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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2012 4:53 AM

:previous: Wow..I'm very impressed BDiH. Thx for all the great information! (I'm amazed about the 'turntable' for automobiles).

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Since the Garden of Allah is synonymous with silent film actress Alla Nazimova I was quite surprised to find this postcard of Ms. Nazimova's 'Hayvenhurst' mansion without any mention of her famous Garden of Allah.

http://imageshack.us/a/img196/35/aaalla1a.jpg
ebay

This must be before she built the numerous bungalows on her property. -quite rare-



For an early post on Nazimova's Garden of Allah go here
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ah#post5086290

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Handsome Stranger Jun 25, 2012 5:37 AM

Hey all, if you're interested in noirish aspects of present day Los Angeles, and if you've got a Twitter account, I highly recommend following LAScanner. This guy...I think it's a guy...monitors police radios during evening hours and tweets about what's going on. He's got a wicked sense of humor (which fortunately is kept in check on the more serious calls).

http://oi45.tinypic.com/34r60x1.jpg

http://oi45.tinypic.com/33lcbif.jpg

[screen captures by me]

He doesn't post every night, but Fridays and Saturday nights seem to be a regular thing.

Hmm...I hope this wasn't too off topic!

jg6544 Jun 25, 2012 4:54 PM

RE: The Mayan Theater; Google "Aztec Theater San Antonio" for some pictures of a similarly themed theater in San Antonio built around the same time. I spent my teens in San Antonio and went to the Aztec fairly frequently - over-the-top lobby and auditorium.

GaylordWilshire Jun 25, 2012 5:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5743461)
A postcard I recently found on ebay.
http://imageshack.us/a/img815/7086/a...streethuge.jpg
Do you recognize any of these houses G_W?

The block on the south side of West Adams Street between Severance & Scarff had four houses--the related Hogan & Hull families in the easternmost (#840), Duffil in the still-standing 854, both to the left of the visible houses. The two closest houses in the view are the Stewart house at 870 and Maurice A. Newmark's at 880--the arches--he lived there until he died in 1929.

the widda ladies' things were eventually auctioned off:
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/1...870auction.jpg
Los Angeles Times 10-8-16 and 10-2-38

KevinW Jun 25, 2012 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5744750)
The Beverly Theater, domed building, center, is temporarily closed for remodeling in this aerial view of Beverly Hills. Photograph dated: May 26, 1978.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics49/00074230.jpgLAPL


Exterior of a Moorish style structure, located at 206 N. Beverly Drive in Beverly Hills, originally known as the Beverly Theatre; a Christmas garland hangs from above. Designed by L.A. Smith, this was the first vaudeville and movie theater to be built in Beverly Hills. In 1977, after decades of serving as a movie house, the building was closed. The interior was gutted and redesigned to accommodate commercial use; it was occupied by Fiorucci, the boutique seen here, and later an Israeli bank. Despite hopes that the structure could be saved, it was demolished in 2005.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090647.jpgLAPL, Anne Laskey


In this shot from the 30's or 40's, you can see the Brown Derby and the Beverly Theater in the B.G.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._6491518_o.jpg

MichaelRyerson Jun 25, 2012 7:20 PM

Joan Blondell warms up a very cool art-deco chair, circa 1933
 
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5036/7...001a1ca9_b.jpg
Joan Blondell

image from retronaut

ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2012 8:46 PM

The 23-room 'Villa Madama' built for Capt. Allan Hancock's widow, Ida, on the northeast corner of Wilshire Blvd. and Vermont Avenue in 1909.
Sadly, it was demolished in 1938.

http://imageshack.us/a/img805/1484/a...ionnecorne.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7294653@N07/2378140525/







below: The 'Villa Madama' fronting Wilshire Boulevard with Vermont Avenue in the foreground.
In the center of the photograph is the Villa Florist, a small flower shop.

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/1484/aa...ionnecorne.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/D...wdate=&hidate=




below: A rare vintage photograph of the Music Salon.

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/7573/a...croomflick.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansas_...an/5398378269/

Wouldn't it be great if we could go back in time and tour this wonderful mansion before it was destroyed in 1938.









Guess what....it's possible!! Rooms from the 'Villa Madama' were meticulously saved before the wrecking ball arrived at Wilshire and Vermont.

