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KevinW Mar 26, 2024 12:12 AM

I lived a block from this mural and its subject matter back in ‘86. It’s Windward avenue in Venice just west of the traffic circle. It was a huge mural on the side of 21 Windward painted by Terry Schoonhoven


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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10171668)
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Speaking of optical illusions.


Seller's description:.."1979 VW Beetle Bug Los Angeles California City Pacific Street 35mm Slide."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/6wC0zm.jpg
eBay

At first glance the slide seems perfectly normal (expect for the terrible parking job) but then I noticed that things in the distance seem a bit 'off'.



Let's take a closer look.

So what's going on here?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/VxONwl.jpg
detail

The angles are a bit jabberwocky, the church looks slanted and one dimensional, and the whole thing looks -dare I say- painted.



:shrug:
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JeffDiego Mar 26, 2024 12:50 AM

Houses on Bronson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 10171501)
First of all, woodies are beautiful things.

The house at left is 658 S Bronson Avenue; to its right are 666 and 672, all of which still stand. (Apparently the owners of 666 have not had Ron & Nancy's superstitions.)

658 was built in 1913 by Allan W. Black, who in 1907 had built 4128 Wilshire Boulevard to the left of 658 on the corner, having hired Frederick Soper to design both. More on Black's houses is here.

And of course there's a little noir in the story: "By 1930 [4128 Wilshire] had become an illicit club described by the Los Angeles Times after a raid as "an ornate replica of a Tia Juana gambling house."


https://i.postimg.cc/0yFndw4b/WB658-...ntoday-bmp.jpg
GSV

Bingo! Thank you, Gaylord.

Martin Pal Mar 26, 2024 4:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10172325)
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Here's a mystery photograph dated May - 1972.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/qBYovZ.jpg
eBay

The seller mentions Wilshire Blvd. but I'm not so sure.

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Hoss identified it as definitely Wilshire. I was going to say that perhaps it was an Easter Parade or something. There's a whole Jack Benny episode about going down to Wilshire to see the Easter Parade. And, no, Easter isn't in May, but back in the days of film processing the date stamped on the photos was when they were processed. I remember in our family some photos outside in the snow in winter are stamped "June."
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ETA: Well, I just looked up the eBay link and the seller has two other photos of this parade and the other two don't say "Easter" to me. There's one with a band and people holding "oars."

ethereal_reality Mar 26, 2024 6:43 PM

:previous:

Thoroughly Modern Millie premier?


;)

ethereal_reality Mar 27, 2024 8:13 PM

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This afternoon we have a mystery location...A large junkyard in Los Angeles.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/c8UGIK.jpg
eBay

If you look in the distance there appears to be an earthen retaining wall...And yes, the starlets are beautiful!



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/esBCmp.jpg




Here's a better look at (what I think is) an 'earthen retaining wall'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/NXhqy7.jpg

See what I mean? :shrug:


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Mackerm Mar 27, 2024 8:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 10172811)
ETA: Well, I just looked up the eBay link and the seller has two other photos of this parade and the other two don't say "Easter" to me. There's one with a band and people holding "oars."


Here are some more photos from the same set as the carload of flappers, marked May 72.

Parade with banners reading Kotekitai. The banner in the second photo says Seattle.

Group of people in white uniforms, outside Imperial Bank.

ethereal_reality Mar 27, 2024 8:32 PM

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Thanks, Mackerm.

At first glance I thought they were astronauts.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/wDu0hX.jpg
eBay


The seller mentions something called Nichiren Shoshu of in America.


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Flyingwedge Mar 28, 2024 2:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10173698)
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This afternoon we have a mystery location...A large junkyard in Los Angeles.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/c8UGIK.jpg
eBay

If you look in the distance there appears to be an earthen retaining wall...And yes, the starlets are beautiful!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/esBCmp.jpg

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This photo may have been taken at Universal Studio. I don't know about the dog, but both Ms. Knox and Ms. Lord made
pictures at Universal in 1942, and here's an article about Hollywood studios contributing to a scrap metal drive which
mentions Universal and the sign in the photo:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._Universal.jpg

October 21, 1942, Daily News @ Newspapers.com

JeffDiego Mar 28, 2024 3:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10173698)
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This afternoon we have a mystery location...A large junkyard in Los Angeles.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/c8UGIK.jpg
eBay

If you look in the distance there appears to be an earthen retaining wall...And yes, the starlets are beautiful!



