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CaliNative Jun 14, 2022 7:07 AM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9647445)
Found this "then and now" pic on Pinterest of the 500 block of Ceres Avenue looking to where it intersects Central:

https://i.postimg.cc/brzB28QK/ceres-Pint-500s-NCent.jpg
Pinterest

:previous:
Two pictures worth a 1000 words

The old photo directly above looks like it was taken in San Francisco. The new photo, at top in the same location, maybe Bakersfield, a bad section at that. While parts of Los Angeles have improved, many sections have retrogressed. It is now difficult to say for sure that our urban fabric, overall, is better than in old "noirish" days. Human behavior, manners, courtesy and dress have in fact gotten courser, less civilized, as has the number of people living and dying on our streets, and our crass indifference to these lost souls as we look the other way.

Is it possible that peak civilization and civility is behind us, not only in Los Angeles, but most places around the world (Ukraine and the mass shootings being the most shocking and egregious examples)? Civilization is marked by the following of basic rules and some predictability in behavior and human interactions. Usually these rules are based on reciprocity, the "golden rule" of treating others as you would want to be be treated. Now we have behavioral anarchy and unpredictability, and less or no trust in people we don't know.

Can we all somehow return to civility and kindness in our individual interactions and ultimately international relations? It is a decision we all can make, and count on others to "pay it forward". Of couse evil exists, and must be confronted. I am not particularly religious, nor am not a church member, but I believe in reciprocity, in pay it forward. I gave a sad elderly homeless woman sitting on a sidewalk by her cart $10 today, and you should have seen her smile at a basic kindness. Her smile was worth the $10, the price of a latte, and I felt good all day. I told her to pay it forward. She promised she would, and maybe she will, or at least tell her friends what some stranger did for her.

We cannot change society, and all those we help may not help others, but we can change ourselves, and if enough of us do, maybe these ripples of kindness we will return us to civility bit by bit. If you can't afford spare change or a few bills for a person in need, at least smile or nod and say "good morning" to a stranger you pass on the street. Offer an elderly person your seat on the train. Little things, multiplied by the millions, may bend us back towards civility :wiseman:

MichaelRyerson Jun 14, 2022 2:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9649048)
:previous:
Two pictures worth a 1000 words

...Can we all somehow return to civility and kindness in our individual interactions and ultimately international relations? It is a decision we all can make, and count on others to "pay it forward". Of course evil exists, and must be confronted...

We cannot change society, and all those we help may not help others, but we can change ourselves, and if enough of us do, maybe these ripples of kindness we will return us to civility bit by bit... :wiseman:

Little to argue with here. And always good to be reminded of our individual and collective responsibilities. I shall try harder. Thanks. MR

May I also recommend 'This is Water' by David Foster Wallace? I keep a copy handy. Better to hear it in his own voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI

Martin Pal Jun 14, 2022 4:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9649016)
.Remember the little boy on his bike?

Well, he just showed up again on eBay. This time, posing with his mother in front of Mike Lyman's Flight Deck at Los Angeles International Airport. (c.1954)

There are two slides.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/baCaYs.jpg
eBay

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Q04aNL.jpg
eBay

I'd love to know where they're going. (or coming from)

This is an attractive family..
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Yay! More Flight Deck photos, and in color! And with NLA's new friends in them, too! Hope more of these two keep appearing around L.A.! I want to see the boy with that jaunty hat on!

Here's a LINK I'd found recently on WorthPoint with five 1959 slides, taken on
the runway, and two of them have Mike Lyman's Flight Deck in the background.

ethereal_reality Jun 14, 2022 9:36 PM

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Here's another original (OOAK) slide currently listed on eBay. . . .and it's a mystery location.


"Los Angeles California Eatons Rancho Sign 1940s 35mm Slide Kodachrome Red Border"


As most of you know there were multiple Eaton's locations - and as you could see in the seller's description - no specific location is given.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/72lgEA.jpg

I initially thought this might be a Culver City location because. . .um. . .I thought that was a munchkin at the bottom deciding where to eat lunch.















In particular, this guy.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/TYXZuz.jpg
.....MGM
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HossC Jun 14, 2022 10:14 PM

:previous:

Could this be it? It was posted as a follow-up to one of my Julius Shulman posts back in 2015 which shows a more modern building.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7209635)

I was looking for additional photographs of it when I came across this.(see below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/zmY4Ai.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...8bc30ae853.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...907/6kLObt.jpg
matchbook detail / ebay

So am I correct in saying the "modern" mid-century Eaton's replaced this location? 12010 Ventura Blvd. is near Laurel Canyon.


odinthor Jun 14, 2022 10:38 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/CKnkX455/Eatons...aefli-p170.jpg
Book John Wayne Was Here, by Roland Schaefli, p. 170.

https://i.postimg.cc/tCr6gcV7/Eatons-LAT-1949-8-28.jpg
LA Times, 8/28/1949

RudyJK Jun 15, 2022 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9647270)
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Let's briefly return to this photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ZvkL7X.jpg
eBay


:previous: I believe this is the roof garden of the W & J Sloane store at 9560 Wilshire Blvd.


