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CityBoyDoug Jul 21, 2013 2:00 AM

Ballroom Days......
 
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belmont bob Jul 21, 2013 2:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6204792)
:previous: Thanks again jaco for the information on the 'Volunteers of America' in Boyle Heights.
I was hoping the building still stands.
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Nurse Shirley Gellman, what were you thinking?
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/5870/6uu6.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950-Ad-Fati...-/300937202795
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I smoked for 15 years and have been tobacco free for 37 years now…..I can’t even think of anything to say about the subject other than nurse Shirley Gellman probably died many years ago from lung cancer….. always glad I found the resolve to stop....

belmont bob Jul 21, 2013 2:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6204824)
Kids Lindy hoppin' & Flip-Floppin' it at the Balboa Ballroom, CA.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psb644f15f.jpg
V is for Vintage

Click link for some music of the era.

http://youtu.be/H-C9aC1jc-A

way to go Choppie and Pronto.......such wonderful names!!!

Flyingwedge Jul 21, 2013 4:38 AM

Oops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6204649)
apple blossom street makes me wonder if a section of the vineyard was set aside for an apple orchard.
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Wait a minute, it's not Apple Blossom . . .
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pscb8326e7.jpg
1888 Sanborn @ LAPL

It's Apablaza!
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps94835d60.jpg
1894 Sanborn @ LAPL

Were the guys at Sanborn playing charades?

3940dxer Jul 21, 2013 4:41 PM

Long time no see!
 
Forum friends, a belated (and very guilt ridden) hello!

I've missed this place and apologize for my long absence. Last year I was spending so much time exploring the wonders of Noirish Los Angeles (both this forum and the city itself!) that I was neglecting some things...then I lost two family members and suddenly my attention was focused elsewhere. I logged in a few times to browse new contributions but there has been so much new content...I felt I'd lost my momentum here and that it would take months to catch up.

Anyway, here I am, still alive and enjoying Los Angeles. My wife and I still do hikes and city walks, but our big thing lately has been bicycling around L. A., often at night. Naturally, we've passed by hundreds of buildings and places discussed here, and it's been interesting to re-experience these locales by night, by bike.

A couple of "new" (to me at least) areas have piqued my interest. Colorado Street in Eagle Rock has a lot of interesting noirish architecture and seems to merit exploration and research. There are some great old motels and restaurants that look like they're straight out of the 40's and 50's. Another area that really intrigues me is Santa Fe St., downtown, which I think has been covered here a bit. It seems to have a lot of interesting old buildings and I believe this is one of the oldest streets in DTLA. I would like to know more about it and if I can get of my butt and contribute here again, Santa Fe St. seems a good topic.

But for now I mainly wanted to reintroduce myself, and say hello to ER and my other friends here. I don't know if I'll ever get through all the pages that passed me by here but having re-appeared finally, I look forward to seeing at least some of what I've missed over the last year. Hi again, everyone!

ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2013 5:12 PM

:previous: Welcome back 3940dxer! It's great to hear from you again.

ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2013 5:44 PM

3940dxer, we have a fairly new member named Lorendoc who was inspired by your earlier posts on Lookout Mountain.
I thought you might like to see his posts. (maybe you have already)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15423

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15469

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15564



I posted this in your absence as well. -So glad you're back! :)
http://imageshack.us/a/img14/7492/vwqc.jpg
Los Angeles Daily Herald
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ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2013 9:54 PM

Driving up Broadway in the google-mobile I spotted a small sign in the back of a parking lot. Hmmm...what does it say? It looks like...
http://imageshack.us/a/img801/3816/jz9k.jpg
gsv


I couldn't believe my eyes. The sign does indeed say GIRLS!
http://imageshack.us/a/img844/3537/6cvj.jpg
gsv


-actually, it says GIRLS dance.
http://imageshack.us/a/img801/1108/7jrx.jpg
detail



Since the views from google-mobile are obviously limited , I drove over to Spring Street to try and get a better look.

As far as I could tell, the sign is on the back wall of 833 S. Spring Street.
http://imageshack.us/a/img534/329/ce47.jpg
gsv




On front of 833 S. Spring there's an even better sign, a large vertical DANCING girls sign.
http://imageshack.us/a/img11/3756/auz3.jpg
gsv

detail
http://imageshack.us/a/img694/5544/9rw3.jpg
time for some tuck pointing.






