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LouisVanDerWright May 16, 2015 3:23 AM

^^^ Two more at most. I wouldn't be surprised to see it by 2030. The North side is simply running out of room.

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Originally Posted by pilsenarch (Post 7005394)
clearly you are not an architect...

Apparently neither is Jeanne Gang :shrug:. It's not like aesthetics are the most subjective thing ever or anything...

pilsenarch May 16, 2015 1:17 PM

^ I was referring to having an ability to discuss it objectively... that's the whole point, otherwise we are just talking preferences.... BTW, it's totally fine with me if your favourite color is Gang...

marothisu May 16, 2015 2:53 PM

No matter what you think, a large part of architecture and how people view structures it is completely subjective. There's no right or wrong answer to whether a building looks good or bad. I happened to not like the Prentice Women's building - other people liked it - so what?

rlw777 May 16, 2015 4:07 PM

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Originally Posted by marothisu (Post 7029621)
No matter what you think, a large part of architecture and how people view structures it is completely subjective. There's no right or wrong answer to whether a building looks good or bad. I happened to not like the Prentice Women's building - other people liked it - so what?

Art and architecture are not completely subjective. Criticism cannot exist if there aren't approaches that are more successful than others. In other words while its not as simple as right vs wrong there are answers that are more right or more wrong.

marothisu May 16, 2015 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rlw777 (Post 7029671)
Art and architecture are not completely subjective. Criticism cannot exist if there aren't approaches that are more successful than others. In other words while its not as simple as right vs wrong there are answers that are more right or more wrong.

I'm not talking about materials, ways to construct, etc. That is science - no shit. One can easily argue about using the right or wrong materials, the right or wrong ways to construct a building, the right or wrong angles to serve specific function, etc.

I'm talking specifically about aesthetic. Just because I think a building looks good or like shit does not mean that it is the right or wrong opinion.

Chicago Shawn May 16, 2015 4:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickeNES (Post 7029310)
Right on cue:

http://i.imgur.com/QyciO3zl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QyciO3z.jpg

Looks like Michels Construction, who did the caissons at River Point, will be handling the job here.

:awesome::awesome::awesome:

This deserves the dancing banana! Definitely among my most anticipated construction starts this year, primarily because of the long fight to get to this point. The design is great, but was better before the cantilevers were VE'd out.

spyguy May 16, 2015 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn (Post 7029678)
:awesome::awesome::awesome:

This deserves the dancing banana! Definitely among my most anticipated construction starts this year, primarily because of the long fight to get to this point. The design is great, but was better before the cantilevers were VE'd out.

What do you mean? I believe this is the current design:

http://i62.tinypic.com/34f1s2v.jpg

LouisVanDerWright May 16, 2015 6:22 PM

I think he means that version's recesses and cantilevers are less pronounced than the first iteration of the design. There seems to be a clear bit of VE'ing of those details.

aaron38 May 16, 2015 6:56 PM

It's hard to tell from the map, but is Vue53 going on land that belongs to Nichols Park?
Was that always private land or do I have the wrong lot?

Edit: it's on the north side of 53rd. I though it was on the south side, which is park.

the urban politician May 16, 2015 7:15 PM

^ I think it was once a gas station, right?

Chicago Shawn May 16, 2015 8:03 PM

^Mobil Gas Station and a car wash, plus an empty lot which used to be a McDonald's.

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7029790)
I think he means that version's recesses and cantilevers are less pronounced than the first iteration of the design. There seems to be a clear bit of VE'ing of those details.

Yes, that is what i was referring too.

sentinel May 16, 2015 8:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spyguy (Post 7029785)
What do you mean? I believe this is the current design:

http://i62.tinypic.com/34f1s2v.jpg

I love the way the final rendering looks, wasn't really a fan of the earlier iteration.

BVictor1 May 17, 2015 3:12 AM

A little birdie to me not to count Solstice out of the game and that it "is shining, in its original sunny shaded design." That's all I know... That's all I know.

the urban politician May 17, 2015 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7030093)
A little birdie to me not to count Solstice out of the game and that it "is shining, in its original sunny shaded design." That's all I know... That's all I know.