The roof garden appeared in an 1938 issue of Architectural Digest.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/m602sU.jpg

#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/0yM5ug.jpg
archdigest



#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gESj1D.jpg
archdigest




#3
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/zdwfx7.jpg
archdigest

Sorry for the blurriness. I'm not a subscriber so I don't have access to the Architectural Digest Archive.
(I enlarged the photos myself) thus the blurriness.




W & J Sloane was first mentioned a few days ago by Mackerm, HERE



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Thanks for these great photos ER. As someone in the outdoor furniture business, I recognize a showroom when I see it. Photo #2 in particular has that 'showroom sample' quality to it.

A furniture company in Phoenix makes a version of the chair shown in the lead photo called Phoenician. https://amalfiliving.net/phoenician-collection/

The chairs in the foreground of photo #2 are forerunners of ones by Cane-line and Brown Jordan. Umbrellas are being done today by Santa Barbara and TUUCI.

Really a great series! Thanks.

RudyJK Jun 15, 2022 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9649016)
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Remember the little boy on his bike?


Well, he just showed up again on eBay. This time, posing with his mother in front of Mike Lyman's Flight Deck at Los Angeles International Airport. (c.1954)

There are two slides.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/baCaYs.jpg
eBay





https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Q04aNL.jpg
eBay

I'd love to know where they're going. (or coming from)

This is an attractive family.


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She is fabulous and he is quite a dapper young man. Love the second photo with the kid's hands hanging off mom's shoulders in the equally interesting family at the right.

CaliNative Jun 15, 2022 1:18 AM

"The Happy Wanderers"--1996 "California's Gold" Episode

The "Happy Wanderers" filmed in color was the most popular and highly rated travelogue shows in L.A. during the noirish era when early color TVs were selling like hotcakes. It starred Slim Bernard and his wife Henrietta on their travels through California and the west. Slim had a very distinctive laugh as you will hear. Interview with the production staff, Slim's wife and clips from the show with Slim. From "California's Gold" with Huell Howser.

Video Link

CaliNative Jun 15, 2022 7:35 AM

Good Posting Etiquette

Time to remind people, especially new visitors, not to bring down long stacks of photos from the posts you are commenting on. It uses page space, and the pages fill up faster making it less likely people will read or see other new posts before the page advances. I used to do that, but learned it is annoying to other posters, so when I comment now I usually scroll back and eliminate the redundant images from my reply, using the "x" back arrow. Or just highlight in blue, and hit back arrow to do it faster. If I am just commenting on one of the images, I may leave that one in my reply. This way pages stay up longer before they fill up and advance to the next page.

CaliNative Jun 15, 2022 8:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9649016)
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Well, he just showed up again on eBay. This time, posing with his mother in front of Mike Lyman's Flight Deck at Los Angeles International Airport. (c.1954)
I'd love to know where they're going. (or coming from)
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There used to be a restaurant like this at Burbank Airport, which used to be called "Lockheed Airport" because they owned it and had most of their plants nearby. I recall it was on the second floor of the terminal, and had pretty good food, burgers, etc. I was a kid and we lived near the airport in No. Hollywood, so my family would go there sometimes on long summer days when it was still daylight after 7 PM and we'd eat dinner and watch the planes land and take off. It was air conditioned, so was comfortable on hot days in the Valley. Plane watching was still popular in the 1950s and '60s, and airports were exciting. Does anybody remember the name or have images of the Lockheed Airport restaurant? Did the Long Beach airport have a similar restaurant?

John Maddox Roberts Jun 15, 2022 2:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9650120)
There used to be a restaurant like this at Burbank Airport, which used to be called "Lockheed Airport" because they owned it and had most of their plants nearby. I recall it was on the second floor of the terminal, and had pretty good food, burgers, etc. I was a kid and we lived near the airport in No. Hollywood, so my family would go there sometimes on long summer days when it was still daylight after 7 PM and we'd eat dinner and watch the planes land and take off. It was air conditioned, so was comfortable on hot days in the Valley. Plane watching was still popular in the 1950s and '60s, and airports were exciting. Does anybody remember the name or have images of the Lockheed Airport restaurant? Did the Long Beach airport have a similar restaurant?


The (much smaller) Santa Barbara airport had a similar upstairs restaurant/bar.

John Maddox Roberts Jun 15, 2022 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RudyJK (Post 9649955)
She is fabulous and he is quite a dapper young man. Love the second photo with the kid's hands hanging off mom's shoulders in the equally interesting family at the right.