I noticed that something was engraved above the front entrance so I zeroed in. City something, clob?...or Club...maybe.
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/7537/1ll4.jpg

Notice the reverse side of the alley (GIRLS) sign is visible at right towards the back of the building.




In this aerial I've outlined the 'Dancing Girls' building, 833 S. Spring, in red. The old Avolon Ballroom site is outlined in yellow (there was a small parking lot in between).
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/5305/cbbx.jpg
google aerial




In this vintage view, 833 S. Spring Street is on the right.
http://imageshack.us/a/img802/4016/1pn8.jpg
ocdom

At this point in time the Avodon Ballroom building is still an Auto Park, and there's a small building where the parking lot will be.

detail. -showing the arched entrance of 833 S. Spring Street
http://imageshack.us/a/img839/8427/czkt.jpg



Armed with 'City Club' as search words, I eventually located http://doves2day.blogspot.com/.
The blog had excellent information on 833 S. Spring Street.

http://imageshack.us/a/img4/5526/wyxm.jpg
http://doves2day.blogspot.com/

833 South Spring Street was built in 1924 as the headquarters of the City Club, a Los Angeles civic organization with a membership of 2500 leaders of business, industry, and finance. But after less than 10 years, the City Club was gone. For the next 60 years it was home to numerous taxi-dancehalls.



fourth floor dining room. (later the Roseland Roof, among others)
http://imageshack.us/a/img42/3515/1j4l.jpg
http://doves2day.blogspot.com/



In this view, Los Angeles City Club is still painted on the south wall of 833 S. Spring. (just below the 5 globe street light)
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/5229/9owj.jpg
LAPL



City Club no more, now it's the Roseland Roof, circa 1939. (notice 'Roof' within the arched front entrance)
http://imageshack.us/a/img844/7475/9euj.jpg
LAPL


sex sells
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/869/zsi3.jpg
http://doves2day.blogspot.com/



Roseland Roof DANCING. That's Spring Street on the left and Main Street on the right, as viewed from 9th Street.
http://imageshack.us/a/img836/834/65q7.jpg




Eventually the City Club/Roseland Roof became the 41 Club, The Swanky, and the 833 Club.

as the 41 Club
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6196/avd7.jpg
http://doves2day.blogspot.com/

There's the term "White Spot" again. urgh!




One last look. 833 S. Spring Street today. A true survivor.
http://imageshack.us/a/img198/1058/w4z0.jpg
gsv

more to come....
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ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2013 10:56 PM

The Seven Year Itch at Grauman's Chinese Theater, circa 1955.
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/8959/1nhf.jpg
ebay
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Chuckaluck Jul 21, 2013 11:04 PM

Next time I visit, I will bring my dancing shoes. :previous: Nice sleuthing!



When dust was part of the landscape?

So many images are undated and/or poorly identified, making it difficult to determine whether they have been previously posted here. A few examples:

First Street looking west from Main (?) Date unknown.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5DQTGD3TGT.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5DQTGD3TGT.jpg


Plenty of room for Street Cars and Carriages.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...V3QIJ436PB.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...V3QIJ436PB.jpg



http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...84638C9QRB.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...84638C9QRB.jpg



http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...QSUDB622D4.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...QSUDB622D4.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...I4ED2JCXUE.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...I4ED2JCXUE.jpg

[IMG]http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...BRA2SPXY5F.jpg[/IMG]


Hotel Nadeau (Awfully familiar, but a search fails to reveal whether its been made part of this thread.)
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...6HMSB6YJHF.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...6HMSB6YJHF.jpg

Similar view - from http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1620 http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf7h4nb61n/hi-res
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf7h4nb61n/hi-reshttp://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf7h4nb61n/hi-res

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...45M94ENGSM.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...45M94ENGSM.jpg


Farmer's and Merchant's Bank?
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...BRC7CQLS49.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...BRC7CQLS49.jpg

http://waterandpower.org/Early_LA_Bu..._Bank_1923.jpghttp://waterandpower.org/Early_LA_Bu..._Bank_1923.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...2CBG91J4NR.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...2CBG91J4NR.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...AKJICCX9SS.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...AKJICCX9SS.jpg



