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HossC Sep 11, 2016 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilberfan (Post 7557304)

Could you help me identify where the Biff's would have been? And whether it was still there in the Summer of 1996?

I found a couple of newspapers from the '60s which list Biff's at 18130 Sherman Way, but this later advert says 18134 Sherman Way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7236373)

A page at allreseda.com thinks Biff's closed in the mid '90s, but wants confirmation. They also say it's now 'Closed down restaurant – “La Tortilla Loca”'. I can't find any pictures of this Biff's, and the site is now an empty lot, but going back to 2014, I found this.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

Martin Pal Sep 11, 2016 6:37 PM

Ed Ruscha has been deservedly talked about on NLA before. Here's a new
short video put online at Vimeo three weeks ago about him and his work:



One thing I learned is how you pronounce his name. I'd never heard anyone
say it out loud before and the way I thought you'd pronounce it isn't correct.

How do you think it's pronounced? Hit play and
you'll know at around the twenty second mark.

HossC Sep 11, 2016 7:46 PM

Today's Julius Shulman photos show Blum's, a restaurant apparently known for its desserts. This is "Job 1568: Blum's (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1953".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Martin Pal, did you spot this sign on the right?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Here's another view of the exterior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

I've left out about half of the interior shots, but I liked this one of a circular bar area.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

There's some tasty-looking confectionery in this counter.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

The last picture I've chosen shows a dining area with strange, tree-like decorations.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

Blum's was at 314 N Camden Drive, later moving to 9454 Wilshire Boulevard. The Camden Drive location is now the site of an office block. The Coffee Dan's was at 9561 Wilshire Boulevard. I think The Grill on the Alley is now in that building (their address is given as 9560 Dayton Way, the road behind) - the upright sign looks the same.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
GSV

ethereal_reality Sep 11, 2016 8:34 PM

Blum's

Originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/3aD0vb.jpg


:previous: I could be wrong Hoss, but I believe Blum's rather surreal interior might be a Tony Duquette creation.





My first clue was this 'birdcage'. (and that circus-like striped canopy over the circular bar in the other pic)

Blum's
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/9l59KO.jpg
originally post by HossC





Mocambo's version up on Sunset Blvd. [by Tony Duquette]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/mm4zkJ.jpg
http://tonyduquette.com/mocambo/

ok, I admit it's a bit more frilly than Blum's version.




birdcage in situ / Mocambo's
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/DnpYdb.jpg
hollywoodphotographs

"IN 1941 THE PREMIER LOS ANGELES DECORATOR, BILLY HAINES, ASKED TONY DUQUETTE TO PROVIDE THE SPECIAL DECORATIONS
FOR THE MOCAMBO NIGHT CLUB ON THE SUNSET STRIP."





And who can forget the tight-rope walking poodle-thingy? (it still haunts my dreams :))

Mocambo's circa 1950
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/dUE0Al.jpg
http://tonyduquette.com/mocambo/ -previously seen on NLA


Check out this earlier post by Martin_Pal:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=27187


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Martin Pal Sep 11, 2016 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7557615)
Today's Julius Shulman photos show Blum's, a restaurant apparently known for its desserts. This is "Job 1568: Blum's (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1953".

Martin Pal, did you spot this sign on the right?

LOL, yes I did HossC, even before I read that! I love it, and thanks for mentioning it in case I had not seen it!


Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7557615)
The Coffee Dan's was at 9561 Wilshire Boulevard. I think The Grill on the Alley is now in that building (their address is given as 9560 Dayton Way, the road behind) - the upright sign looks the same.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
GSV

Yes, HossC, The Grill on the Alley is now where Coffee Dan's was located. When you discovered interior shots of this Coffee Dan's in a previous post, I was surprised to discover it was where The Grill is now because I know someone who currently works there. The Grill on the Alley is a low key high-powered Hollywood hangout for producers, deal makers and the like, (there's several talent agencies and production company places in the vicinity), but also is frequented by other celebrities. According to my acquaintance it is also quite a small place. It's become even more crowded since another eatery with much the same clientele, that my friend worked at previously, closed, Kate Mantilini's. (It didn't have to.)