^ Interesting, although Solstice has "not been out of the game" for about 7 or 8 years now. It's one of those things where I'll believe it when I see it...

sentinel May 17, 2015 4:01 PM

In BVic I Trust - he's always been pretty spot on before. Plus, Hyde Park is smoking hot right now and I'm certain it's ripe for additional development news in the future. I personally can't wait to sell my place and get the hell outta Lakeview - Chicago is still my number 1 choice of cities, and with that, I'm only planning on Hyde park as my next hood.

LouisVanDerWright May 17, 2015 4:34 PM

Yeah, Hyde Park has been pretty incredible lately, it seems to be the only neighborhood outside of downtown with significant numbers of large, highrise, new construction projects going on.

the urban politician May 17, 2015 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7030324)
Yeah, Hyde Park has been pretty incredible lately, it seems to be the only neighborhood outside of downtown with significant numbers of large, highrise, new construction projects going on.

Well there certainly has been pent up demand. During the last boom, I don't believe a single highrise was built in Hyde Park (outside of the University). Remarkable that that was even possible, if you ask me. Must've been the NIMBYs

SamInTheLoop May 18, 2015 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7029354)
Hell yes!

How many real estate cycles until there is continuous development between the S Loop and Hyde Park? Sam wanna take crack at it?

As few as 2 to as many as 4??......


And,

:cheers:

to Vue53's groundbreaking!!

the urban politician May 18, 2015 5:09 PM

^ 4 real estate cycles? Bloody hell, mate! I'll be an old man

brian_b May 19, 2015 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7031053)
^ 4 real estate cycles? Bloody hell, mate! I'll be an old man

It wont be that long. U of C is offering employee down payment assistance all the way up to I-55. There's a field house under construction at Ellis Park at 35th. A new pedestrian bridge also on 35th. Drive around the Kenwood historic district and you see evidence of a lot of interior renovations on the old mansions. A new Marianos on 39th. Infill here and there.

Lake Meadows and Michael Reese are the big questions and will probably be the final push.

Perceptions of safety are changing. I see women jogging alone on 31st street every day. Northsiders will be the last to know.

Jim in Chicago May 19, 2015 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brian_b (Post 7032134)
It wont be that long. U of C is offering employee down payment assistance all the way up to I-55. There's a field house under construction at Ellis Park at 35th. A new pedestrian bridge also on 35th. Drive around the Kenwood historic district and you see evidence of a lot of interior renovations on the old mansions. A new Marianos on 39th. Infill here and there.

Lake Meadows and Michael Reese are the big questions and will probably be the final push.

Perceptions of safety are changing. I see women jogging alone on 31st street every day. Northsiders will be the last to know.

And there's no shortage of people biking down King Drive all the way to Hyde Park. The development is certainly in pockets but progress seems steady.

Ryanrule May 19, 2015 8:14 PM

all that needs to happen is chinatown pushes east to the lake.

ChickeNES May 29, 2015 12:06 AM

City Hyde Park is T/O! :cheers:

http://i.imgur.com/rHAQo4gl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rHAQo4g.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8lRT9h7l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8lRT9h7.jpg

Looks like they are planning to be finished by November: http://i.imgur.com/X8F8T1h.jpg

Ryanrule May 29, 2015 12:28 AM

that could use 4x the height added on.

Vlajos May 29, 2015 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryanrule (Post 7043062)
that could use 4x the height added on.

I'd be happy with 2x.

sentinel May 29, 2015 4:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickeNES (Post 7043044)

This looks fantastic, thanks!

I have absolutely no problem with the height of this; if it was 2-4x taller, it may lose it's architectural uniqueness and start to resemble something like the massive New York building in Lakeview.