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/esBCmp.jpg




Here's a better look at (what I think is) an 'earthen retaining wall'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/NXhqy7.jpg

See what I mean? :shrug:


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Thanks, Ethereal, for the delightful publicity photo of Elyse Knox (mother of Mark Harmon) and Marjorie Lord (lifelong Christian Scientist, married to actor John Archer and mother of actress Ann Archer, a prominent Scientologist - no relation at all to Christian Science). Inside the front seat of the junked car at the far left is what appears to be a ghostly, mask-like face, surely an optical illusion)
Another interesting photo also that mentions Nichiren Shoshu, a Bhuddist chanting organization, that had a big L.A. headquarters bldg. overlooking the beach at Santa Monica. Is it long-gone? I well-recall being stopped by a Nichiren Shoshu devotee in a Santa Monica parking lot in the 70's...when I politely declined his invitation to an orientation, he called me "stupid." I had an odd neighbor in Ocean Beach, a devotee of Nichiren Shoshu, who would chant creepily like someone in a drug trance for hours at a time. Those were the lovely days when most everyone, (except for the elderly) in Santa Monica, Hollywood & environs was frequently accosted by "Moonies," Scientologists.," (would you like to take a survey?, they would endlessly ask passerby) "Hare Krishna" chanters, Nichiren Shoshu followers, and Tony & Susan Alamo "Jesus Freak" cultists. They all wanted you to come to their "meetings." Don't forget all of the weirdness going on at the huge Synanon Bldg (I believe it's the Casa del Mar Hotel today & as Synanon was finally shut down as a criminal organization) and there was another big drug rehab/halfway house called Tu'em Est (I think that means "It's Your Choice.") in a rambling brick structure in Venice. A strange time.

corriganville Mar 28, 2024 5:00 PM

Universal Studio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10173698)
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This afternoon we have a mystery location...A large junkyard in Los Angeles.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/c8UGIK.jpg
eBay

If you look in the distance there appears to be an earthen retaining wall...And yes, the starlets are beautiful!



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/esBCmp.jpg




Here's a better look at (what I think is) an 'earthen retaining wall'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/NXhqy7.jpg

See what I mean? :shrug:


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The background hill in the photo is an unique feature of Universal Studio before houses were built on top of it.

Martin Pal Mar 28, 2024 6:14 PM

Marjorie Lord was best known as the wife in 227 episodes of Make Room for Daddy.

ethereal_reality Mar 29, 2024 1:33 AM

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re: Junkyard mystery solved!


This pretty much proves that the eBay phograph was taken at Universal Studios.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 10173909)
Here's an article about Hollywood studios contributing to a scrap metal drive which
mentions Universal and the sign in the photo:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._Universal.jpg

October 21, 1942, Daily News @ Newspapers.com


Thanks for your help, Flyingwedge, JeffDiego, corriganville and Matin Pal.





Here's a club I could never join. :(

The Southern California TALL Club.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/XWQYgI.jpg
eBay


You'd think they would have chosen a venue with a higher ceiling.

JOINT MEETING

Southern California Tall Clubs

Old Dixie - Los Angeles - feb. 10. 1951.


Hmm, Old Dixie? :shrug: Where Dat?

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odinthor Mar 29, 2024 2:17 AM

:previous:

e_r, it appears that the Old Dixie Barbeque was used for such events:

https://i.postimg.cc/Kc31VGRX/OldDixie.jpg
LA Times, 1/18/1952.

:cheers:

ScottyB Mar 29, 2024 4:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 10174565)
:previous:

e_r, it appears that the Old Dixie Barbeque was used for such events:

https://i.postimg.cc/Kc31VGRX/OldDixie.jpg
LA Times, 1/18/1952.

:cheers:


My vote goes to Peanuts Lowrey. Great name, great player, local kid (born and buried in Culver City (1917-1986)) worked in Our Gang films etc. Decidedly not a member of the Tall Club at 5'8".

Sorry to digress- it's opening day you know ;)

Martin Pal Mar 29, 2024 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 10174633)
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Sorry to digress- it's opening day you know ;)

Yay! So far so good! :fingerscrossed:

Martin Pal Mar 29, 2024 3:30 PM

https://i0.wp.com/www.tall.org/uploa...play3_orig.jpg
https://www.tall.org

Yes, the very first Tall Club was formed in...Los Angeles in 1938.

