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I think it's likely that the Glidden Hotel building was not exactly at the corner of McCadden and Hollywood, but slightly further west on Hollywood Blvd ... right on the sight of today's parking lot. IMO, the Hotel Christie's own "white part" was not a section of the old Glidden, but a 1922 imitation of it: made to harmonize with the Glidden's facade. (In 1922, the Glidden Hotel building was converted into the "annex" of the new Christie Hotel building, so it would have made sense to esthetically harmonize the two.) Prior to 1914, the Glidden might have been owned by William B. Glidden, an early Hollywood resident (and successful Glendora citrus grower) whose massive, long-gone home was on 6065 Franklin Avenue. As late as 1920, Catalina Island had a Glidden Hotel in Avalon. |
The Hollywood Melrose Hotel by S. Charles Lee, 1927
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hollywood melrose hotel, 1927 by S. Charles Lee LAPL The building at 5162 Melrose Avenue is on the National Registry of Historic Places. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8015/7...fcd4cd20_z.jpg hollywoodhistorichotel II image from LACurbed In continuous operation over the years, as the Hollywood Melrose Hotel, the Monte Cristo Apartments and finally now as the Hollywood Historic Hotel (doubles from $49.00 per night, not bad when you consider you're almost directly across the street from Paramount). http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7...5e553d92_b.jpg hollywoodhistorichotel image by owner Apparently the owner operates the first floor furniture/design business and there's some gossip that the recent restoration cut a few corners. Personally I think it's a beautiful building and we're lucky someone owns it who is willing to maintain it. In the old days the first floor was occupied by several small businesses including, at the near end above at Wilton Place, a barber shop. This being two blocks from our house on Monroe Street is where my younger brother got his first store-bought haircut, by all accounts a somewhat traumatic experience. The Hollywood YMCA 1925 by Paul Revere Williams http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7...8d3483697a.jpg hollywood ymca by paul revere williams image by paulrwilliamsproject.org And this is where I (we) learned to swim. I first in 1948 and then my younger brother two years later at which time I was allowed to attend as an elder statesman of the swim program. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8152/7...7146fd42a5.jpg hollywood ymca, detail, by paul revere williams image by paulrwilliamsprojet.org http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7262/7...3affb19774.jpg hollywood ymca, balcony detail, by paul revere williams image by allanellenberger.com And here it is, still going strong after nearly ninety years, still putting out kids who can swim, hit a jump shot and lie through their teeth when necessary. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7129/7...ed4b2470_b.jpg YMCA image by googlestreetview |
One more thing about the Christie Hotel building. The facade was beautifully restored just recently ...
Before: The lower "white part" level of the building's terra cotta veneer had been ripped out or covered with stucco at some point, in a misguided attempt to 'modernize' the facade. http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...1279248317.jpg After: "Using detalied moldmaking techniques, [Restoration Arts] replaced the destroyed areas and restored any remaining covered details to reproduce the original facade, down to the new iron window components." http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...1279248353.jpg http://www.preservationarts.net/inde...r_photos2.html |
I'm up to page 284 of this INCREDIBLE thread and I just can't get enough. I was born in L.A. in '67 and raised in the San Fernando Valley. For me, there is no other place I'd rather be. I'm in love with this website I stumbled onto and blown away by all the pictures I've seen so far. I love the history of L.A. and the old buildings - some of which I actually have lived in during the 80s moving from the valley back to L.A. Currently, I work in a law firm in downtown L.A. right on Bunker Hill in California Plaza. I walk at lunch and have seen so much I've missed through the years. Now with this website - my walks have turned into history lessons. I LOVE THAT ALL OF YOU SHARE MY INTERESTS IN SOME OF THE FORGOTTEN HISTORY HERE. Special thanks to ethereal_reality, GaylordWilshire, sopas_ej and Handsome_Stranger - FABULOUS PHOTOS!! This site is THE BEST! Thank you!!
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[QUOTE=gsjansen;5153782]the buildings in the images are actually the back side of the buildings that fronted on new high street. they lost they're spring street back sides, when spring street was straightened.
