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emathias Jan 21, 2020 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV (Post 8806665)
One possibility is that the total rail ridership is unlinked trips, but the line totals are entrances at each station. So the 225 might somehow include people who enter on one line and have an in-system transfer to another?

Oh, yeah, now that you say that, I think I've read about linked vs. unlinked in CTA stats before, but I'd forgotten about it.

Thanks.

spyguy Jan 26, 2020 7:49 PM

Did anyone post the canopy renderings for the "Your New Blue" renovations at Grand, Chicago, and Division stations?
https://i.postimg.cc/26rGL7yP/Blue-L...-Rendering.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/mrx8BssZ/Blue-L...-Rendering.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/9fG1fnmd/Blue-L...-Rendering.jpg

Jim in Chicago Jan 27, 2020 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spyguy (Post 8812061)
Did anyone post the canopy renderings for the "Your New Blue" renovations at Grand, Chicago, and Division stations?
https://i.postimg.cc/26rGL7yP/Blue-L...-Rendering.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/mrx8BssZ/Blue-L...-Rendering.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/9fG1fnmd/Blue-L...-Rendering.jpg

They're very similar to those installed at the Red Line - at least as State/Harrison. Let's just be kind and say "they aren't aging well."

Busy Bee Jan 27, 2020 6:25 PM

Those look nice I just wish in locations where they have the space like the Polish Triangle @ Division, the island @ Chicago and the NW stair @ Grand they could have rebuilt the stair entirely and made them wider and generous and the canopy more substantial architecturally. Yes I realize this would cost more money.

KOgc Jan 27, 2020 6:38 PM

The structural steel component at the Grand Location is partially up already as of this last weekend. Don't think I saw the same at Chicago avenue quite yet, but they are working on two entrances there now.

bgsrand Jan 27, 2020 7:12 PM

Could have paid homage to one of the many schools or architecture Chicago is home to, and instead we got whatever this is...

Also, the last rendering appears to be the division stop but they recently reopened the stops with no modifications to the entrance.

Tom In Chicago Jan 27, 2020 7:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in Chicago (Post 8812644)
They're very similar to those installed at the Red Line - at least as State/Harrison. Let's just be kind and say "they aren't aging well."

My first thought was ~ oh yeah. . . one winter with salt and slush will make quick work of these shiny new facilities. . .

. . .

Busy Bee Jan 27, 2020 7:34 PM

Cheap in. Cheap out.

ardecila Jan 27, 2020 9:36 PM

They look fine to me... seems like they accomplish the goal of providing cover over the stairwells without blocking sightlines to the buildings beyond.

I can't speak to the condition of the one at State/Harrison, but I'm surprised at how well the bus shelters on Loop Link are doing. No design will stay immaculate on the tough conditions of Chicago's streets but these seem to be holding up.

Also, these new Blue Line shelters are definitely not a perfect fit, but a lot less of a stylistic contrast with the moderne design of the station platforms and mezzanines than the faux-Victorian shelters CTA used on the Red Line and on the Blue Line at Jackson/LaSalle. Maybe CTA finally figured out they already have stylish 1940s designs on the subway system that just need to be brought into the 21st century.

Chi-Sky21 Jan 28, 2020 2:35 PM

i have seen it many times with VTA structures, rust and falling apart after only a few years. For the amount of money they spend on these projects this should not be happening. I understand you are going to over pay due to corruption on these projects but i still expect them to hold up better.

k1052 Jan 28, 2020 3:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 8812955)
They look fine to me... seems like they accomplish the goal of providing cover over the stairwells without blocking sightlines to the buildings beyond.

I can't speak to the condition of the one at State/Harrison, but I'm surprised at how well the bus shelters on Loop Link are doing. No design will stay immaculate on the tough conditions of Chicago's streets but these seem to be holding up.