Los Angeles, California
Club Name: California Tip Toppers –“Earth’s first Tall Club!”

When you join a TCI affiliate Tall Club, you are automatically a member of Tall Clubs International, and therefore invited to attend various “TCI Weekends” throughout the year, and in many parts of the continent. This year the annual convention is in Dunedin, FL sponsored by the Tall'phins.

Focus: Awareness of height issues
There are Tall groups around the world.
On their website, the current issue is one I sympathize with: Can Airline Seating Get Any Worse?
They also spotlight the first "Tall Movie": The 2019 Netflix movie Tall Girl has a scene of parents hosting a meeting of the Tall group in their home for the benefit of their daughter, the titular tall girl.


I could belong to one as I am 6'5"! Although why haven't I heard of this group until...NOW?

ethereal_reality Mar 29, 2024 8:20 PM

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re: The venue used by the TALL Club.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/ACx9PU.jpg
detail


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/sPSTLN.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/l8JTLW.jpg

I don't believe I've ever had barbecue cooked over actual Hickory wood. (maybe I have & didn't realize it)
..In any case - color me deprived.

Thanks for finding the address, odinthor.

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ethereal_reality Mar 29, 2024 8:30 PM

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Here's another club I've never heard of before.

Seller's description:..Photograph 1920-30's Los Angeles Excursionist Group Meeting Dinner Banquet.

or simply

The Los Angeles Excursionists Club / Unknown Pool Hall. 1920s or 30s?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/zVszAO.jpg
Currently listed on eBay




Let's take a closer look at the back wall and that chalk board.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/7n1Z5B.jpg
detail

I toyed with the idea that this might be Los Angeles, Mexico but most of the guests appear to be nonhispanics.


2 minutes later.

OR - this just occured to me - the group has traveled to, say, Tiajuana?? (that's just my guess, mind you)

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ethereal_reality Mar 30, 2024 7:27 PM


Where's Waldo Mabel?

Surprise!..Here's another CLUB.


Estate sale find:.. Vintage Original Antique Los Angeles CA Photo DD Club Women Florence Ockerson, Mabel Griffith, others identified on back, 1911.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Yj0zDg.jpg
eBay


The first thing I thought of was D A R, Daughters of the Revoltion, but this is the D D Club. :shrug: (it's probably something so obvious I'm going to be embarrassed when I find out)

Here's a close-up of the lower right corner.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/35nwjs.jpg
detail




Again, from the seller:.."Estate sale find, vintage original Antique Los Angeles CA Photo DD Club Women Florence Ockerson, Mabel Griffith, others identified on back, 1911."

I was excited when I read this because I thought "Mabel Griffith" must be D.W. Griffith's wife. - but that's not the case. His wive's names were . .

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/t1FEfl.jpg
wiki


And if you google "Mabel Griffith", the Mabel that comes up is the silent screen star, Mabel Normand.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/7KbCmA.jpg
Mabel Normand selfie.



And who the heck is Florence Ockerson?


Help! :whip:

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Earl Boebert Mar 30, 2024 7:45 PM

Newspapers.com has 8 entries for "D D Club" in 1911, none of which tell us what the initials stand for. One entry says it was an embroidery club.

Cheers,

Earl

Edit: There are mentions of the club clear to 1966. Later entries call it a book and travel club. It seems to have been centered in Monrovia, and its membership was "teachers and literary women." In 1906 it was described as "secret in name only."

Noir_Noir Mar 31, 2024 1:39 PM

:previous:


Four of the DD Clubbers from the picture listed as Monrovia school teachers in 1910.


https://i.imgur.com/fdKTOXq.jpeg
archive.org - The Los Angeles Times 1910-06-25


Also in the picture, Mrs. Charles H. Anson (top row, 3rd from left) was tried and punished by the club for being a very naughty girl in 1905.


https://i.imgur.com/cGNsmMX.jpeg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald, 29 October 1905

Martin Pal Mar 31, 2024 6:46 PM

Maybe they all wear the same bra size. :runaway:

ethereal_reality Mar 31, 2024 7:51 PM

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Oh my! I hadn't thought of that.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/8964/CV2gRR.gif

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ethereal_reality Apr 1, 2024 7:58 PM

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:previous:

That's Ben Turpin by the way. lol




I happened upon these two photograph a year or so ago - and I'm pretty sure I forgot to post them here on NLA.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/jhDyU0.jpg




Let's take a closer look, shall we?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8zBm6N.jpg

Holy Mackeral!.. I'd give anything to know where this was taken and who the people are.





