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re: Tivoli / New Vienna Buffet / Cineograph
This rare photograph of Court Street was originally found on ebay. [undated]
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/8jUiOf.jpg ebay / no longer listed :previous: "An undated view of 16 Court Street (later 114 Court Street*), here unused as a theater. The photograph shows the south side of Court St. with 114 Court Street at the center. The storefront is something called L.C. Steel's -- 114 and 116 are visible on two of its doors. Upstairs are the "Corona Rooms." Main is down at the left, Spring St. is around the corner to the right." - The building began life October 18, 1890 as the Tivoli Theatre, but the Tivoli didn't last long. By December 1890 it was closed and furniture sold to pay its debts. The Tivoli was operated by the Perry brothers (E.H. and J. H). info from Downtown Los Angeles Theaters New life as the New Vienna Buffet Sometime prior to 1894 the building reopened as the New Vienna Buffet and gained a reputation as a DEN of VICE. We touched on some of the VICE earlier on NLA. link > > >Den of Vice the earlier post includes this photograph of the New Vienna Buffet (middle of pic) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/BXJOpP.jpg detail / complete (colorize) pic here: rCarlton HossC included this section in a panorama here: Panorama In the 1894 city directory shows the site as "restaurant, wines, liquors, amusement hall, F. Kerkow, prop. 10-16 Court." The 'Vienna was listed with the new 114-116 Court St. address in an 1895 Chamber of Commerce members list. 1894 Sanborn Map http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/CCJssO.jpg https://sites.google.com/site/downto...stheatres/Home The Cineograph The building that housed the defunct 'New Vienna Buffet' reopened as the Cineograph in September 1902 with a combination of movies and vaudeville with the movie bill changing daily. It lasted as the Cineograph at least into 1910. 1910 Baist map http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/TNTf6e.jpg http://www.historicmapworks.com/ As far as I know, there are no photographs of the building when it was the Cineograph Theater. I even checked Cinema Treasures. They have it listed...but no photographs :( So get to work sleuths! :) side-note: The original Vienna Buffet was located in the basement of a new building at Main and Requena St. as reported in the January 25, 1888 Los Angeles Herald. (Requena St. was later renamed Market St.) :previous: Does anyone know what building was located at Requena & Main in 1888? _ |
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:previous: That would be very cool if it was located in the basement of the Amestoy.
& I had forgotten about the 'Stake Out'. (visible in Hoss' slide :previous:, to the right of the Rexall) We discussed it many moons ago. It was a popular cop hang-out. __ If I remember correctly, the Amestoy was the first building in Los Angeles to have an elevator. |
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:previous: Thanks for your help Paul, but I believe Wig Wag solved the mystery a few years ago.
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Has anyone heard of a Noah's Ark in Venice?
Feb. 25, 1925 http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/WPntQR.jpg Jericl Cat flickr http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...922/guqxn4.jpg I'm surprised I've never heard of it before. __ |
New Vienna Buffet on Court Street
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Hey, I really like that ebay pic of Court Street, e_r. I don't think I've ever seen a shot of that block from that angle. Here's an ad for the New Vienna Buffet when it was on Court Street, c. 1894: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.png~original GPF.2725 at Seaver Center This is a close-up from the ad; the mezzanine ceiling looks a bit low: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...4.jpg~original |
:previous: That's great....I ever thought I'd get to see inside. Thanks so much FW.
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/CCJssO.jpg Notice there was another one, albeit shorter, on the opposite wall. _ |
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I recently found a minor but unexpected connection to Noirish LA.
In the course of doing some family history work, I tracked down a bunch of first cousins of my grandmother. Among these was a Frank Cox, for whom I found a 1944 California death certificate at Ancestry.com. The death happened in Los Angeles County, so I checked the LA Times hoping for an obituary. No luck. Instead I found this: http://i.imgur.com/u1yhxjE.jpg LAT 8/27/44 Things did not turn out well: http://i.imgur.com/HClHyHe.jpg LAT 9/7/44 http://i.imgur.com/gxzdUoI.jpg LA EH&E 9/8/44 http://i.imgur.com/ub3avg5.jpg LA DN 9/9/44 http://i.imgur.com/vA3ELzd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/e5NfClx.jpg LA Ex 9/9/44 The location of the murder was 339 S. Figueroa, the Hotel La Tosca (not 3395 S. Fig as the the Evening Herald and Express had it). Totally appropriate name for a stabbing venue, I'd say. The owner of the hotel evidently had enough pull to keep its name out of the papers. Here is a view of the Hotel La Tosca. We are looking north, the intersection at the bottom is Figueroa and 4th. The hotel was demolished in the 60s. http://i.imgur.com/LEwoO9j.jpg USC Digital Library And another, with reverse-color signage was posted by Godzilla back on page 1443. http://i.imgur.com/3E7PwAL.jpg My grandma was a very genteel Nashvillean, and I can't imagine her talking about her unfortunate cousin in polite company and certainly I never heard this story from family. |
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Chester Place Apartments, 2141 Estrella
This building is on the NW corner of Estrella and 23rd Street, just across from the north entrance to Chester Place.