The picture you posted is not the entrance used for this place, it is around the back "on the alley" as it's name implies.

http://s3-media2.fl.yelpcdn.com/bpho...-vkXA/258s.jpgyelp

I have never been inside, even with a discount my friend could allow me to have I can't afford it! He rarely talks about, or brings up, any of the people who dine there, but if I ask "Anyone interesting been in lately" he will tell me.

Patrons of note in the last couple months have been:

Al Pacino, Clint Eastwood (my friend noted he was sitting next to an empty chair), Nancy Pelosi, Shirley MacLaine, Mel Brooks, John Kerry (with Secret Service), Kamala Harris (running for Senator), Steve Wozniak, two young marines in full uniform and Carol Burnett.

ethereal_reality Sep 11, 2016 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7557307)

e_r, I never knew about the Bergstrom estate.

Me neither FW....that is until yesterday.
For the home of such a well known architect, it seems rather elusive.

Besides that brief glimpse of the house at the beginning of the silent film 'The Grim Game', there seems to be only ONE other photograph of the house.
(the one I posted yesterday from John Cox's 'Houdini' Blog).

What bothers me most about the destruction of the Bergstrom Estate is that it was designed to survive earthquakes...it would have stood for years!

I bet it was a bitch to tear down.
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Now for that building across the street.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

BDiH, I also thought the Bergstrom Estate was the site of the old LA Press Club!
However, it was across the street on the NE corner of Vermont and Clinton.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/nDe2Oy.jpg
LAPL

FW, I noticed this building yesterday while I was snooping around the perimeter of the old Bergstrom Estate.

Here's the gsv I saved.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/FJgX3l.jpg
gsv

I was taken by how mysterious it looked, and would have bet money it was deserted (note the painted-over windows along the top)




And if you look closely, there's even graffiti spray painted on the walls.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/fZH6X5.jpg
detail



Here's a wider look at the place (also from Clinton street) -the view from Juanita Ave is mostly blocked by trees.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/DsEzPp.jpg


below: an aerial to give you an idea of the lay-out.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/dpM0zb.jpg
google_aerial
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Back to the Bergstrom Estate. (whiplash!)

A portion of the original Bergstrom Estate wall might have survived along Juanita Avenue!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/q8GHiv.jpg
gsv


close-up of bricks
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/US8aJ9.png




for comparison

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...921/P7i7IT.jpg
Fresh Paint [1919]

The bricks look about the same size don't ya think?
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p.s.

John Cox over at the Houdini blog noticed the old wall too. Here's his pic.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/dtdVr2.jpg
http://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2015...ame-house.html


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ethereal_reality Sep 12, 2016 1:41 AM

'mystery' location

-just happened on to this 1920 photograph on eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/lTUaNm.png
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1920...AAAOSw-kdXxino

Does anyone know where Florencita Park was? It doesn't ring a bell.

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ethereal_reality Sep 12, 2016 1:56 AM

'mystery' airport.

"1926 GLASS PLATE NEGATIVE AERO CORP OF CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES EXAMINER AIRCRAFT"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/WyGA9Z.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1926-GLASS-P...8AAOSwgZ1Xv2rF

Aero Corp of California was founded in 1926 by Jack Frye, Paul Richter, and Walt Hamilton. The LA Examiner, owned by William Randolph Hurst,
was a big promoter of Aviation. He offered $50,000. to the first pilot to cross North America in less than 30 days.



I believe there is writing on the building at right, but it's awfully small.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/OoFYdi.jpg[/URL]
detail

Did you notice the guy in the white shirt walking toward the plane?


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ethereal_reality Sep 12, 2016 2:32 AM

One last photograph for tonight.