Plus, how is no one discussing the amazing and uninterrupted floor-to-ceiling glass?? It's pretty common nowadays, but the layout/design looks great here. The north views towards DT must be incredible.

rlw777 May 29, 2015 7:46 PM

I love the simple functionality and visual rhythm of that interlocking concrete. Especially on those angles. I imagine it provides a level of privacy for one side while opening up the view for other. Has anyone seen floor plans for this? I'm wondering if that was taken advantage of in the unit layouts.

BVictor1 Jun 2, 2015 7:21 AM

North Campus Residences

06/01/15
After exiting the Chicago Harbor Locks
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5...D720/ry%3D480/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5...D720/ry%3D480/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5...D720/ry%3D480/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a5...D720/ry%3D480/

SamInTheLoop Jun 2, 2015 3:34 PM

^ Nice! Thanks for these!!

SamInTheLoop Jun 2, 2015 3:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brian_b (Post 7032134)
It wont be that long. U of C is offering employee down payment assistance all the way up to I-55. There's a field house under construction at Ellis Park at 35th. A new pedestrian bridge also on 35th. Drive around the Kenwood historic district and you see evidence of a lot of interior renovations on the old mansions. A new Marianos on 39th. Infill here and there.

Lake Meadows and Michael Reese are the big questions and will probably be the final push.

Perceptions of safety are changing. I see women jogging alone on 31st street every day. Northsiders will be the last to know.


Oh geez - U of C is offering employee down payment assistance all over the near-mid south side.....why didn't you just say so earlier!? So, it will be like 6 months then! :koko:

Guys, it's going to be a long, long work in progress (yet there will indeed be progress!) - but most importantly, do please keep at least your short pants on in the meantime......

stevevance Jun 3, 2015 5:51 AM

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Originally Posted by brian_b (Post 7032134)
Drive around the Kenwood historic district and you see evidence of a lot of interior renovations on the old mansions. A new Marianos on 39th. Infill here and there.

There's a fair amount of renovation going on in the Kenwood landmark district. Some very pricey projects, too. This one's getting new levels for $485,000.

marothisu Jun 3, 2015 3:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stevevance (Post 7048877)
There's a fair amount of renovation going on in the Kenwood landmark district. Some very pricey projects, too. This one's getting new levels for $485,000.

Nice - there's also been a fair amount of new construction homes in Bronzeville the last few years too.

BVictor1 Jun 21, 2015 4:49 AM

Looks like Vue53 is really moving. I noticed the base of the tower crane in place this evening.

UChicagoLand Jul 2, 2015 4:55 PM

New picture and update about City Hyde Park:
http://hpherald.com/2015/06/24/city-...-moving-on-up/

Also, I like this close up view of the front of Vue53, which I hadn't seen before:
http://www.multihousingnews.com/news...004122950.html

ChickeNES Jul 20, 2015 3:29 PM

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New Hotel for 53rd Street To Be Announced by University of Chicago
By Sam Cholke | July 17, 2015 8:11am
The University of Chicago will announce plans for a new hotel to go on a 53rd Street parking lot at a July 28 meeting. Ald. Leslie Hairston (5th) will host a meeting at 6 p.m. July 28 at the Booth School of Business, 5807 S. Woodlawn Ave. to detail plans for the hotel.

The university is describing the project as “boutique hotel” to be built on a 53rd Street parking lot at 1411 E. 53rd St., but is releasing few details ahead of the meeting.

Those briefed on the project said it will feature a restaurant on the ground floor and a patio area on the Dorchester Avenue side of the building.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150...ity-of-chicago

the urban politician Jul 20, 2015 6:27 PM

^. Awesome!

ithakas Jul 20, 2015 6:56 PM

Interested in hearing others' thoughts on this question, particularly those who have seen long-stalled projects revived before.

Should we expect significant redesign/refinement of Studio Gang's design for Solstice on the Park if it is being brought to life?

ardecila Jul 20, 2015 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7101555)
^. Awesome!

Yeah this is really great. It's one of the last "missing teeth" on that stretch of 53rd between the IC tracks and Vue53.