1927 aerial http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-6917?v=hr Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-6917?v=hr the remainder of the buildings on new high street were gutted when the state building was constructed. 1931 aerial http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...DF739554A?v=hr Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...DF739554A?v=hr looking down new high street towards city hall in 1927. this image is taken from the exact location where the state building will be built in three years. all the buildings on the right, are the buildings with the spring street facades removed in your photographs E_R http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-36633?v=hr Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-36633?v=hr 1924, 1925 and 1929 aerials prior to street alignment and construction of city hall http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/...de7a363c_o.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/...54b2c6ce_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3406/...b7ee22a5_o.jpg the 1929 aerial shows proposed street alignment overlay for civic center[/QUOTE I very nearly truncated this post from gsjansen as my question/comments really only have to do with the last image of the post but the other images are so nice I thought it would be good to just leave them in. I hope this isn't a problem. I know some people are kind of sensitive about revisiting old posts. In any event, there was some discussion earlier in the thread about the suggestion by unnamed officials, around the time of Chinatown being cleared, making way for Union Station, that the current plaza is not really in its original, correct location. Someone posted a mid-nineteenth century map and indeed it did appear, at least on first blush, that the older map seemed to place the plaza west of Main Street. So now I run across this proposed grid for the downtown street realignment (last image) and I see a baffling traffic circle on Spring Street which for all the world looks like what would pass for 'a plaza' and the current Plaza (easy enough to find as the Brunswig Building is seen, placing the Pico House just across Main from it and, of course, the current Plaza would be just above that, all clearly on the east side of Main Street) doesn't appear to receive slightest acknowledgement by the proposed street realignment. What am I seeing? Am I over-thinking this? Could the Spring Street circle be just that, a traffic circle? Or are these early planners actually thinking about placing the official Plaza at the end of Spring Street? |
Pershing square through the prime noir years, starting in 1930. I know there's a few reposts in here but please forgive!
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011059.jpg LAPL Somewhere in the thirties...check out all those banana trees: http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066161.jpg LAPL Chilling by the fountain, April 6, 1937: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011062.jpg LAPL Along Hill Street by all those LARY busses, January 27, 1938: http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics36/00067826.jpg LAPL Love the noirish tree canopy...June 30, 1939: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011048.jpg LAPL Everyone's favorite Pershing pastime--listening to someone explain everything wrong with the world...September 9, 1939: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011055.jpg LAPL Another great photo with noirish undertones...December 1939: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011101.jpg LAPL July 4, 1942...what better way to drum up support for government bonds than put on a big show in ye olde towne square? http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics21/00045388.jpg LAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics21/00045390.jpg LAPL Or why not put some pretty gals in the Victory House, maybe Eva Gabor? Surely that'll get the money flowing in for Uncle Sam: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics22/00045532.jpg LAPL Or Carole Landis, who's showing a bit more skin than she intended to! http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics41/00055032.jpg LAPL Or how about that firecracker Carmen Miranda? http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics32/00050976.jpg LAPL Better yet, let's parade a whole gaggle of gals on a catwalk in front of a B-25: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics33/00051004.jpg LAPL Hanging Hitler and Hirohito, November 25, 1942: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics21/00045393.jpg LAPL March 15, 1943...this plane served its time early on in the Pacific Theatre and now gets all the glory back home: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics21/00045395.jpg LAPL Bringing in the heavy artillery to make sure those war bonds keep selling, August 21, 1944: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics21/00045389.jpg LAPL Or if guns won't make you open your purse, how about a little boy? December 8, 1944: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics22/00045538.jpg LAPL The war didn't get him but the postwar housing crunch will: this ex-Marine and his family had no choice but to set up shanty in the park...November 1, 1945: http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041413.jpg LAPL Another post facto reminder of how war upends life: an amputee (who looks an awful lot like Robert Mitchum) contemplates his future while two men take care of business...July 16, 1948: http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics40/00039787.jpg LAPL Elsewhere in the Square, more proselytizing. This man is quoted as saying, "You're all a bunch of lousy devils ... you make me sick." http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics25/00032474.jpg LAPL "Now listen friends, let me tell you...." http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics40/00039786.jpg LAPL Last for now, 1949 was the year plans got underway to redo the park and build an underground garage, and with that any trace of a noirish vibe--or a humane park for that matter--vanished. This sums it up quite nicely: http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9...9pershingt.jpg LAPL |
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I found one or to sites that suggested that this image came from a model that was commissioned by the L.A. Times in 1931, painstakingly constructed, and displayed at the Main Library, in connection with the 50th anniversary of the Times. An expert historian oversaw construction of the model, who I believe later relocated to the San Diego area. Below is a Times article that describes the anniversary model...it's not the story I was looking for and its width will force you to scroll, but it offers some info. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I realize this is a pretty lame reply and wish I could offer more facts. I'll go through my files and see if I can find any details about this. Though I've been taking a bit of a breather from posting I've thoroughly enjoyed everyone's posts the last few weeks. So much great stuff -- thanks everyone! http://wwww.dkse.net/david/DTLA.model.jpg |
I don't know what took me so long, but I finally got around to visiting the fully rendered Union Station in LA Noire. It turned out to be quite fruitful in the photo department and as I was looking through them I couldn't help but hear narration accompanying them.