Now let's take a closer look at the outdoor picnic.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Wqa49i.jpg

At first glance Sycamore Grove crossed my mind but this look more like someone's farm. Besides I don't thing those scraggly trees are Sycamores... (odinthor, do you know what kind of trees those are?)



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odinthor Apr 1, 2024 8:24 PM

:previous:

e_r, I'm thinking Live Oaks in the right half, with Eucalyptus on the left.

Lwize Apr 2, 2024 2:15 AM

OK, Noirish Sleuths.

Carol Burnett was on Conan O'Brien's podcast.
She was telling a story about living in a one room apartment in Hollywood as a teen with her grandmother, and she spilled the address:

6343 Yucca St.

There's businesses there now, but in the 1950's, was there an apartment building on the corner?

Now get cracking! :superwhip

HenryHuntington Apr 2, 2024 2:38 AM

The 1956 PacTel Street Directory shows 6341 Yucca to be a dry cleaners and 6355 Yucca to be a florist shop with no 6343 listed at all. There are several apartment buildings listed in the 6300 block; so if Ms. Burnett was off on the street address or was misheard, did she say what her grandmother's last name was?

Update: Never mind, I found it: Mabel Eudora "Mae" Jones White, who passed in 1967 and so maybe still lived in Hollywood in 1956. No hits on Yucca that I could find, though.

ethereal_reality Apr 2, 2024 3:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 10176053)
:previous:

e_r, I'm thinking Live Oaks in the right half, with Eucalyptus on the left.

Thanks, odinthor. ..I knew I could depend on your expertise. :)

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Martin Pal Apr 2, 2024 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 10176196)
OK, Noirish Sleuths.
Carol Burnett was on Conan O'Brien's podcast.
She was telling a story about living in a one room apartment in Hollywood as a teen with her grandmother, and she spilled the address:
6343 Yucca St.
There's businesses there now, but in the 1950's, was there an apartment building on the corner?
Now get cracking! :superwhip
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According to this I Am No Stalker LINK, Carol's childhood home address was The Hollywood Arms at 6434 Yucca Street, Room 102.

Here's a recently posted (a year ago) youtube video:
Story Location Tour: Carol Burnett, where you'll be taken on a walking tour of Carol's neighborhood and residence and go inside the building as the guide reads some passages from Carol's book about the place and also we hear Carol's own voice at times. (I didn't watch the whole video as of yet.)


Video Link

riichkay Apr 2, 2024 6:09 PM

Martin Pal, you beat me to it....1950 census....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

The Hollywood Arms #102 is correct.

ethereal_reality Apr 2, 2024 10:39 PM

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Re: Florence Ockerson in the D. D. Club eBay photo.

I found a photograph of her - and her mother - in the UCLA archives.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/GkioCX.jpg
UCLA archives.

Red Oak is in Iowa.

I'm finding it difficult to match her in D.D. pic because of the heavy shadows on her face.


Here's a closer look.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/oTHkgt.jpg


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Lwize Apr 3, 2024 4:09 AM

Agh
6434 Yucca St.
6343 Yucca St.

I was close... :(

Noir_Noir Apr 3, 2024 7:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10176783)
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Re: Florence Ockerson in the D. D. Club eBay photo.

I found a photograph of her - and her mother - in the UCLA archives.


Red Oak is in Iowa.

I'm finding it difficult to match her in D.D. pic because of the heavy shadows on her face.


Here's a closer look.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/oTHkgt.jpg


Here's another picture of Florence - this one from 1940. She was attending the Iowa Picnic in Lincoln Park, Los Angeles.


https://i.imgur.com/xRDm0lK.jpeg
digital.library.ucla.edu



The listing on the back of the DD Club picture places Florence at front right.


https://i.imgur.com/pYKAn1a.jpeg


https://i.imgur.com/RpxLqyk.jpeg

riichkay Apr 4, 2024 6:34 AM

Anyone know where these folks are sitting?....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Actress Natalie Wood, actor John Smith, actor Bob Fuller, Lance Fuller and actress Jayne Mansfield at a table outside a restaurant in Los Angeles, CA....June 13 1955...


