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Pedestrian Aug 13, 2020 8:10 PM
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Originally Posted by niwell (Post 9009204)
Even in Toronto we've had plenty of bars serve cocktails to go now (either a mason jar or a glass with ice with a cocktail poured into a 26oz bottle), and off-sales of beer/wine are officially permitted for the long-term. Even the City has officially changed their stance on public drinking from NEVER to not "involving excessive alcohol". All of this has seemed to continue despite patios opening up and some places allowing limited indoor seating. So, progress I guess!

It's actually been a pretty fun summer despite everything, though it's easier for me to say that having a regular job that's just shifted to work from home. As does most of my friend group.
The SF & East Bay Cocktail Takeout & Delivery Guide
All the spots that’ll help keep you drinking margaritas, negronis, and mimosas while you’re stuck at home.

I don't know about drinking in the park, but an awful lot of cannabis gets consumed in a place like Delores Park on weekends and there's almost no police presence so I'm pretty sure nobody would bother you.

https://s.abcnews.com/images/GMA/san..._16x9_1600.jpg
https://www.google.com/search?rls=en...v9dM-nEwfB3_AM

Pedestrian Aug 14, 2020 9:21 PM
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Coronavirus Lockdowns Usher In the New Roaring ’20s
By Allysia Finley
Aug. 14, 2020 2:25 pm ET

States with strict coronavirus lockdowns seem to be reliving the Roaring ’20s. Alcohol is legal in the 21st century’s version of Prohibition, but with restaurants, bars and other social spaces shut down, governors in California, New Jersey and New York are struggling to crack down on illicit summer soirees and speakeasies.

As in the 1920s, driving gatherings underground has encouraged other illicit behavior, including violence. Last week police busted up a party at a Santa Monica, Calif., mansion with hundreds of revelers that ended in a fatal shooting of a 35-year-old woman. Locals report that raves are frequent occurrences in the Hollywood Hills. At least two other parties in Los Angeles have resulted in gun violence.

“Since Covid, they’ve moved all the parties to the hills,” Sheila Irani, a member of the Hollywood United Neighborhood Council, told the Los Angeles Times. “The kids are going stir-crazy.” Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti last week said “these large house parties have essentially become nightclubs in the hills.” At least nightclubs have bouncers and security guards.

Some parties are merely virulent rather than violent. New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy has been grousing that illicit social gatherings are leading to a virus resurgence. Parties attended by teenagers in the suburb of Middletown have been linked to at least 55 cases, and a Long Beach Island party resulted in 35 lifeguards testing positive. Baywatch meets coronavirus.

On July 26 Jackson, N.J., cops spent five hours breaking up a party at a rented mansion with 700 guests. Its 23-year-old organizers from Newark had promoted the party on Facebook as a “Liberian Independence Day” celebration with a $1,000 twerking contest, free liquor pouches, jungle juice and Hennessy shots. Neighbors reported the house had hosted a party with some 500 people the night before.

Police earlier this month broke up a pool party at a mansion in ritzy Alpine, N.J., which NBC reported was owned by a personal-injury attorney. Guests reported spending $1,000 to attend. Shuttle buses dropped off hundreds of guests, many from New York City.

The party host said he was shocked, shocked that there were social-distancing and face-mask violations. “This is absolutely out of hand,” he told NBC. One partygoer was taken away by ambulance, so perhaps it’s lucky the host is versed in personal-injury law. Neighbors might also seek damages for creating a public nuisance . . . .

Blue-state politicians failed to learn the lessons of America’s failed experiment with liquor prohibition a century ago: Banning normal economic and social activity creates a black market. Dine-in restaurants and bars have never reopened in New York City or New Jersey and were allowed to open only briefly in California before Gov. Gavin Newsom closed them amid a virus resurgence.

Unemployment rates in the Northeast and California look more like the 1930s than the ’20s, but at least their underground party economies are thriving.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronav...&page=1&pos=15

mhays Aug 14, 2020 11:03 PM
This is probably a fraction of the Covid problem we'd have if bars were open.

Idiots exist. But at least it's not a large percentage of the population every day in bars.

As for the idiots, crack the hell down.

Pedestrian Aug 14, 2020 11:08 PM
^^

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isaidso Aug 15, 2020 2:00 AM
double post

isaidso Aug 15, 2020 2:02 AM
30 new cases of COVID-19 in the City of Toronto on Friday. It's outrageous that 6 months in we're still reporting new cases. With a supposedly closed border, consistent messaging (masks, 2m physical distancing, WHO protocols for hand washing), free access to hospitals for all, and $2000 monthly CERB cheques this should have been over in May.