Please, buckle up and pour yourself a drink as I do my worst Chandler impression: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7260/7...7e215f91_b.jpg Tuesday, Novermber 20, 1947 at 10:30 AM: The phone rang again as it ever does: man down in the fountain out front of Union Station. Four shell casings is the word from Homicide. They also nabbed some pills on his person, and that's where I--star detective on the Vice squad--make my appearance. I high-tailed it down there through the Plaza, literally. You see, when you've got the power of a two ton Studebaker and a pointy metal badge on your side, you don't really pay much attention to little white paint marks. Or curbs. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7276/7...3495cc6c_b.jpg Ferguson Alley seemed like a most expeditious choice en route from Central to Union. Oh, what's that you say? You're trying to sell your curios here? Sorry my Chinese chum, this little siren of mine says I CAN DO WHATEVER THE HECK I WANT. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8166/7...e5045fd2_b.jpg At the scene of the crime, I can't help but wonder: how did Union Station get so dirty in just eight years? http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7263/7...4b5668d7_b.jpg City Hall caught my eye, as it always does. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7...0099d2d4_b.jpg Another day, another death...and another dollar. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8016/7...d0d4e5e3_b.jpg This footage was so gruesome that we black-and-whited the film for your safety. Christ, look at all that blood! http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7251/7...9d5d87f3_b.jpg What did this poor sap get himself into? Getting shot in front of one of the busiest portals in the city during morning rush hour? Someone somewhere has one hell of a motive. Time to head inside and see what I can find out. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7...d8db27c9_b.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8165/7...15f2cfb6_b.jpg Golly there's some nice marble in here... http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8018/7...53252f4e_b.jpg You sir, surely you've heard about the death out front. What do you know about it? http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7258/7...3724efe8_b.jpg Your stonewalling isn't going to help you, sir. Either you give me information or I will make your life a living hell, you understand me? http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8024/7...ce703925_b.jpg The negro gave me a decent lead, so off to the courtyard I went, looking for some garbage allegedly left behind by the dearly departed. My instincts kicked in saying this would be a waste of time, and they were spot on: five minutes of decidedly unglamorous rummaging through a garbage bucket turned up zilch. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7140/7...2fccd2b7_b.jpg So further into the bowels of Union Station I went, hoping to come across anyone who could help account for this man's actions. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7111/7...cd98e0e4_b.jpg Maybe that guy over there. He looks like an employee... http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7113/7...308ac8b2_b.jpg He suggested I check out platform 8 North. Alas, 20 minutes down by the tracks produced nothing but figurative dead ends. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7...b6c59e5c_b.jpg So I went back out front and combed the scene of the crime once more. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7122/7...43f4e980_b.jpg A foreman said he saw an unidentified man with a tool of some kind--possibly a shovel--out on the far end of the yards near some gravel piles, so off I went. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7...53fe69af_b.jpg One of the piles showed obvious signs of having been recently carved up, but I couldn't find anything. Perhaps he wasn't placing something there but rather removing something? Had anyone else seen this man in the weeks or months leading up to now? The one thing I did find was a fresh looking ticket stub to a showing of "Out of the Past" at the RKO Hillstreet. Not much to go on but it's better than nothing. I'll have to drop by the theatre, but only AFTER I eat some goddamn lunch. You see, city hall looming in the distance once again made me take pause and made me realize it was well past noon, well past my usual liquid lunch hour.....time to get soused for the afternoon grind! All pictures copyright Rockstar Games |
I don't think I have seen El Mio mentioned here yet. This is at 5905 El Mio Dr. in Highland Park.
