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One curiosity I found in the details of the image above was the presence of one of those electric arc light masts in what appears to be the backyard of someone's mansion atop Brooklyn Heights. Whose house was this, I wonder? https://otters.net/img/lanoir/arclig...lynheights.jpg U.S.C. Digital Library Also, if you look down below and just to the left of the light mast, you can see Macy Street's old covered bridge over the Los Angeles River. I could be wrong, but its presence here, I think, makes the date of the photo more likely to be the mid-1880s, rather than the 1890s as stated on the U.S.C site. |
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U.S.C. Digital Library Could it be W.H. Perry's house? Sorry, nevermind, Perry's House still exists and doesn't look like the one in the photo detail. The bridge lasted until 1904: http://boyleheightshistoryblog.blogs...ghts-macy.html |
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Thanks for that! I always wondered exactly how long the covered bridge stood. I still think the photo dates to the mid-to-late 1880s, though. If it were the '90s, the areas in the distance would have been much more built up and filled in than they are as shown. |
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In addition to some fascinating information, that article features a superb stereograph photo of the covered bridge over Old Aliso Road (Macy Street). http://otters.net/img/lanoir/Aliso+S...s+detail+2.jpg Workman and Temple Family Homestead Museum, City of Industry, California. Kind of difficult to see much of little Los Angeles itself at this enlargement, but clearly standing out in the distance can be seen the great sycamore El Alisal. Another fact I didn't know until I read that article was that what we think of as Aliso Street was apparently not the original road that bore the name Aliso. Learn something new every day! |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ightLight1.jpg Detail of picture in USC Digital Library Another entry on the blog posted by tovangar2 is titled The Introduction of Electric Light to Los Angeles and Boyle Heights, Pt. 3. It has various information and newspaper clippings about the first electric light in Boyle Heights in the early 1880s. The address is given as First and Boyle, which is where you'd find the Cummings Block today. The blog post also has an early map of Boyle Heights - this is the original from the Huntington Digital Library. The title is "Map of the Workman Orchard Tract Los Angeles City, Cal.; surveyed in Sept. 1888. / by J.A. Bernal." http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ightLight2.jpg Huntington Digital Library In the top corner, the electric light is clearly marked. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ightLight3.jpg Detail of picture above. |
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I already knew about the mast at First and Boyle, but the one in my photo detail can't be that one. The mast in the original photo is clearly located north of the line of Macy Street; First and Boyle is to the south of Macy, and out of view beyond the right edge of the picture. Even Aliso Street, which is north of First, isn't visible in the photo. Judging by the angle of Macy Street (indicated by the covered bridge), the bluff in the photo is, to my eye, clearly the same one that now rises directly above I-10, northeast of today's Macy St. Viaduct, in old Brooklyn Heights. (The house shown in the drawing of the Boyle Heights light mast doesn't resemble the house in the photo, either.) EDIT: A map from 1884 showing the relative locations of streets named above. The light mast in the photo appears to be in the general area of the "Morris" tract. https://otters.net/img/lanoir/1884laparcelmapdetail.jpg Public domain. |
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Agreed. I got so excited when I found the picture of the light on the old map that I didn't stop to check the angles properly. I also wasn't expecting there to be two electric lights that close together in Brooklyn/Boyle Heights. Here's a detail from an 1877 lithograph looking back towards the Plaza - Pico House is the large white building just left of center. I'm sure some houses have been omitted for clarity, and it's too early for an electric light, but it does show the relief of the area. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original www.bigmapblog.com Skipping on to 1910, I stitched together two Baist maps hoping there may be a clue, but I can't see anything. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original www.historicmapworks.com/www.historicmapworks.com |
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I don't know if anyone noticed but there is a second electric arc mast in that same Plaza photograph. It's much more difficult to spot / it's probably twice the distance from the Plaza than the other mast. below: I've circled it in the upper left...the mast JScott discovered is circled on the right. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/Egj3wg.jpg http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/fu.../rv/singleitem Here's the closest I could get to this second tower. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/qAzlYn.jpg http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/fu.../rv/singleitem Anyone know what the large building is just to the right of this tower? It's pretty impressive. ________ BRR, I had forgotten all about the crazy ski jumps. I'm amazed every time I see those precariously built structures. |
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Here are two more slides by the same seller. below: The no frills Universal City stop. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/KBzWxm.jpg http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/...0,0,0&format=0 This one is a bit of a mystery, but the seller mentions "Sana[sic] Anita", Enchandia. etc. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...631/6fwD9F.jpg http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/...0,0,0&format=0 The sellers description is here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Memo...item5b0c6f45e2 __ |
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1930 - The "new" Edison Building takes shape. http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/5659/rec/24 The lamented Engstrom http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 Quaint, conveniently located residence. http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/5659/rec/24 Yes, we've seen this image before (e.g., http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4023 ). This one adds a skosh more detail? http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/5661/rec/40 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 |
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Yes, indeed! Very interesting. Two hitherto undocumented arc lamp masts! Or maybe they were documented. I vaguely recall seeing a list of all the L.A. masts somewhere before, maybe here, but I couldn't find it with a search. So, these two masts might actually be on a list somewhere. A pity my memory isn't good enough to remember where I found it earlier. Quote:
I wondered about that building, too. Actually it looks to me like a complex of two or even three buildings – a white-roofed structure that looks much like a typical schoolhouse, and behind that a much wider and longer dark-roofed structure (or structures). Whatever it is, it was evidently deemed important enough to have its own light mast nearby. Is it perhaps the original hospital on the site of the present General Hospital? Just a guess... |
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Forgive me JScott. I got fatally turned around for a bit. Great find! When I first looked at that photo I didn't even see the tree. In early days, old Aliso branched off to the NE from Aliso just west of the tree, at the Ramirez property, and did, I think, eventually cross or join the Macy street roadway (someone will know much more than I do about this). The Aliso St bridge was south of the covered bridge. Wait, now I remember, Old Aliso was renamed Lyon St and crossed Macy: Quote:
I wish I could confirm the date of the Plaza design shown in the USC photo, as that might help. It looks very new. The Plaza was first cleaned up, rounded and landscaped in stages starting in 1871 (after demolishing the reservoir, of course), an attempt, I think, the clean up our collective act, probably in response to the Chinese Massacre (I'm sure Pio Pico had something to do with it too, as Pico House was very new). The fountain was elevated then; one had to access it with steps. In time, the Plaza landscaping became very overgrown and was again redone. The Morton Bay figs were saved from the old landscaping (they're still there BTW) for the lovely new Wheel-of-the-Year design of the park, but what year this happened, I don't know. I was hoping Nathan Masters would know, but he didn't say on his blog. I talked to Jack Feldman over at the Water & Power Museum. He was not at all surprised to see the light masts. He says 240 of these 150-foot-tall masts were in place by the mid 1880s, some quite far-flung. Here's a second C.C. Pierce photo to compliment the one HossC posted. Time to play spot-the difference (hint: they were not taken on the same day): https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1...34425%2BPM.jpg usc digital library zoomable version Quote:
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