There are simply too many loopholes, exceptions to protocols being tolerated, and too many non-compliant people. This is going to go on for many many more months because Ontarians just can't get it together. This failure is an economic catastrophe. If we're still recording 30 new daily cases in the spring our governments will be tapped out. They can't keep writing cheques indefinitely. The cheques are there to buy us time yet we're the window of opportunity is being squandered.

Mayor John Tory and Premier Doug Ford: enough with your incompetence. Smarten up or step aside.

Yuri Aug 15, 2020 10:58 AM
In São Paulo bars and restaurants are opened with reduced hours and all distancing measures for three weeks now. No spike in cases and ICUs occupation rate has been continuously dropping to 57% now.

I don’t believe in those “everything will be different” scenarios. Countless restaurants, bars will closed doors forever, but as soon as the vaccine comes up and economy resumes, people will be back.

Crawford Aug 15, 2020 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 9011230)
30 new cases of COVID-19 in the City of Toronto on Friday. It's outrageous that 6 months in we're still reporting new cases. With a supposedly closed border, consistent messaging (masks, 2m physical distancing, WHO protocols for hand washing), free access to hospitals for all, and $2000 monthly CERB cheques this should have been over in May.
This is a joke, right? 30 cases across 3 million people isn't a significant number. There are undoubtedly more daily injuries via car accidents.

Why would be there be 0 cases absent a vaccine, even if everyone were barricaded inside their homes?

Canada is obviously doing a great job.

iheartthed Aug 15, 2020 2:24 PM
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Originally Posted by yuriandrade (Post 9011393)
In São Paulo bars and restaurants are opened with reduced hours and all distancing measures for three weeks now. No spike in cases and ICUs occupation rate has been continuously dropping to 57% now.
What are the rules? Do they allow indoor service?

softee Aug 15, 2020 3:20 PM
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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 9011230)
30 new cases of COVID-19 in the City of Toronto on Friday. It's outrageous that 6 months in we're still reporting new cases. With a supposedly closed border, consistent messaging (masks, 2m physical distancing, WHO protocols for hand washing), free access to hospitals for all, and $2000 monthly CERB cheques this should have been over in May.
Only 16 new cases reported as of today, and there have been some days in recent weeks where the city was reporting new daily cases in the single digits.

Those are outstanding numbers for a city of 3 million, IMO.

homebucket Aug 15, 2020 3:58 PM
Quiet morning in the Ferry Building. Normally it'd be bustling by now.

https://i.imgur.com/Rn9QRhDh.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisc...erry_building/

iheartthed Aug 15, 2020 4:06 PM
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Originally Posted by homebucket (Post 9011494)
Quiet morning in the Ferry Building. Normally it'd be bustling by now.

https://i.imgur.com/Rn9QRhDh.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisc...erry_building/
I thoughts those two gray haired guys were carrying skateboards at first glance. I really wish they were.

Pedestrian Aug 15, 2020 7:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 9011504)
I thoughts those two gray haired guys were carrying skateboards at first glance. I really wish they were.
I thought they were too. Just across the street from there is an unofficial skateboard park (which the cops have tried to stop since the hardscape was installed but haven't been able to).

This is it:

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0214685226 Aug 15, 2020 7:26 PM
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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 9011504)
I thoughts those two gray haired guys were carrying skateboards at first glance. I really wish they were.
Haha, same here! My first thought was they just got done "shreddin' it, bro"! Guys of this age do shred, btw. Tony Hawk, one of the most excellent shredders of all time is 52 years old!

https://youtu.be/IuqcG5nl2dU
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Yuri Aug 15, 2020 8:36 PM
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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 9011441)
What are the rules? Do they allow indoor service?
They are restricted to a 6-hour service, clients must be sat, more space between tables, mandatory masks (which have been universally adopted by the public), hand sanitizers everywhere.

I went for a drink yesterday in one of my favourite bars nearby and I felt pretty safe. I want things to go back to normal quickly.

Pedestrian Aug 15, 2020 9:32 PM
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‘Crazy’ sales of camping gear in Bay Area as people flee to the mountains
Rusty Simmons
Aug. 15, 2020 Updated: Aug. 15, 2020 12 p.m.

With people searching for ways to get out of the house during the coronavirus pandemic, camping gear sales are going crazy.

Despite the mid-March shelter-in-place order, Sports Basement in Berkeley says it has already sold twice as many bear canisters — containers to keep food safe from the animals — this year than it did in all of 2019. REI says sales of products in its camping category are 30% to 100% higher than this time last year.

“Crazy is an accurate read,” said Paul Calandrella, REI’s general merchandising manager for camp products. “From early to mid-July, we have just been on a tear, selling literally across the category. There is nothing that is not hot right now.”