It may be for the best that the U of C is sponsoring all this redevelopment and closing the gap financially on these projects. Often when redevelopment is led by the private sector, the neighborhood has to go through years of gentrification before prices rise enough to allow for significant new construction like this. Wicker Park is seeing significant new midrise construction right now of the TOD variety, plus a new hotel in the Coyote building, but it's definitely pretty gentrified there.

However, 53rd is seeing midrise infill construction like Wicker Park right now, even though the land values aren't nearly at the same level. E.g. a Wicker Park condo off Milwaukee will sell for 50% more per SF than a Hyde Park condo off 53rd. Yes, this new project isn't residential, and neither was Harper Court, but as a statement about land values in the neighborhood I think it holds true.

ChickeNES Jul 21, 2015 3:58 AM

They've started painting the concrete on City Hyde Park, and it looks pretty sweet:
http://i.imgur.com/JhxNksil.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JhxNksi.jpg

I forgot to take a picture, but at the Vue53 site they have roughly a third to half of the first floor columns poured, and it appears they are now setting up the forms for some of the ground floor walls.

On a smaller scale, I noticed that there is a new billboard for a 3 flat condo building right north of the Starbucks at 55th/Woodlawn. I think this was a project that died during the crash and is now being revived. If I get a chance I'll snap a picture of it.

ChickeNES Jul 21, 2015 4:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ithakas (Post 7101592)
Interested in hearing others' thoughts on this question, particularly those who have seen long-stalled projects revived before.

Should we expect significant redesign/refinement of Studio Gang's design for Solstice on the Park if it is being brought to life?

I would guess at least some, since current rumblings suggest that it will either be partially or fully hotel. The strangest thing is that there was a new billboard for it a few months back that I saw in passing, but when I went to take a picture it had been removed...

Jim in Chicago Jul 21, 2015 2:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickeNES (Post 7102108)
I would guess at least some, since current rumblings suggest that it will either be partially or fully hotel. The strangest thing is that there was a new billboard for it a few months back that I saw in passing, but when I went to take a picture it had been removed...

Not if the NIMBYs who blocked the hotel on Stony Island have anything to say about it.

the urban politician Jul 21, 2015 7:53 PM

^ The NIMBYs will not manage to block a hotel.

The only way the NIMBYs were able to do so at Stoney Island is by voting their district dry. They even stepped over the Alderman.

They won't do the same thing here.

ChickeNES Aug 4, 2015 7:17 PM

City Hyde Park yesterday:

http://i.imgur.com/avKS1whl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/avKS1wh.jpg

I also noticed that the facade panels are starting to go up on the new Gang designed UofC dorm, haven't had a chance to snap a picture yet.

LouisVanDerWright Aug 4, 2015 8:36 PM

^^^ How do those panels look? I'm really curious about that because the materials used will entirely determine how well this one turns out.

ChickeNES Aug 10, 2015 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7118092)
^^^ How do those panels look? I'm really curious about that because the materials used will entirely determine how well this one turns out.

Finally made it down there this weekend:

http://i.imgur.com/FiNMC1Rl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FiNMC1R.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zsGpBrMl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zsGpBrM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dRnjha8l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dRnjha8.jpg

I think it looks pretty sick, and will look even better once the gaps between panels have been filled.

LouisVanDerWright Aug 10, 2015 3:44 PM

Oh wow, it's impressive they were able to use facade sections that large, that's one way to eliminate unsightly precast seams...

Kenmore Aug 10, 2015 3:49 PM

looks great

sentinel Aug 10, 2015 3:52 PM

Indeed, this is one of my favorite projects currently under construction. Thanks for the photos.

UChicagoLand Aug 17, 2015 10:15 PM

Video about Vue53:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HCDX_eLQVM

And article about boutique hotel:
http://hpherald.com/2015/08/05/bouti...r-53rd-street/

UChicagoLand Aug 20, 2015 4:05 AM

Please post some pics of:
1) Vue53
2) La Quinta Hotel Renovation
3) More pics of new dorm
4) New Hospital Garage at 57th and Maryland
Thank you from California!


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