Mystery Bldg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...CUKSYA8HK2.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...CUKSYA8HK2.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...B1RTBTNR5T.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...B1RTBTNR5T.jpg


Article: "Why doesn't Hope Go Through?" http://blogdowntown.com/2011/03/6199...s-state-normal

http://blogdowntown.com/ah/i/9b617b9...215/7133-l.jpghttp://blogdowntown.com/ah/i/9b617b9...215/7133-l.jpg

ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2013 11:15 PM

:previous: -Wonderful old photographs Chuckaluck.
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mystery location ---> pan right.
http://imageshack.us/a/img109/687/sd1q.jpg
found on ebay in May of 2013

I like the waving arm coming into the frame. (far left)
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Wig-Wag Jul 21, 2013 11:41 PM

The location is Los Angeles Railway's South Park shops, between 54 and 55th, Avalon and San Pedro streets. This is where new cars were built, old ones rebuilt and all forms of general upkeep and maintenance were performed.
Today the site is being developed into the South Los Angeles Wetland Park and Mary Angelou Community High School.

The car in the photo is a type "H", the first of which were built by St Louis Car Company in 1921. You can still ride one as a number were saved and 3 examples can be found at the Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris, CA.

See: http://metroprimaryresources.info/en...th-park-shops/

Also: http://foter.com/f/photo/3175676254/d56ef4c6cb/

Cheers,
Jack

ethereal_reality Jul 22, 2013 1:20 AM

:previous: Thank you Wig-Wag, but do you know who's arm that is? (just kidding ;)

Whenever I come across a photograph of an old Los Angeles transit car I know you'll come through.
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Albany NY Jul 22, 2013 1:52 AM

Cough, Cough.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6205491)
:previous: Thank you Wig-Wag, but do you know who's arm that is? (just kidding ;)) __

Actually, the arm belongs to Nurse Shirley Gellman. She was trying to wave down a streetcar that could take her to LA County General Hospital. Seems she couldn't stop coughing due to her 3-pack a day habit of lighting up Fatimas. I hear she eventually cut back to 2 packs a day, and lived to the ripe old age of 28. :haha:

ethereal_reality Jul 22, 2013 3:18 AM

:previous: lol. poor nurse gellman.
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alanlutz Jul 22, 2013 3:18 AM

Apparently Shirley isn't the only one endorsing Fatima Cigs: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3774/9...bd0152173b.jpg
Credits: Found image on Wikipedia on Fatima Cig Page.

CityBoyDoug Jul 22, 2013 4:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belmont bob (Post 6204826)
I smoked for 15 years and have been tobacco free for 37 years now…..I can’t even think of anything to say about the subject other than nurse Shirley Gellman probably died many years ago from lung cancer….. always glad I found the resolve to stop....

Good for you Belmont Bob. Etherial Reality posted that photo of the nurse and here we have a doctor hyping cigs. Times have changed.


My mom used to tell about the Lucky package color. Here its green. During WW II it became white because the green printer's color was need for the war effort. My mom would often tell me some unusual things. :???:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s0cc12170.jpeg

jaco Jul 22, 2013 5:28 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s0cc12170.jpeg[/QUOTE]



Almost looks like Dr. President Roosevelt pushing the smokes.

GaylordWilshire Jul 22, 2013 2:17 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n...2520AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8...2520AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-y...2520AM.bmp.jpg


Some great random film of Los Angeles in the '70s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alc5FQI76dM

ethereal_reality Jul 22, 2013 3:12 PM

:previous: Fun stuff GW!
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"Just the facts ma'am....just the facts."
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 6205598)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3774/9...bd0152173b.jpg
Credits: Found image on Wikipedia on Fatima Cig Page.


from the radio drama Pat Novak For Hire. (hilarious quote)

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/1339/dygn.jpg
http://oldtimeradiolover.com/jack-webb/



http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4923/r2vu.jpg
http://markmartinezshow.blogspot.com...acts-maam.html



The first black & white Dragnet television series ran from 1952 to 1959.
http://imageshack.us/a/img23/1417/8bew.jpg
http://oldtimeradiolover.com/jack-webb/

Note that all three of his television hits were L.A.-centric.
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http://imageshack.us/a/img28/3671/phb6.jpg
dragnet 1968


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