On the front porch at REI’s Berkeley location, a board lists out-of-stock items: mosquito head nets, bear canisters and toilet kits called Wag Bags. Among the products in limited supply are camp fuel, camp chairs, sleeping pads, dehydrated food, tents, coolers, stoves and water filtration equipment.

At Big 5 Sporting Goods in Emeryville, foldable outdoor chairs were gone — except for the display items. Camping fuel was sparse, tents had been picked through, and good luck getting a cooler.

Even online, the top four “essential campfire” items — three pieces of firepit hardware and a fuel-free lighter — were unavailable for pickup at Bay Area locations of Dick’s Sporting Goods. The extended reach campfire torch is available only in Pleasant Hill . . . .
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business...s-15485363.php

And up in the mountains, they are none too happy about it:

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Cabin fever meets Tahoe tension: ‘Not local? Not welcome!’
Jill Tucker and Alexei Koseff
Aug. 15, 2020 Updated: Aug. 15, 2020 11:28 a.m.

SOUTH LAKE TAHOE — If the walls are closing in but pandemic travel sounds a bit too sketchy, don’t worry, Lake Tahoe tourism honchos say. They have the answer.

“We’ll help you put your toe in the water — literally — here at Tahoe South,” according to the Lake Tahoe Visitors Bureau website. “Travel therapy is what you need.” And sure enough, throughout the summer thousands of travelers have been heeding that call and streaming to Tahoe’s hotels and rental houses for the solace and beauty of the Sierra Nevada.

But it turns out that all that travel therapy is now grinding on the nerves of some local folks.

A vocal contingent of area residents wants to rescind the invitation to visit, saying overnight and day visitors are bombarding the region, clogging roadways and leaving trash and the deadly coronavirus in their wake.

Locals across the region and other communities were planning protests Friday and over the weekend to lament the lack of enough infrastructure to handle the hordes. Beach trash bins have been overflowing and cars are parked illegally, they say. Masks and social distancing are often absent.

Yet even as concerned residents painted protest signs Friday morning, thousands of families looking to escape triple-digit temperatures across Northern California were loading their cars with bicycles and bathing suits for a weekend up at Lake Tahoe or Truckee . . . .
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...s-15485539.php

iheartthed Aug 15, 2020 9:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Centropolis (Post 9009218)
it was like yeah we are in the flyover but we ALSO do not have open container laws like puritan chicago or whatever and it’s legal to drink in a car.
I wish New York would get rid of these open container laws. I thought the pandemic would wipe them out, but doesn't seem like that will happen now.

MonkeyRonin Aug 16, 2020 1:19 AM
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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 9011230)
30 new cases of COVID-19 in the City of Toronto on Friday. It's outrageous that 6 months in we're still reporting new cases. With a supposedly closed border, consistent messaging (masks, 2m physical distancing, WHO protocols for hand washing), free access to hospitals for all, and $2000 monthly CERB cheques this should have been over in May.

There are simply too many loopholes, exceptions to protocols being tolerated, and too many non-compliant people. This is going to go on for many many more months because Ontarians just can't get it together. This failure is an economic catastrophe. If we're still recording 30 new daily cases in the spring our governments will be tapped out. They can't keep writing cheques indefinitely. The cheques are there to buy us time yet we're the window of opportunity is being squandered.

Mayor John Tory and Premier Doug Ford: enough with your incompetence. Smarten up or step aside.

Says you as an epidemiologist? I don't think you understand how pandemics work - I'm no expert either, but pretty sure you can't just eradicate a virus in a couple months. Literally no place in the history of global pandemics has done that. Even remote, isolated New Zealand is seeing a resurgence in cases after momentarily eliminating the virus.

Fact is, we currently have under 900 active cases and are averaging <1 death per day in a jurisdiction of 15 million people. Those are very good numbers.

10023 Aug 16, 2020 6:14 AM
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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 9011230)
30 new cases of COVID-19 in the City of Toronto on Friday. It's outrageous that 6 months in we're still reporting new cases. With a supposedly closed border, consistent messaging (masks, 2m physical distancing, WHO protocols for hand washing), free access to hospitals for all, and $2000 monthly CERB cheques this should have been over in May.

There are simply too many loopholes, exceptions to protocols being tolerated, and too many non-compliant people. This is going to go on for many many more months because Ontarians just can't get it together. This failure is an economic catastrophe. If we're still recording 30 new daily cases in the spring our governments will be tapped out. They can't keep writing cheques indefinitely. The cheques are there to buy us time yet we're the window of opportunity is being squandered.

Mayor John Tory and Premier Doug Ford: enough with your incompetence. Smarten up or step aside.
Is this a joke? 30 cases a day in a major city and you’re upset?

homebucket Aug 16, 2020 6:17 AM
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic. Or being intentionally daft to bait people into saying how great Toronto is doing?


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