the right. This is an approximate modern view

Google Street View

ethereal_reality Feb 7, 2023 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9855784)
:previous: The white building on the right is Sears. Here's one of my earlier posts on the area from 2014. The full post with streetcar loop photos is here.

Thanks, HossC. As always I appreciate your help.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HuIZsH.jpg

I couldn't help but notice that Sears' overflow parking lot is still dirt in this photograph (despite the modern lighting fixture)


Quote:

Originally Posted by transitfan (Post 9858557)
That is Vineyard Junction of the Pacific Electric. The tracks diverging to the left are for the Venice Short Line, which traveled down Venice Blvd to Venice (duh) and continued on to Santa Monica, IIRC. The tracks heading straight went onto San Vicente Blvd into Beverly Hills, then down Santa Monica Blvd to Santa Monica. What is not shown is the loop for the Los Angeles Railway P line, which was off to the right. This is an approximate modern view

Google Street View

Excellent information, transitfan. Thank you. :)

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tovangar2 Feb 7, 2023 4:32 AM

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