More from the same photo shoot....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


This is at a Wil Wright's Ice Cream Parlor....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


John Smith and Robert Fuller appeared as regulars on the television Western "Laramie", 1959-'63.....in the '70's Fuller had a continuing role on the Jack Webb-produced series "Emergency!"


Lance Fuller had a minor career in B-pictures and a handful of TV guest shots....he went a little nuts on 10-30-1968 (his age is misstated here, he was 40 in '68)....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

JeffDiego Apr 4, 2024 7:45 AM

Young Hollywood Hopefuls in Happier Days
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 10177816)
Anyone know where these folks are sitting?....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Actress Natalie Wood, actor John Smith, actor Bob Fuller, Lance Fuller and actress Jayne Mansfield at a table outside a restaurant in Los Angeles, CA....June 13 1955...


More from the same photo shoot....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


This is at a Wil Wright's Ice Cream Parlor....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


John Smith and Robert Fuller appeared as regulars on the television Western "Laramie", 1959-'63.....in the '70's Fuller had a continuing role on the Jack Webb-produced series "Emergency!"


Lance Fuller had a minor career in B-pictures and a handful of TV guest shots....he went a little nuts on 10-30-1968 (his age is misstated here, he was 40 in '68)....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Thanks, riichkay, for the interesting photos of these up-and-coming stars in happier days.

A bit of gossip for those who may be interested. A recent book, "Brainstorm," by Attorney Sam Perroni, makes the most compelling case yet that Natalie Wood's strange death off Catalina was second-degree homicide and that there was a concerted cover-up by the Los Angeles Police Dept., (involving Police Chief Peter Pitchess) along with Frank Sinatra and mob lawyer Sidney Korshak, all who wished to protect their friend Robert Wagner. Wagner's current wife, Jill St John, had a serious affair - Stella Stevens did too - with long-married Korshak in earlier years. Sinatra wrote an angry letter to the police chief, excoriating Coroner Thomas Noguchi, whom colleagues described as "acting strangely" during Wood's autopsy, (as though "part of a cover-up") and he was demoted. His autopsy findings in that case are still disputed, just as they were after Marilyn Monroe's autopsy. The Sinatra letter "disappeared" when the author of "Brainstorm" tried legally to look at it. One of Hollywood's mysteries.
The item about Lance Fuller getting shot while yelling "I am Jesus Christ!" is bizarre, but he had a long life. In the early 50's he was married to gorgeous blonde bombshell Joi Lansing, who in her last years was in a romantic relationship with a young woman. - who has written a book about their love affair.
Handsome young John Smith, whose chisled Nordic face was familiar in the 1950's, sadly became a "passed-out-in-the-dirt" drunk in his later years & lived in the Crenshaw area bungalow he'd inherited from his parents.
The photos of Jayne Mansfield looking rather ordinary (compared to what she looked like a couple of years later) show what a team of expert stylists and personal trainers can do & later did to turn her into the unreal creature of 1956's "The Girl Can't Help It." Most everyone knows that by the mid-60's Jayne was a sad, alcoholic parody of herself who died with her male companion in a horrific car accident in Mississippi.
Robert Fuller is still going at age 90, apparently living in Texas, and one hopes he's doing well - the only survivor of this photo shoot.
A note about the photo supposedly taken at Wil Wright's upscale Ice Cream Parlor, probably the one on Sunset Strip, (8641 Sunset Blvd.) although there was one in Westwood Village & one in North Hollywood/Studio City. Wil Wright's was famous for their hand-packed, ultra-high-butterfat ice cream in exotic flavors ("Jamaican Ginger" etc.). Hard to believe they would've had a soft-serve machine, but if that's what the photo says, so be it. It seems more likely that the photo was taken at the same diner-drive-in where the carhop was passing out Cokes, and the photographer or publicist located it at Wil Wright's since that was known to be a glamorous locale frequented by stars.

