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Jim in Chicago Dec 23, 2015 6:21 PM

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Originally Posted by UChicagoLand (Post 7278169)
Bigger than I expected. Not sure I like the coloring. Would prefer something closer to the Logan Center exterior material. Glad to see the Mott Building doesn't appear in the renderings, which I hope means it will be demolished. That and the Computation Center need to go.

I'm pretty sure that at one point Mott was scheduled to come down. To call it "Undistinguished" is giving it more credit that it deserves, and it has been neglected for years.

sentinel Dec 23, 2015 9:35 PM

It's very Stephen Holl-esque. I like it a lot.

wrab Dec 23, 2015 9:38 PM

^ Oh sweet. Thanks spy guy for posting.

Busy Bee Dec 23, 2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 7279526)
It's very Stephen Holl-esque. I like it a lot.

Was thinking the same thing. I dig it. Caaaaaaannnnnnn yyooooooouuuuu diiiigggggggiiitttt?

UChicagoLand Dec 25, 2015 1:02 AM

In the right context, this building makes sense. But I can't see any way that it references the University of Chicago campus. The 4th photo is more neutral but, alas, bland. Unfortunately I decree that this building is an abomination, second only to the Max Palevsky dorm, and must not be built on campus. Time to start letter writing campaign... Cheers and Merry Christmas!

ChickeNES Dec 25, 2015 9:29 PM

I think this is a rejected proposal from Ronan, as someone pointed out on Facebook that UofC picked Diller Scofidio + Renfro for the design: http://news.uchicago.edu/article/201...benstein-forum

LouisVanDerWright Dec 26, 2015 4:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UChicagoLand (Post 7280448)
In the right context, this building makes sense. But I can't see any way that it references the University of Chicago campus.

Lol, what exactly is it supposed to reference? The gothis architecture of the original buildings? The Robie House? The neighborhood courtyard buildings? The Saarinen law school? Mies' Indian Village buildings? The new Gang dorms and city Hyde park? The Vinoly business school? The White City? Jahns mechanical plants and library? Netsch's library?

This is one of the more rediculous criticisms I've read considering almost nothing in Hyde Park references anything else in the area unless the style is centered on referential design like the Vinoly's nods to Wright across the street. This is one of the most architecturally diverse places on earth and as such there is no such thing as "out of place" here.

It's a shame that apparently we are not getting this design, but are instead getting another dose of NYC architects bringing us brutes a little culture. I mean look at this picture, I don't care if you designed the High Line, you look like the three doucheketeers:

http://news.uchicago.edu/sites/all/f...1.20151005.jpg
UChicago.edu

Looks like Bono and Mick Jagger had kids who take themselves way too seriously.

UChicagoLand Dec 29, 2015 12:47 PM

The new Gang dorms do an excellent job of referencing campus, since you ask.

I completely understand why the university didn't choose the zoo design for the conference center. Kudos. It was in very poor taste and a garish eyesore.

More on Vue53:
https://www.bisnow.com/chicago/news/...truction-53604

UChicagoLand Jan 4, 2016 12:16 AM

UChicago Medicine Planning Major Expansion / Redevelopment of West Campus

An online presentation of UChicago Medicine's master plan shows the University plans to knock down Wyler Children's Hospital and Bernard Mitchell Hospital, add a new 240-bed cancer tower across from the Center for Care and Discovery, expand Comer Children's Hospital into the American School space (while preserving the facade), add a host of new research buildings, expand the new parking garage even further, etc.

https://vimeo.com/77539498

See maps at 2:22 and 2:32.

Specific items include:
1) Phase One: knocking down Wyler Children's Hospital and building a $225 million, nine-story research building
2) knocking down Bernard Mitchell Hospital and replacing it with a nine-story research building
3) knocking down the Peck Pavilion and replacing it with a nine-story research building
4) knocking down Kovler and replacing it with a six-story research building
5) building an 8-story, 240 bed cancer tower diagonal from the Center for Care and Discovery
6) a 5-story expansion of Comer Children's Hospital in the space of the American School building
7) an 8-story medical office tower above the new parking garage and building a new ER (and trauma center?) on the first floor
8) extending the new parking garage further north to fill the whole block
9) replacing the old parking garage on Maryland Avenue with a new mixed-use parking garage
10) a new research building by the current LASR renovation (diagonal from the new Eckhardt Building)

BVictor1 Jan 4, 2016 10:09 PM

I was born at Wyler's. I'm not sure how I feel about this.

Jim in Chicago Jan 5, 2016 1:57 PM

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Originally Posted by UChicagoLand (Post 7286736)
UChicago Medicine Planning Major Expansion / Redevelopment of West Campus

An online presentation of UChicago Medicine's master plan shows the University plans to knock down Wyler Children's Hospital and Bernard Mitchell Hospital, add a new 240-bed cancer tower across from the Center for Care and Discovery, expand Comer Children's Hospital into the American School space (while preserving the facade), add a host of new research buildings, expand the new parking garage even further, etc.

https://vimeo.com/77539498

See maps at 2:22 and 2:32.

Specific items include:
1) Phase One: knocking down Wyler Children's Hospital and building a $225 million, nine-story research building
2) knocking down Bernard Mitchell Hospital and replacing it with a nine-story research building
3) knocking down the Peck Pavilion and replacing it with a nine-story research building
4) knocking down Kovler and replacing it with a six-story research building
5) building an 8-story, 240 bed cancer tower diagonal from the Center for Care and Discovery
6) a 5-story expansion of Comer Children's Hospital in the space of the American School building
7) an 8-story medical office tower above the new parking garage and building a new ER (and trauma center?) on the first floor
8) extending the new parking garage further north to fill the whole block
9) replacing the old parking garage on Maryland Avenue with a new mixed-use parking garage
10) a new research building by the current LASR renovation (diagonal from the new Eckhardt Building)

That presentation is from 2013. A lot can change in 3 years!