It was built in 1912; the building permit is dated December 26, 1911, with the architect F. A. Noyes, Jr. Here's the BP listed in the December 31, 1911, Los Angeles Times: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original ProQuest via LAPL September 22, 1912, Los Angeles Times: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original ProQuest via LAPL The Chester Place Apartments is called the Chester Arms in the descriptions of the following undated LAPL photos. The 23rd Street entrance is on the left: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...9.jpg~original 00026768 at LAPL This is the entrance on Estrella: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...g.jpg~original 00026769 at LAPL Here's the living room of one of the units. The electrical outlets seem to be up on the wall, judging from the lamp cords: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...z.jpg~original 00026766 at LAPL This shows a dining room at the Chester Place Apartments (LAPL has two other interior shots, 00026764 and 00026765, but I thought these were the best two). I hope whoever lived here liked wicker furniture: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original 00026767 at LAPL Estrella entrance, August 2016: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original GSV These attractive tiles don't appear to be in the vintage photo: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original August 2016 GSV The 23rd Street entrance also had its portico removed: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...z.jpg~original August 2016 GSV The blurry words are The and rather: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.jpg~original August 2016 GSV |
Thanks for yesterday's follow-up, GW. I had a feeling that you'd know more about the Wilshire Boulevard locations.
------------------ Here's part 2 of Julius Shulman's "Job 4714: Krisel/Shapiro Associates, miscellaneous buildings, 1971". The first building has signs for Blue Shield and 3M Business Products Center. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original The second has a large RCA sign on the roof, and a Remington Rand sign nearer to street level. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original Both from Getty Research Institute The first building is now Royal Plaza at 3407 W 6th Street. Its neighbor to the left can be added to our growing list of light-colored buildings which have recently received a much darker paint job - in this case, dark gray rather than black. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original GSV The second building can be found at 1730 W Olympic Boulevard. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original GSV In the picture above, it looked like there may be a couple of survivors beyond the parking garage on S Burlington Avenue, so I took the Googlemobile to find out. Have we seen these before? The house on the left is 1030 S Burlington Avenue, and the one on the right 1036. The property websites date them at 1923 and 1900 respectively. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original GSV The next two houses, 1046 and 1050 S Burlington Avenue, are both dated at 1900 by the property sites (do they just say 1900 when they don't know?). 1046 (left) looks distinctly more original than 1050. Pictures at redfin.com show the inside of 1050 almost completely gutted. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original GSV |
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Here's a bit of info: Noah's Ark was designed and built by Leroy Raymond and installed at Venice Pier, California in 1919. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/WzuJ5g.jpg www.cardcow.com Raymond filed a Noah's Ark patent application on May 26, 1920. patent illustration (?) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/5GKcca.jpg http://www.latimes.com/travel/themep...505-story.html Raymond's patent led to numerous Noah's Arks across the country. (and in England) from Clementon Park, N.J. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/H392MC.jpg http://www.gadvoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2340.0 Here's a great photographed of the Noah's Ark at Old Orchard Beach, Maine [c.1956] http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/hWoYqc.jpg http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-noa...-24735834.html ______ I believe there is only one ark still operating. It's located at Kennywood in West Mifflin, PA http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/GyM7M6.jpg https://www.kennywood.com/noahsark note that the drunkard fishing from the deck is missing :previous: His name was Ham at Playland amusement park in N.J.. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/Bp4SL1.jpg detail I wonder if he had a name at Venice's Noah's Ark? _ |
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In the first photo you originally posted, E_R, it says HAM underneath the mannequin. ________________________________________________ I came across this 1970 photo of the Hollywood Bowl I don't recall seeing before. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_uiwmf0PUT14/S6...Theater%20.jpgHollywood Bowl I thought it might be for some specific production, but apparently the Bowl hired someone to help fix the Bowl's acoustic problems and this was the horrendous result. And, of course, then I found out Frank Gehry was responsible. http://www.hollywoodbowl.com/sites/d.../sonotubes.jpgHollywood Bowl The Bowl history page says there was a "public outcry." I don't doubt it. Fortuantely there's also this handy warning guide: Mapped: Every Building in Los Angeles Designed by Frank Gehry https://la.curbed.com/2015/11/30/989...s-projects-map |
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