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http://blog.linder.com/pix/1928radiolisting.png From its window signs in your image, KTM was apparently picking up some bucks offering lessons in the then-new craft of motion picture sound recording. Found this "KTM Radio Station" shot here at Worthpoint, stamped 1937 on the back. Photographer: Weaver. Love the lightning bolt logo! Same place? Reflections of street lamps in the window seem to match. http://blog.linder.com/pix/ktm.jpg |
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What about the old Plaza fire station? That should be immediately on the right hand side of the car (as seen by the driver - not by us). http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1...china11949.jpg |
fhammon, you are correct on all counts: the Plaza area is pretty botched and is probably the most egregious example of what the game didn't get right. Also, Ferguson Alley is technically there but it looks nothing like it does in the photos we've all seen. Note how my post was heavy on images of Union Station and not that area.....
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If I remember correctly, the rooms look exactly the way they did in the 1930s. Have you had the opportunity to visit the penthouse OBF? -any photographs? below: The clock tower of the Oviatt Building and rooftop/penthouse area in 1937. http://imageshack.us/a/img403/1774/a...tower1937l.jpg http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5072591 _____ Also, thank you for sharing your memories of growing up in Los Angeles Michael Ryerson. -from your father's grocery stores & delivery boys to the Garden of Allah' to your brother's 'traumatic' haircut & swim classes at the 'Y'- All these childhood recollections are wonderful. Keep'em coming. :) ____ |
Does this snapshot conjure any memories? It was found in a Los Angeles centric photo-album on ebay.
http://imageshack.us/a/img713/6517/a...towntrolle.jpg below: A similar trolley ride saved by a family in Woodland Hills CA. http://imageshack.us/a/img266/3681/a...oodlandhil.jpg go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7AD2dYRa-M ____ |
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Here's a few treasures currently on eBay. In the source beneath each photo I'll link to the original eBay listing.
This photo taken by my Grandmother about 1915 in front of their store - "Hastings' Place" at the corner of Vermont Avenue and Hollywood Blvd. at the eastern end of the Southern Pacific Red Car line. Every Sunday, the merchants of East Hollywood would gather at my Grandfather's store with their autos, and give visitors to the area a ride to Griffith Park for 10 cents each - see sign in windshields of autos. Good for business and commerce in the area. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7...d648cbec_b.jpg [source: eBay] [Larger version of photo available here.] This photo taken by my Grandmother or Grandfather about 1917 in front of their store - "Hastings' Place" at the corner of Vermont Avenue and Hollywood Blvd. at the eastern end of the Southern Pacific Red Car line. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7257/7...fcb3607e_b.jpg [source: eBay] This photo taken by my Grandmother or Grandfather about 1917 in front of their store - "Hastings' Place" at the corner of Vermont Avenue and Hollywood Blvd. at the eastern end of the Southern Pacific Red Car line. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7268/7...6e0bb3a6_b.jpg [source: eBay] [Larger version of photo available here.] And the photo I was most excited to see: ca. 1931: Photo was taken on what is now Highway 14, the Sierra Highway, somewhere north of Red Rock Canyon and south of Little Lake. After the plank road ended in this area, the Midland Highway was a graded dirt road for the rest of this journey which conencted up with Highway 395 heading north into the Sierra Nevada and beyond. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7...63a92ba3_b.jpg [source: eBay] [Larger version of photo available here.] The same seller has a few more fantastic photos up for grabs. |
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