Also, these new Blue Line shelters are definitely not a perfect fit, but a lot less of a stylistic contrast with the moderne design of the station platforms and mezzanines than the faux-Victorian shelters CTA used on the Red Line and on the Blue Line at Jackson/LaSalle. Maybe CTA finally figured out they already have stylish 1940s designs on the subway system that just need to be brought into the 21st century.

From a style standpoint I have to agree this is an improvement over recent CTA work, also functionally much better than the open stairwells that presently exist. Time will tell how the glass holds up but even if it has to be replaced every 10 or 15 years there isn't an enormous amount of it.

bgsrand Jan 29, 2020 10:38 PM

Not sure where to post this, but does anyone know what is being built on the south side of I-290 just east of 1st Ave?

ardecila Jan 29, 2020 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bgsrand (Post 8815220)
Not sure where to post this, but does anyone know what is being built on the south side of I-290 just east of 1st Ave?

IDOT is rebuilding the pump station that keeps the Eisenhower expressway trench dry through Maywood and Bellwood... The current pump station dates to the 1950s and it sits too close to the expressway lanes, so it needs to be relocated before the Ike can be widened.

Might seem like a small project but it's actually pretty nuts, they're building a huge circular secant pile wall so they can dig down almost 70' without the Des Plaines River coming in. Picture the giant round shaft at the Spire site.

Unfortunately this massive work of civil engineering will be topped with a pump station building that belongs in Bolingbrook, precast panels with fake red brick. Truly awful compared to the subtle, Jetsons-ish pump station that exists now.

https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCT...1-1c7a1c384c22

https://i.imgur.com/ac1QcXK.png

https://i.imgur.com/aLXHADA.png

bgsrand Jan 30, 2020 1:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 8815244)
IDOT is rebuilding the pump station that keeps the Eisenhower expressway trench dry through Maywood and Bellwood... The current pump station dates to the 1950s and it sits too close to the expressway lanes, so it needs to be relocated before the Ike can be widened.

Might seem like a small project but it's actually pretty nuts, they're building a huge circular secant pile wall so they can dig down almost 70' without the Des Plaines River coming in. Picture the giant round shaft at the Spire site.

Unfortunately this massive work of civil engineering will be topped with a pump station building that belongs in Bolingbrook, precast panels with fake red brick. Truly awful compared to the subtle, Jetsons-ish pump station that exists now.

https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCT...1-1c7a1c384c22

https://i.imgur.com/ac1QcXK.png

https://i.imgur.com/aLXHADA.png

Knew someone would have the answer....defineitly a big job as there have been 3 or 4 caisson rigs onsite. What is the Ike Trench?

Chi-Sky21 Jan 30, 2020 2:47 PM

Great info as always, ardecila your new pic threw me off! Oh i can hardly wait for the Ike to be widened. Always boggled my mind that they had it narrow to 3 lanes. Even though when the project is going on the traffic will be HELL it will be worth it.

bgsrand Jan 30, 2020 4:11 PM

Is it confirmed being widened?

ardecila Jan 30, 2020 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bgsrand (Post 8815760)
Knew someone would have the answer....defineitly a big job as there have been 3 or 4 caisson rigs onsite. What is the Ike Trench?

The expressway is depressed along almost its entire length below normal ground level. If it wasn't pumped out constantly, it would turn into a lake (or river).

This pump station drains the western section of the expressway through Maywood, Bellwood, Broadview, and Westchester.

There's a firm plan to do the widening, just no money yet. In the meantime, IDOT is doing a few "advance projects" like this out of their usual budget. Of course, if a few more years go by with no money, they'll have to start the study process all over again since Chicagoland and its travel needs continue to evolve.

w.miles2000 Feb 4, 2020 9:17 PM

What the status of the cta new 7000 series

Busy Bee Feb 5, 2020 12:26 AM

https://www.liebherr.com/shared/medi...ca_img_710.jpg
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w.miles2000 Feb 5, 2020 9:20 PM

What the updates on the cta green line Damen/Lake station do anyone know when are CDOT going to start construction


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