UChicagoLand Jan 5, 2016 6:45 PM

Same Dean, same plan.

This a 5 or 10 year plan. If you look back at the previous 10 year plans for the university and the hospital in recent decades, they've basically built everything, or more, that they planned.

Main change would be addition of trauma center--and all the other facilities they have built offsite (south loop, orland park, silver cross, etc.)

The university is big on planning. These things don't just come out of nowhere. This was a huge consultant project and presented publicly at an industry conference with the head of UChicago Medicine's space planning--with approval from hospital management.

The university wants pritzker and the bsd to be in the top 5 nationally--same level as law school and business school--and it is willing to spend to make it happen.

Certain things have to be phased in. First Center for Care and Discovery had to open then other things could begin to fall into place. Wyler has already been vacated for demolition. Mitchell is still in use for a bit; the new ER / trauma center needs to open first before old can be decommissioned, etc.

spyguy Jan 6, 2016 2:02 AM

Kinda cool - new comedy club across from new dorms
 
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2016...mprov-was-born

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1st New Comedy Club on South Side in 50 Years Opens Where Improv Was Born

When a new comedy club opens on Wednesday, Hyde Park’s reputation for seriousness might lose a little weight.

The Revival comedy club has been quietly testing out what South Side sketch comedy would look like at 1160 E. 55th St. since Nov. 20 and is now ready to open its doors.

HeightsRising Jan 10, 2016 8:40 PM

Great renderings, indeed.......but MAN is that building isolated from everything else around it!!

....can't wait to see how it looks in person!

-Mark Self
http://heightscalling.blogspot.com/

ChickeNES Jan 14, 2016 8:55 PM

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New Owner for St. Stephen's, Which Defied Redevelopment for 20 Years
Sam Cholke - January 14, 2016 - DNAInfo
A new developer is taking a crack at redeveloping St. Stephen’s Church, which has defied attempts at revival for nearly 20 years.

John Liu, who is converting the former Shiloh Baptist Church at 4840 S. Dorchester Ave. into 13 townhomes, has also purchased St. Stephen’s, according to documents filed with Cook County.

Liu declined to comment on his plans for the former Church of Christ Scientist at 5640 S. Blackstone Ave. that has sat vacant for more than 20 years.

The project would be the second in Chicago for Liu, a developer who splits his time between projects in the United States and city-scale developments in China.
This bit about the previous owner is crazy.

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Among the complications for the property is a 46-page legal agreement Antoniou made with neighbors that goes into great detail about how many parking spaces would be allowed, what types of materials can be used and other restrictions.
Ugh. Hopefully this is no longer binding, the site is literally two blocks from the 57th Street ME station and IMO needs no parking.


http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160...t-for-20-years

UChicagoLand Jan 18, 2016 12:09 AM

Recently some groups have been calling for Metra to convert to an "L"-like timetable with trains running every 10 or 15 minutes.

http://chi.streetsblog.org/2016/01/1...ike-the-cta-l/

But I have another, crazier idea. In 2013, CTA pulled all the Red lines tracks south of Cermak road and re-built the line all the way to 95t St. in 5 months. Cost: $425 million.

http://www.transitchicago.com/redsouth/

What if they simply pulled the Metra tracks and rebuilt it, as they did with the Redline, to be an actual L train connected with rest of the CTA system?

:)

Hyde Park would finally have an L line and this would help economic and construction development in the neighborhood.

Kumdogmillionaire Jan 18, 2016 1:19 AM

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Originally Posted by UChicagoLand (Post 7302732)
Recently some groups have been calling for Metra to convert to an "L"-like timetable with trains running every 10 or 15 minutes.

http://chi.streetsblog.org/2016/01/1...ike-the-cta-l/

But I have another, crazier idea. In 2013, CTA pulled all the Red lines tracks south of Cermak road and re-built the line all the way to 95t St. in 5 months. Cost: $425 million.

http://www.transitchicago.com/redsouth/

What if they simply pulled the Metra tracks and rebuilt it, as they did with the Redline, to be an actual L train connected with rest of the CTA system?

:)

Hyde Park would finally have an L line and this would help economic and construction development in the neighborhood.


I like this idea actually. Could basically function as a subway/train with stops from Millennium Park, past Hyde Park, and hit places like the Museum Park area, Soldier Field, McCormick Place, 31st Street Beach, etc.

:tup:

VKChaz Jan 19, 2016 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by UChicagoLand (Post 7302732)
What if they simply pulled the Metra tracks and rebuilt it, as they did with the Redline, to be an actual L train connected with rest of the CTA system?

If I understand what you are suggesting, it is something that has been put forward in the past. Do a search using the terms "gray line"
But if money is available, there are no shortage of ideas. For example, perhaps as part of a Green Line reconstruction, a new section could be routed toward McCormick Place

spyguy Jan 20, 2016 7:06 PM

Gordon Parks Art Hall - Lab School Expansion
 
I don't think we have ever gotten a good look at this one. All photos from VDTA:

http://s2.postimg.org/yv7926e89/gpah_image01.jpg
http://s21.postimg.org/5arytz5h3/gpah_image14.jpg
http://s27.postimg.org/4npc5uzgz/gpah_image06.jpg
http://s22.postimg.org/6kt848j29/gpah_image10.jpg
http://s16.postimg.org/oeizlkfwl/gpah_image17.jpg

Jim in Chicago Jan 20, 2016 7:53 PM

Oh man, how is any normal school supposed to compete with this? My high school had an arts trailer. Literally.


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