This is the Music Salon....compare it to the vintage photograph above.


http://imageshack.us/a/img444/3273/aahancockroom2.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7294653@N07/2378140525/






http://imageshack.us/a/img812/6655/a...room1atusc.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7294653@N07/2378140525/







http://imageshack.us/a/img824/1302/a...floydbbari.jpg
http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...al-museum.html




These exquisite rooms are preserved at the Allan Hancock Foundation Building at USC. (below)

http://imageshack.us/a/img705/8861/a...lanhancock.jpg
http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...al-museum.html






...one last photo. :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img265/6470/a...roomstairs.jpg
http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...al-museum.html

To be honest, I didn't know these rooms existed until today.




Special thanks to Floyd B. Bariscale....you're one of the best!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7294653@N07/2378140525/

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ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2012 12:24 AM

I forgot to include this photograph in my earlier post on the Oriental Theater.

http://imageshack.us/a/img195/8831/a...l1932amazi.jpg
unknown

This photo shows how vibrant the area around Sunset and Gardner was back in the day.

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rick m Jun 26, 2012 1:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5744766)
Looking southwest towards the Bullock's Wilshire department store, located at 3050 Wilshire Boulevard. Designed by John and Donald Parkinson and built in 1929, the department store became the library for the Southwestern Law School in the mid-1990s.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8166/7...5afeed8a_b.jpgLAPL, Anne Laskey Straightened up in Photoshop.

Exterior view of the Bullock's Wilshire department store, showing the bas-relief panel designed by Cedric Gibbons and sculpted by George Stanley above the main entrance; it reads, "To build a business that will never know completion."
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090113.jpgLAPL, Anne Laskey

Architectural element at the Bullock's Wilshire department store, showing a dressage motif.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090112.jpgLAPL, Anne Laskey

Iron gate from the porte-cochère found on the eastern side of Bullock's Wilshire, located at 3050 Wilshire Boulevard. During the store's heyday, this is where customers would enter to meet valet staff to drop off their cars.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090111.jpgLAPL, Anne Laskey

The "Spirit of Transportation" mural by Herman Sachs located on the ceiling of the porte-cochère found on the eastern side of Bullock's Wilshire; this view shows the section of the mural which includes the god Mercury.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090114.jpgLAPL, Anne Laskey

Rear exterior view of the Bullock's Wilshire department store.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090107.jpgLAPL, Anne Laskey

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7117/7...6795b689_b.jpg Google Earth modified by Photoshop

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7276/7...43083ebd_b.jpgGoogle Earth

Did not the Parkinson's hire the team of Julia Morgan and Annita Delano as the design team ? Actually these two women completely revolutionized department stores with their awesome ArtDeco treatment for the entire next decade-- I recently read up on Mme Delano as I almost received her watercolors of Hildreth mansion and Phineas Banning's Fort Moore place-that is until they went along with all else in a male couple's estate sale near the Chateau Marmot ...

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2012 5:06 AM

I always thought the only Camel billboard that actually smoked was in Times Square, NYC.

But here is one in Los Angeles puffing away!

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/418/aa...losangeles.jpg
http://www.aaa.si.edu/

I would love to figure out where this was located. Does anyone here recognize this particular corner?

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Flyingwedge Jun 26, 2012 5:52 AM

Originally posted by strangedays

Great, great thread. I feel obligated to contribute.

Looking at Baldwin Hills South/West, 1940-49, at what would become Baldwin Hills Park now. The road wrapping around on the right is probably Jefferson, which changed names into Higuera St., which probably intersects at bottom center (off screen) with Moynier Lane. The small road just after Jefferson/Higuera that dead ends into the hills could be Lewawee (based on a 1941 map). (USC Digital Collection)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6020/...0139f14d_b.jpg

I hope it's OK to revisit this photo, since it has a couple noir connections.

#1: The house more or less in the middle of the picture -- apparently with a water tank behind it -- up (south) the faint road from the greenhouse-shaped buildings . . . that's 3801 Lenawee Avenue, Los Angeles City Monument #502, the Collins-Furthman Mansion (Misspelled with two N's by the LA City Planning Dept).

http://cityplanning.lacity.org/compl...esult_City.cfm

I haven't figured out who Collins was, but Furthman was screenwriter Jules Furthman (1888-1966), who wrote the screenplays for, among others, the noir films The Big Sleep (1946) and Nightmare Alley (1947).

Per the LA County Assessor, the mansion dates to 1915 and was remodeled 1993; it's now an office building.