The family on the right is a veritable statement of the time. One on her back, leading a second by the hand and a third on the way. This was the most common of sights in those early Baby Boom days. Southern CA wasn't about retirees. It was all about young couples producing little Boomers like me and the boy in these photos.

Mackerm Jun 15, 2022 3:22 PM

There was some discussion of the Burbank airport's Sky Room on pages 2767-2768.

Martin Turnbull's page has some more pictures.

Martin Pal Jun 15, 2022 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9649735)
.I initially thought this might be a Culver City location because. . .um. . .I thought that was a munchkin at bottom deciding where to eat lunch.

In particular, this guy.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/2...922/TYXZuz.jpgMGM.
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You crack me up, E_R; love it!

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9649824)
https://i.postimg.cc/CKnkX455/Eatons...aefli-p170.jpg
Book John Wayne Was Here, by Roland Schaefli, p. 170.
_________________________________________________________________

I can attest to the McDonald's at that location. It was right at Radford Ave. which t-bones Ventura Blvd. there. McDonald's address was listed as 11970 Ventura Blvd, Studio City, CA 91604. (Any addresses of buildings there and nearby could vary over the years, because buildings were built behind the street facing businesses over time, but with Ventura Blvd. addresses.)

This particular McDonald's had an homage themed interior spotlighting western moviemaking which was to honor Republic Studios down the street, I'd imagine. The decor was western and had props, including old-style movie cameras. At some point the McDonald's restaurants with themes in L.A. have pretty much disappeared. All the extra trimmings removed or revamped, like the one on Vine Street near Sunset Blvd. that was an homage to Casablanca, complete with an upright piano that visitors could play if they wanted to.

Looking on GSV, that Studio City McDonald's was there in November, 2016, but gone by February of 2017, so it lasted 40 years. It appears to have been remodeled and opened as the Mendocino Farms Sandwich Market.

The nearby Du-Par's Restuarant, 12036 Ventura Blvd. closed Jan. 1, 2018 after being at that location for 70 years. According to L.A. Eater at the time: The Du-Par’s team remains adamant that they will be back in Studio City at some point, with a whole new location, but so far they don’t have a line on exactly when or where that will take place. Reached for comment, one worker said that the restaurant certainly wasn’t closing “for lack of customers or bad food,” but rather a stalled lease renegotiation. A year later this location was occupied by Sephora.

This Studio City Du-Par's was the very first place I ate on the day I arrived in Los Angeles, April 1st...back in the day! :)

HossC Jun 15, 2022 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9650118)

Good Posting Etiquette

Time to remind people, especially new visitors, not to bring down long stacks of photos from the posts you are commenting on. It uses page space, and the pages fill up faster making it less likely people will read or see other new posts before the page advances. I used to do that, but learned it is annoying to other posters, so when I comment now I usually scroll back and eliminate the redundant images from my reply, using the "x" back arrow. Or just highlight in blue, and hit back arrow to do it faster. If I am just commenting on one of the images, I may leave that one in my reply. This way pages stay up longer before they fill up and advance to the next page.

I thoroughly agree about removing superfluous images from quoted posts as it just means more scrolling and it's not always easy to see which image the reply is about, but each page is limited to 20 posts (unless you've changed your forum settings), so the extra images don't change when the next page is reached.

When deleting unwanted parts of quotes, please be careful to leave the line at the top that starts QUOTE= and the one at the bottom that ends /QUOTE (and their square brackets). This will provide a link back to the original post. I've seen the formatting of many posts screwed up by a missing square bracket, and I've given up letting people know how to fix them as no one bothered! Feel free to PM me if you want further tips.

For those new to the forum, if you're commenting on the post directly above, most times the previous (:previous:) arrows are good enough to show what you're reacting to (just type : previous : without the spaces).

badrunner Jun 15, 2022 8:05 PM

I love those matched-up "then and now" images. Here's Broadway 1959 vs 2019:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IVOHP30ST...alace-1959.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/C11P2cQ1/broadway2019.png

https://losangelestheatres.blogspot....ior-views.html
https://youtu.be/lTvYjERVAnY?t=927

odinthor Jun 15, 2022 8:13 PM

I just want to add for new or infrequent posters, we welcome and appreciate your postings; and because all of us were new once, we all understand how it can take time to learn our ways. Don't feel intimidated or put off in the meantime--we value your contributions to the thread.

:cheers:

CaliNative Jun 15, 2022 10:53 PM

Delete

CaliNative Jun 15, 2022 10:59 PM

:previous:
Good advice Hoss & Odinthor. I didn't realize that all pages flip at 20 posts no matter how many pics there are, although the superfluous and redundant photos/text can be annoying. The "previous" use is essential to posters. Like Odinthor says, new posters are welcome to keep a blog fresh and we'll be tolerant as they learn. It took me long enough. I think you two gave me pointers on occasion :cheers:


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