"LOS ANGELES RAILWAY ~ DOWNEY AVENUE CABLE CAR ACCIDENT ~ c. - 1893"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/mYm16e.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...UAAOSwaB5Xv6Zo





The sign atop the cable-car says "Post Office - R.R. Depot - East Los Angeles"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/XaQRs6.jpg
detail



reverse.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/aeyNVj.jpg

BDiH Sep 12, 2016 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilberfan (Post 7557304)
Could you help me identify where the Biff's would have been? And whether it was still there in the Summer of 1996?

Years after Biff's in Reseda closed, Boogie Nights was filmed all over that area, including the famous scene in the car with Dirk Diggler. It was shot in the the drive way adjacent to the site.

BDiH Sep 12, 2016 3:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7557696)
LOL, yes I did HossC, even before I read that! I love it, and thanks for mentioning it in case I had not seen it!




Yes, HossC, The Grill on the Alley is now where Coffee Dan's was located. When you discovered interior shots of this Coffee Dan's in a previous post, I was surprised to discover it was where The Grill is now because I know someone who currently works there. The Grill on the Alley is a low key high-powered Hollywood hangout for producers, deal makers and the like, (there's several talent agencies and production company places in the vicinity), but also is frequented by other celebrities. According to my acquaintance it is also quite a small place. It's become even more crowded since another eatery with much the same clientele, that my friend worked at previously, closed, Kate Mantilini's. (It didn't have to.)

The picture you posted is not the entrance used for this place, it is around the back "on the alley" as it's name implies.

http://s3-media2.fl.yelpcdn.com/bpho...-vkXA/258s.jpgyelp

I have never been inside, even with a discount my friend could allow me to have I can't afford it! He rarely talks about, or brings up, any of the people who dine there, but if I ask "Anyone interesting been in lately" he will tell me.

Patrons of note in the last couple months have been:

Al Pacino, Clint Eastwood (my friend noted he was sitting next to an empty chair), Nancy Pelosi, Shirley MacLaine, Mel Brooks, John Kerry (with Secret Service), Kamala Harris (running for Senator), Steve Wozniak, two young marines in full uniform and Carol Burnett.

Much as I miss Coffee Dan's, and I do, there is no finer restaurant than the Grill on the Alley in Beverly Hills. Phil Spector dined there the night he had a Navy Grog at the old Trader Vic's and stopped at the House of Blues to pick up Lana Clarkson.

jbange Sep 12, 2016 5:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7557696)
I have never been inside, even with a discount my friend could allow me to have I can't afford it!

I used to do telecom work for Grill Concepts (the parent company) and have eaten at all their restaurants. I'd have to rate their food as "satisfactory, but not worth the price". It's basically upscale diner/american cuisine. The meatballs in their spaghetti don't have enough bread crumbs in them! As noted, it's mostly a place to be seen rather than a place to get really good food (unfortunately).

oldstuff Sep 12, 2016 2:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7553535)
'mystery' chair on roof.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/921/nP1i2E.jpg
https://hammer.ucla.edu/now-dig-this...d6f89557165842

Operation Teacup, an Easter weekend cleanup organized by the Student Committee for Improvement in Watts, 107th Street, Los Angeles, April 1965.

These small homes on the west side of 107th street are all gone now with one exception at the corner of 107th street and Graham Avenue.

-replaced by the Watts Towers Art Center.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/nq7kTa.jpg

As for the chair on the roof......I have no answer.


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Simon Rodia, worked on the towers for 34 years, beginning in 1921. He died in 1965, the year this picture was taken. Maybe the neighbor would sit up there and watch the progress on the towers. We don't know how long the chair was up there, but it is facing in that direction.

Another possibility was that someone would go up there with a level and make sure that the towers were straight, either Rodia or the neighbor....

Blaster Sep 12, 2016 2:47 PM

The lookout chair is mysterious. But what's the frame around it?

oldstuff Sep 12, 2016 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster (Post 7558255)
The lookout chair is mysterious. But what's the frame around it?

Something to hang onto, getting up and down? something to drape a tarp over for shade?

oldstuff Sep 12, 2016 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7557851)
'mystery' location

-just happened on to this 1920 photograph on eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/lTUaNm.png
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1920...AAAOSw-kdXxino

Does anyone know where Florencita Park was? It doesn't ring a bell.