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ansion1915.jpg
- Photo by me

In his book "Von Sternberg" (University of Kentucky Press, 2010), author John Baxter writes, "Furthman lived in then-remote Culver City, where he had moved with his wife when neighbors complained about the cries of their mentally handicapped son. In a community that barely read and had little interest in art, he amassed a library of rare books and collections of coins, orchids, and art. He owned works by Picasso, Matisse, and Brancusi, and his seven greenhouses contained 48,000 orchid plants." [I count five large greenhouses in the picture]

The University of South Carolina houses the Jules Furthman Screenplay Archive; Box 10 includes "Inventory of the Furthman Orchid Nursery, 5940 West Jefferson Boulevard, Los Angeles, an orchid range [sic?] of seven houses (over 48,000 plants)" [The greenhouses are in the right spot to be at 5940 W. Jefferson]
http://library.sc.edu/spcoll/amlit/f...thmanarch.html

From the obituary of Esther Rodriguez Kaser, Ojai Valley News, Oct 3, 2007: "While living in Culver City in the ‘40s and ‘50s, they were fortunate enough to be orchid growers for film producer Jules Furthman on his orchid ranch. They also got to live on the ranch in a large home once used by Cecille [sic] B. DeMille that had been moved from the MGM movie lot to the ranch."
http://www.ojaivalleynews.com/archives/2007/OVN10-3.pdf

It's a bit of a stretch, but I wonder if "the large home" once used by DeMille is 3801 Lenawee? There doesn't seem to be any other really large home on the property in the 1940s photo.


#2: It's hard to see, but if you follow the Baldwin Hills ridgeline north to south in the 1940s photo, there appears to be a building with an oil derrick to its right, just above a mostly triangular, northeast-facing shadow. I believe that building is this house [CORRECTION: The house is hidden in the trees near the left edge of the photo]:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...useCloseup.jpg
- Photo by me

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...sefromBHSO.jpg
- Photo by me, looking south from Baldwin Hills Scenic Overlook

A house in the middle of an oilfield? It's practically pregnant with noir!

This house must predate the Inglewood Oilfield (1924), because who would build a house in the middle of all that? The house apparently lost its north chimney but looks lived in (note satellite dish and repaired cracks in brickwork); there's a porch on the west side, but I didn't get a good photo of that. You can also see the house from Kenneth Hahn SRA, or from La Cienega by the park entrance -- but keep your eyes on the road, please!

Does anyone know anything about that house? I've wondered about it since I was a kid -- and that was quite a while ago.

Flyingwedge Jun 26, 2012 6:04 AM

Originally posted by ethereal reality

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/418/aa...losangeles.jpg
http://www.aaa.si.edu/

I would love to figure out where this was located. Does anyone here recognize this particular corner?

Can't place the location, but I might have the date: The billboard above the Camel sign could be promoting Jack Benny's move from NBC to CBS, which happened in January 1949.

GaylordWilshire Jun 26, 2012 12:03 PM

:previous:

Looks to me like that's the northwest corner of Beverly and Fairfax

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogleSV

Earlier, different angle:
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067272.jpgLAPL

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogleSV

http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015285.jpgLAPL

http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015284.jpgLAPL

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090906.jpgLAPL

GaylordWilshire Jun 26, 2012 3:16 PM

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4337/krandill.jpgLAPL

I don't ever remember seeing this vanished gem before--6111 Wilshire. (Btw "Krandill" was a combination of the
principals' names: Herman Kranz and R.S. Diller.)

Moxie Jun 26, 2012 4:00 PM

:previous:

Definitely a better choice than 'Killer' would have been, though far less Noir.... ;)

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2012 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 5746753)
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...sefromBHSO.jpg
- Photo by me, looking south from Baldwin Hills Scenic Overlook

A house in the middle of an oilfield? It's practically pregnant with noir!

What a great post Flyingwedge. All that intriguing information gleaned from that one oil field aerial. ---simply fantastic!
And yes, I do agree that forlorn brick house is pregnant with noir.

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KevinW Jun 26, 2012 8:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5746719)
I always thought the only Camel billboard that actually smoked was in Times Square, NYC.

But here is one in Los Angeles puffing away!

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/418/aa...losangeles.jpg
http://www.aaa.si.edu/

I would love to figure out where this was located. Does anyone here recognize this particular corner?

