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unihikid Jun 21, 2022 4:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 9655105)
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Thanks, HossC! That blog entry is a nice find!

One more frame grab to share now. I recently purchased a couple of new ClassicFlix Blu-rays featuring restored Our Gang shorts from the Hal Roach era. The restoration work on the discs is superb. Here's a frame from a 1933 short called "The Kid from Borneo."



That's young George "Spanky" McFarland running across a vacant lot with a familiar landmark visible in the hills.

I'm pretty sure that's Baldwin Hills and the Heinz 57 logo helps. There's a guy on YouTube who i subscribe to that does then and now shots of "Our Gang". Most of the filming was done in Culver City (home of Hal Roach Studios) , and you can tell HR loved filming on certain streets (Woodbine, Motor and Mentone) for all of his films. It's great to see the area before the freeway and development.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYjdz6CUnoA
Chris Bungo Studios

ethereal_reality Jun 21, 2022 6:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 9654471)
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LA Art News, February 2018, p3.


Not sure I agree exactly with LA Art News's placement. The 1927 Baist map shows Ave. 61 continuing south of Figueroa, offset to the east from the portion north of Figueroa. You can see the old pavement just east of the Smart & Final parking lot, partly obliterated by the Gold line tracks. Then again, it makes sense that Ave. 61 could have continued in line with the portion North of Figueroa in the distant past. But this taught dopey me that Pasadena Avenue was renamed.

I've tried to find the area on the Sanborn map but the way the pages of the map are listed numerically makes it's nearly impossible to find a specific area. Is there a way to 'search' within the Sanborn map? I've always been frustrated by this.

Library of Congress


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Originally Posted by Engineeral (Post 9654695)
The tool with the cogs and wheels is a "rolling mill" used to turn metal strips to the diameter of carriage wheel tires and hub bands before welding and shrinking on to the wheels or hubs.

Thanks, Engineeral. :) I appreciate the information.



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Mackerm Jun 21, 2022 7:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9655591)
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I've tried to find the area on the Sanborn map but the way the pages of the map are listed numerically makes it's nearly impossible to find a specific area. Is there a way to 'search' within the Sanborn map? I've always been frustrated by this.

Here's the index page for the Baist real estate atlas. Better: go to DavidRumsey.com and search for Baist. On my last one, I went to HistoricAerials, and noticed that the Baist maps are now shown there.

Martin Pal Jun 21, 2022 8:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 9654924)
I happened to see a 1940 Looney Tunes short on TV recently, "You Ought to Be in Pictures." Very inventive mix of live action and animation. There's a fascinating shot of Porky Pig careening down a street in what I assume is Hollywood. Several business signs on the right are legible.

https://i.postimg.cc/hv9FGfXf/PPIG-077.jpg
source: MeTV broadcast
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On the blog post link that HossC found, the person attributes this location as: "Mark C. Bloome was near Sunset and Wilcox."

https://64.media.tumblr.com/fbba9836...natdo1_500.jpg

I wasn't sure that was correct. The photo above of Mark C. Bloome on Sunset seen a few times here and there on NLA is at 6210 Sunset Blvd. which is at Sunset and El Centro, directly east of Earl Carroll's nightclub and across the street from the Palladium. Various places online have this photo dated at either 1942 or 1943.

Sunset Blvd. and Wilcox Avenue would have an address around 6500. So far I can't find any sources of info or photos with a Mark C. Bloome located there myself. The Mark C. Bloome lettering in both the photos is different, however. According to the Water & Power photo site, Marck C. Bloome had "twelve locations by the 1950s." Unlikely there would have been two on Sunset within a couple blocks of each other, especially with Mueller's in between them both. The short was released in May, 1940. I'm guessing the information is incorrect, or Bloome moved the location from Wilcox to El Centro, mostly because Porky Passes Fiedler Field afterwards which was on the other side of El Centro addressed as 6134 Sunset Blvd. (The Tralfaz blog also has this location incorrect as at Sunset & Ivar, which is before Vine St. if you're traveling east.)
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The photo below from Calisphere, shows the 6210 location of Mark C. Bloome with the same lettering. (Calisphere does not have a date for it, listing it from 1933-1943, however it would have to be at least 1938 as both NBC and Earl Carroll's opened that year. (Carroll's Dec. 26, 1938.)

https://calisphere.org/crop/999x999/...1aaadcaaed2e2d

On NoirCityDame's J.H. Graham site, she has a whole article about the Fiedler Fields and Fiedler himself, from about 18 months ago. Quite interesting.
Lots of info and photos.