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Still there. The neighborhood of Florence and Graham. A Blockshopper list of streets in the subdivision is:

Streets in Florencita Park Subdivision
Street Name Properties
East 67th Street 23
East 68th Street 39
East 69th Street 35
East 70th Street 31
East 71st Street 34
East Florence Avenue 7
Holmes Avenue 26
Wilmington Avenue

Martin Pal Sep 12, 2016 4:25 PM

:previous: Oh...I thought Florencita Park might have been the lady's name.
(Because she is standing in front of a house which isn't usually located in a park.)

ethereal_reality Sep 12, 2016 4:28 PM

Thanks for the information oldstuff. This is the first I've heard of Florencita Park.

Here's a second that just came up for sale (on eBay)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/gyDwFA.jpg

"Praying" huh? well maybe the one on the right who's gazing up at the lord's kingdom. (I believe the ladies are being a tad bit ir·rev·er·ent ;))

The lady on the left, who also appears in the first photograph, was caught in mid karate chop.
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I just realized they're on their knees. lol

ethereal_reality Sep 12, 2016 5:03 PM

re: the former Coffee Dan's location, now 'The Grill on the Alley'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7557696)

The Grill on the Alley is a low key high-powered Hollywood hangout for producers, deal makers and the like
(there's several talent agencies and production company places in the vicinity).

Martin Pal, I thought you'd find this chart from the Hollywood Reporter interesting.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/wZHOaP.jpg
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ltimate-676885


"A large part of the restaurant's success is its horseshoe layout, with 14 booths surrounding a central 'Siberia' of 25 tables,
meaning a third of the house is prime seating.

The late Bernie Brillstein nicknamed the largest corner rear booth (No. 133) "Devil's Island" since no regulars claim it.
Pamela Gonyea assigns the table, which can seat seven, to random larger groups.

The smaller booths along the side walls are just as prime, often preferred for their comparative privacy.
"Some people just want to be seen," explains Gonyea. "Others, they go: 'We don't care if we see anybody.
In fact, we'd rather not see anybody!' " While Silverman finds the side booths, which front on a narrow aisle, "a little claustrophobic,"
others like AFI chair Bob Daly "just like the privacy."

____________________________________________

I would no doubt be stuck at table #221 ;), ground zero in 'Siberia'.



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HossC Sep 12, 2016 7:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7557696)

The Grill on the Alley is now where Coffee Dan's was located.

Patrons of note in the last couple months have been:

... Clint Eastwood (my friend noted he was sitting next to an empty chair)

LOL. Just so long as no one was laughing at his meal. You see, his meal don't like people laughing ;).

By coincidence, today's Julius Shulman post shows the buildings across the street from The Grill on the Alley. This is "Job 6285: 9560 Wilshire Building (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1985". A note in the summary says "Photography credit to Carlos von Frankenberg." The first shows Bonwit Teller on the corner of S Rodeo Drive.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Here's the other end of the block on the corner of S Camden Drive.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The color images are virtually the same, but I thought I'd include them anyway. I've just noticed that the same battered white Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon appears in both pictures of this corner, but in different positions. Maybe the driver was looking for somewhere to park.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

I wasn't familiar with Drexel Burnham Lambert. Here's what Wikipedia has to say:

"Drexel Burnham Lambert was a major Wall Street investment banking firm which was forced into bankruptcy in February 1990 due to its involvement in illegal activities in the junk bond market, driven by Drexel employee Michael Milken."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The first floor of the old Bonwit Teller building seems to be occupied, but the blue and white signs say the upper stories are for lease. I'm sure the one-piece windows are more modern, but I prefer the old divided ones.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
GSV

This side is now Niketown, Dolce & Gabbana and Merrill Lynch, although there are also "For Lease" signs here.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
GSV

Finally, just across S Camden Drive is the building below on the left. It's trying hard to look classical, but it replaced the bank (below, right) which can just be seen on the right of the Shulman pictures. Does anyone have a better picture of the bank?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
GSV/Getty Research Institute


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