Martin Pal Apr 4, 2024 4:24 PM

John Smith was a client of the infamous agent Henry Willson, who gave most of his clients more unusual monikers, like Chance Gentry, also Race Gentry, and Troy Donohue. Other intriguing names: Buck Class, Ty Hardin and Cal Bolder.

So why John Smith? (I would have objected, myself.) From an article: LINK

Willson is not an inflexible man, he doesn't always give his charges names such as Rock, Tab, Rory or Lana. One of his changes took Hollywood by surprise. That was the time he changed Robert Van Orden--a name which had the makings of a Henry Willson creation--into just plain John Smith, who went on to become co-star of "Laramie." "Everybody asks me about that change," Willson said. "At the time, there was Bobby Van, Van Johnson, Van Heflin and Mamie Van Doren. So I got tired of the whole thing and named him John Smith."

riichkay Apr 4, 2024 6:49 PM

Great comments, JeffDiego and Martin Pal....

Here's more on John Smith....his father registered for the draft with 2219 Redondo Blvd. as his address, this is likely the Crenshaw area bungalow Jeff refers to where Smith lived out his last days....the draft card is dated Feb. 14 1942 (documents courtesy FamilySearch)....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


....three months later Mr. Van Orden was dead....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds



2219 Redondo Blvd.....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Bristolian Apr 4, 2024 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 10177820)
Thanks, riichkay, for the interesting photos of these up-and-coming stars in happier days.

A bit of gossip for those who may be interested. A recent book, "Brainstorm," by Attorney Sam Perroni, makes the most compelling case yet that Natalie Wood's strange death off Catalina was second-degree homicide and that there was a concerted cover-up by the Los Angeles Police Dept., (involving Police Chief Peter Pitchess) along with Frank Sinatra and mob lawyer Sidney Korshak, all who wished to protect their friend Robert Wagner.

Peter Pitchess was L.A. County Sheriff, not Police Cheif but retired in 1981, the year Natalie Wood died. Could it have been Daryl Gates?
I don't know would have jurisdiction over a Catalina drowning.

I can say that the car those kids posed with is a Jaguar XK120 or XK140

BDiH Apr 5, 2024 1:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 10176580)
Martin Pal, you beat me to it....1950 census....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

The Hollywood Arms #102 is correct.

Carol lived at the Green Apartments at 6434 Yucca. I delivered the Citizen News there in the 1950s and also went to Le Conte and Hollywood High. I followed in her footsteps and was editor of the Hollywood High News, years after she graduated.

The city honored her with Carol Burnett Square at Highland and Selma, a perfect choice of locations.

GaylordWilshire Apr 5, 2024 1:23 PM

:previous:


Carol's mother seems to have lived a floor above her mother and Carol at 6343 Yucca. Not sure why she's "Louise A. Burnett" here and elsewhere "Ina Louise Burnett" but her birthplace (Arkansas) and age match Carol's mother.


https://i.postimg.cc/JhD3dgcj/burnettmother-bmp.jpg

Martin Pal Apr 5, 2024 4:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDiH (Post 10178464)
Carol lived at the Green Apartments at 6434 Yucca. I delivered the Citizen News there in the 1950s and also went to Le Conte and Hollywood High. I followed in her footsteps and was editor of the Hollywood High News, years after she graduated.

Excellent!

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Originally Posted by BDiH (Post 10178464)
The city honored her with Carol Burnett Square at Highland and Selma, a perfect choice of locations.

I've seen the signs online, but I should walk down there next time I get up to Hollywood Blvd.; I was there last Saturday evening at the (restored) Egyptian Theater during the rainy stormy evening with a sold out appreciative crowd seeing a 75 year old film noir (Nightmare Alley). The colorful restored Egyptian Theatre neon was so sparkly and gorgeous in the misty, rainy night.



And come to think of it, I have walked by this sign before! Last December in fact.

April 18, 2013.
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/i...9-twics-43.jpgNBCNews

Martin Pal Apr 5, 2024 4:14 PM

Now this is something Angelenos are more familiar with that happened today:
New York City, Boston and Philadelphia rumbled by 4.8-magnitude quake
The U.S. Geological Survey tentatively measured the quake as a 4.8 temblor near Whitehouse Station, New Jersey.
It struck a little before 10:30 a.m. ET.

Mackerm Apr 5, 2024 4:36 PM

Now you've inflamed a festering peeve about the nomenclature of Bob Hope Square, and now Carol Burnett Square.