6134 Sunset: Fiedler’s Field
https://jhgraham.com/2020/11/20/6134...iedlers-field/

And, speaking of, look who was playing opening night at Fiedler's Field: Dave's Delicatessan vs. Looney Tunes!

https://jhgrahambooks.files.wordpres...pg?w=615&h=343

Also of interest: Porky Pig in "You Ought to Be in Pictures" was colorized in 1995, with a computer adding color to a new print of the original black and white cartoon.
This preserved the quality of the original animation.

The whole colorized short is not online, but around 2 1/2 minutes are, including this street scene in question. (Starting around 1:00.)

Video Link

HossC Jun 21, 2022 9:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9655747)

On the blog post link that HossC found, the person attributes this location as: "Mark C. Bloome was near Sunset and Wilcox."

https://64.media.tumblr.com/fbba9836...natdo1_500.jpg

I wasn't sure that was correct. The photo above of Mark C. Bloome on Sunset seen a few times here and there on NLA is at 6210 Sunset Blvd. which is at Sunset and El Centro, directly east of Earl Carroll's nightclub and across the street from the Palladium. Various places online have this photo dated at either 1942 or 1943.

Sunset Blvd. and Wilcox Avenue would have an address around 6500. So far I can't find any sources of info or photos with a Mark C. Bloome located there myself. The Mark C. Bloome lettering in both the photos is different, however. According to the Water & Power photo site, Marck C. Bloome had "twelve locations by the 1950s." Unlikely there would have been two on Sunset within a couple blocks of each other, especially with Mueller's in between them both. The short was released in May, 1940. I'm guessing the information is incorrect, or Bloome moved the location from Wilcox to El Centro, mostly because Porky Passes Fiedler Field afterwards which was on the other side of El Centro addressed as 6134 Sunset Blvd. (The Tralfaz blog also has this location incorrect as at Sunset & Ivar, which is before Vine St. if you're traveling east.)

Here's the listing for Mark C Bloome from the 1941 CD:

BLOOME MARK C CO (Mark C Bloome) Gasoline, Tires, Radios, Batteries, Auto Repairing,
6210 Sunset Blvd, 2850 Crenshaw Blvd, 8425 Beverly Blvd. 201 S La Brea Av, 5801 W Pico Blvd.

Flyingwedge Jun 22, 2022 5:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9654242)
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"RARE RPPC JARRETT BLACKSMITH CARRIAGE PASADENA AVE & AVENUE 61 LOS ANGELES"


And here's a slightly closer (and clearer) look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/ZFAlx8.jpg
detail

The Jarrett Brothers were at 6060 Pasadena Avenue in 1907, then apparently moved to 6100 Pasadena Avenue.
I think this photo shows 6100, not 6060.


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._Avenue(1).jpg

March 24, 1907, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


The 1908 LACD is the only one to show Jarrett Bros. at 6100 Pasadena Ave. In 1909 it's Jarrett and Crocker at 6100.

This area does not appear on a Sanborn Map until 1920, by which time 6100 Pasadena Avenue was a vacant lot:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...e_-_marked.jpg

1920 Sanborn Map 1273, Volume 12 @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


Here's a wider view of the Pasadena Avenue/Avenue 61 intersection in 1920, with 6060 Pasadena Ave. marked (6100 was
just across E. Avenue 61, as shown on the first map):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...w_-_marked.jpg

1920 Sanborn Map 1265, Volume 12 @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


With the Sanborn Maps, it's a huge help if you can find the index map (similar to the Baist Index page), which shows the
areas covered in each volume. It can be hard to find the right map; not all Sanborns available online include that index map.

odinthor Jun 22, 2022 1:03 PM

In re: Jarrett...

https://i.postimg.cc/pXnX4SV8/Jarrett-Her-1912-5-23.jpg
LA Herald, 5/23/1912

And here's 6109 Piedmont:

https://i.postimg.cc/1zymg5Gc/Jarrett-6109-Piedmont.jpg
gsv (2007 view; in later views, the house is obscured by plants and/or vehicles)

Noir_Noir Jun 22, 2022 2:59 PM

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Partly seen to the left in the Jarrett's ebay picture, this was Albert Nies' blacksmithing shop.