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You're right GW, it does look like Hollywood so I looked up the old L.A. Central Directory for 1942 (the closest I could find to 1949) and came up with this

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8167/7...86556f9953.jpg
LAPL

Seems like the choices from here are

5227 W. Adams
648 S. Alvarado
7901 Beverly Blvd.
543, 4421 or 8657 S. Broadway
2306 Brooklyn Ave
3651 or 5452 Crenshaw Blvd.
5931 Franklin Ave
5719 Figaroa
6637 Hollywood Blvd.
520 S. Main
8800 W. Pico Blvd
5547 Santa Monica Blvd
8005 Sunset Blvd.
1730 N. Vermont Ave
5825 or 8416 S. Vermont Ave
998 S. Western Ave.
4801 Whittier Blvd.
2033 or 5401 Wilshire Blvd.

Pretty exhaustive list so I decided to go to Google Street View and see where the corner locations were.


Seems to me like the building at Beverly and Wilshire is too tall. I'd say the most promising is 6637 Hollywood Blvd., next door to Musso and Franks.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7134/7...2fbfcff8_b.jpg
Google Street View

Either that or 998 S. Western which now looks like this:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8028/7...580715e8_b.jpg

The street lamps match in the first shot. I dunno. You decide.

fhammon Jun 26, 2012 9:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 5746753)

#2: It's hard to see, but if you follow the Baldwin Hills ridgeline north to south in the 1940s photo, there appears to be a building with an oil derrick to its right, just above a mostly triangular, northeast-facing shadow. I believe that building is this house:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...useCloseup.jpg
- Photo by me

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...sefromBHSO.jpg
- Photo by me, looking south from Baldwin Hills Scenic Overlook

A house in the middle of an oilfield? It's practically pregnant with noir!

This house must predate the Inglewood Oilfield (1924), because who would build a house in the middle of all that? The house apparently lost its north chimney but looks lived in (note satellite dish and repaired cracks in brickwork); there's a porch on the west side, but I didn't get a good photo of that. You can also see the house from Kenneth Hahn SRA, or from La Cienega by the park entrance -- but keep your eyes on the road, please!

Does anyone know anything about that house? I've wondered about it since I was a kid -- and that was quite a while ago.

I'm glad you brought this up too. I live not far from there at the Village Green and pass by the place almost daily always looking up at it and wondering...

The house is being offered as a filming location "Originally constructed in 1896, this unoccupied 5,400 sq. ft. brick craftsman masterpiece is a throwback to “Anywhere Rural America” and is situated on the
highest hill in a functioning 1,100 acre oil field."

"PROPERTY INQUIRIES CONTACT:
Please contact Liz Gosnell for additional photos, tours and
availability.
626-533-3730"

This video was shot there "At the historic Baldwin House"
http://www.nowness.com/day/2011/2/8/...-rodartes-muse

Keep in mind the that the Stocker Oil Fields were once owned or at least named after Clara Stocker, Lucky Baldwin's daughter who inherited and then sold off Rancho La Cienega o Paso de la Tijera bit by bit. It's possible she had a connection to the house.
It may have been owned by either Raymond Chandler or any of the L.A. Times Chandlers.

Photos and info are from here:

http://www.baldwinhillsoilhouse.com/index.html



http://www.baldwinhillsoilhouse.com/...ch-256x184.jpg

http://www.baldwinhillsoilhouse.com/...nt-295x209.jpg

http://www.baldwinhillsoilhouse.com/...se-525x347.jpg

so-cal-bear Jun 26, 2012 9:28 PM

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Fab Fifties Fan Jun 26, 2012 10:59 PM

Noir break....
 
Yesterday while spending an eternity in my dentist's waiting room, I started re-browsing through the USC Digital Archives. I stumbled across two images with the caption "Attempted Suicide, Hollywood 1957", so I of course had to know more.

The little snippet of a description stated that Phillip J. Tucker a Hollywood filmmaker had attempted suicide via carbon monoxide poisoning. The name Phil Ticker jumped out at me as the director of my all time favorite so-bad-its-great horror movie "Robot Monster".

Throughout college in Denver and design school in LA, watching bad horror movies was the favorite late night past-time of my friends and I. Crack open a few beers, pack a bowl and laugh our butts off at Robot Monster, ahhh good times!!!

Did a little research and found that Phil made it through and became a well respected film editor in Hollywood, He passed away in 1985.

Phil and his beloved film after being rolled out of the gas filled garage.
http://imageshack.us/a/img835/4986/p...ersuicide1.jpg

At the hospital still looking pretty depressed.
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/3492/p...ersuicide2.jpg
USC Digital Archives

If you haven't seen it and enjoy bad horror films, get it!!!
http://imageshack.us/a/img855/2377/p...botmonster.jpg

~Jon Paul


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