I nominate "Ethereal Reality Crossroads" at Sunset and Las Palmas.

Times Square is not a Square

Google reviews of various Squares and Stairs around Los Angeles by Eric Brightwell.

ethereal_reality Apr 5, 2024 7:54 PM

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Aw, shucks. :blush:
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BDiH Apr 5, 2024 8:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 10178822)
Now you've inflamed a festering peeve about the nomenclature of Bob Hope Square, and now Carol Burnett Square.

I nominate "Ethereal Reality Crossroads" at Sunset and Las Palmas.

Times Square is not a Square

How about Mickey Rooney Memorial Square at Sunset & Orange? Speakers, including the principal of Hollywood High School, recognized him as a student.

In reality, Mickey was a student at Fairfax High School.

ethereal_reality Apr 5, 2024 9:24 PM


Noirish Los Angeles.

I happened up another mugshot on eBay.

Los Angeles Police Department City Jail...2 25 54.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/S5x0FS.jpg

This one is more interesting because the information on the back is legible. (that wasn't the case last week)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/PCQVxz.jpg
For search purposes:..Audrey J. Harrigan - Blo Bln(?) - 5.3 123 lbs. - 1924 (birthdate?)


To see the previous mugshot (of the blonde woman) go HERE

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JeffDiego Apr 6, 2024 1:31 AM

Natalie Wood death
 
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Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 10178365)
Peter Pitchess was L.A. County Sheriff, not Police Cheif but retired in 1981, the year Natalie Wood died. Could it have been Daryl Gates?
I don't know would have jurisdiction over a Catalina drowning.

I can say that the car those kids posed with is a Jaguar XK120 or XK140

Thanks for your comment, Bristolian. I was going by memory after listening to various Youtube interviews with the author of the book about Natalie Wood's death...so was mistaken in identifying Peter Pitchess as being L.A. police chief in 1981...he was Sheriff. It was indeed Pitchess whom the author of "Brainstorm" identified as being involved in the cover-up of Wood's death. Not having read the book, I don't know the depth of his involvement. Pitchess was apparently super-impressed with Sinatra & Sinatra's celebrity.
Although Wood drowned off Catalina, I assume the case certainly came under Los Angeles jurisdiction since Wood was an L.A. resident and her autopsy was performed in L.A. A particularly interesting youtube interview is with Marilyn Wayne, a commodities broker from Beverly Hills who was with her son and fiance in a boat near Wood's and Wagner's boat. She clearly heard for twenty minutes a woman yelling for help & saying she was drowning...and she convincingly explains why she herself didn't jump into the frigid water & attempt a rescue on the pitch dark night that Wood drowned. Wayne was anonymously threatened at least twice to keep her mouth shut, and she did for nearly twenty years.

Lwize Apr 6, 2024 1:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 10178651)
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Carol's mother seems to have lived a floor above her mother and Carol at 6343 Yucca. Not sure why she's "Louise A. Burnett" here and elsewhere "Ina Louise Burnett" but her birthplace (Arkansas) and age match Carol's mother.

Carol's mother was in the building, but Carol was raised by her grandmother because IIRC her mother was an alcoholic.

Martin Pal Apr 6, 2024 5:11 PM

I don't know if anyone has stumbled across this before, but this might be an interesting or useful source at some point.

Historic Southern California Restaurants
Tribute by Jeffrey Sward

Character, ambiance, longevity, history, innovation, and heritage. Restaurants in the main lists are open for business. Extinct restaurants are listed here (link).

Main cutoff date is 1970. Selective listings after this date.
Sort by Restaurant Name | Sort by Year Established | Closed

https://www.jeffreysward.com/tribute...st.htm#pagetop

ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2024 8:30 PM

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Can you imagine making something like this in shop class!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/oc1vQd.jpg
eBay - 102 St. School, Watts(?) - 1943

The children must have absolutely loved this project.



The homemade airplane is parked behind the children in this 2nd photo. (one student is sitting in it)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/8ORw7G.jpg



Here's the reverse of one of the photographs. (so Mr. Mills was the teacher I take it)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/tEVB6w.jpg



Sadly, Mr. Mills decided to take it for a test flight.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7841/GZ06Nl.gif



Is anyone familiar with this school? I think it's in the Compton or Watts area.
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