It was at 6108 Pasadena Avenue, not 6100 as the caption says.


https://i.imgur.com/hZE0Mzn.jpg
Google Books - Highland Park By Charles J. Fisher




He also resided on Piedmont Ave - at 6137.


https://i.imgur.com/kLikhQz.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Highland Park News-Herald & Journal, 25 January 1913


https://i.imgur.com/FvDA5u5.jpg
redfin.com

https://i.imgur.com/DyXYxPM.jpg
redfin.com

https://i.imgur.com/2txXsnD.jpg
redfin.com

odinthor Jun 22, 2022 4:03 PM

It appears that in 1911 blacksmith Jarrett was planning to go east:

https://i.postimg.cc/2yJZ7BkZ/Jarret...-1911-4-30.jpg
LA Herald, 4/30/1911

Here's a 1911 Stevens-Duryea Model AA (though probably Jarrett had an older model):

https://i.postimg.cc/pdYKMTZw/Jarret...ens-duryea.jpg
Classic Driver

I wouldn't mind driving around town in that.

Bristolian Jun 22, 2022 11:46 PM

:previous:

So does 6109 Piedmont still have a garage, err, carriage house? That Stevens would have been way too nice to park on the street.

Flyingwedge Jun 23, 2022 4:48 AM

More Jarrett Bros.
 
There is a December 31, 1907, building permit from the Jarrett Brothers, part of which is shown below, to move a
blacksmith shop from 6060 Pasadena Avenue to 6100 Pasadena Avenue.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...00_Pas_Ave.jpg

LADBS

tovangar2 Jun 23, 2022 9:55 AM

Craftsman apartment buildings
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9637073)
I would guess that an Arts & Craft apartment building is relatively rare.

I believe there is at least another one near the Wilshire District but I don't remember the exact address.

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Do you mean the fine pair facing each other on S Park View at W 10th?:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=41276

ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2022 5:34 PM

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Yes, T2, those are the two apartments I was thinking of. Thanks for the reminder. :)

Your pics. are missing so I'll put up a few of my own.

I'll start with the Baist map from 1910. (I outlined the two apartments)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Dkb2Ma.jpg
baist 1910 via tovanger2


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/KJCYre.jpg


Looking north on Park View from just below 10th.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/TKJxKr.jpg

No. #945 is on the left and was built in 1903. ...No. #958 is on the right and was built in 1909.


They're definitely worth checking out for yourself. .. Go Here


Thanks again T2.
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ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2022 5:52 PM

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This intriguing photograph was recently listed on eBay

As you can see, it's mounted.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/t4O74j.jpg




A closer look so you can read the sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Q6xKcI.jpg
eBay

What in the Sam hell is a "Spizzerinkum"? :shrug:


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ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2022 6:18 PM

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Here's another photograph recently listed on eBay

It's a mystery location.

"Vintage Old 1930's Photo of Cars in Front of Los Angeles Apartment Clock Tower"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/DRYjf7.jpg
eBay





As usual here's my closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/8ZYU35.jpg
eBay



I don't quite understand what's going on here.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/WkpcjD.jpg
detail

An overly starched flag?


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ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2022 6:47 PM

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I'm on a roll folks! :eeekk:

I'm going for broke and post one more photograph for today. (June 22, 2022)

I don't believe we have seen this amazing photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/PNw8kG.jpg

It's astonishing to see this colossal building standing in a nearly empty Burbank.

"Burbank Furniture Manufacturing Company, with about 25 men posing in front of building and railroad tracks in foreground. It was the town's first factory.
After the land boom recession in 1888, the building was abandoned and transients slept in the empty factory. Later the building burned down. The building was located at the Verdugo railroad crossing."

California State University, Northridge


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Mackerm Jun 24, 2022 3:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9657697)
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Here's another photograph recently listed on eBay

It's a mystery location.

"Vintage Old 1930's Photo of Cars in Front of Los Angeles Apartment Clock Tower"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/DRYjf7.jpg
eBay

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It's the Santa Barbara county courthouse. :bash:

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9657697)
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I don't quite understand what's going on here.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/WkpcjD.jpg
detail

An overly starched flag?


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Perhaps a checkered tablecloth folded and draped over the railing, opened by a breeze.

Beaudry Jun 24, 2022 6:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9657697)
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Here's another photograph recently listed on eBay

It's a mystery location.

"Vintage Old 1930's Photo of Cars in Front of Los Angeles Apartment Clock Tower"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/DRYjf7.jpg
eBay


Mackerm beat me to it! That's what it is alright—

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/53/d6...9a7a89292d.jpg

Lwize Jun 25, 2022 2:00 AM

Where have all the blacksmiths gone?

HossC Jun 25, 2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9659479)

Where have all the blacksmiths gone?

Long time passing...


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