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Phxguy Apr 15, 2020 8:23 PM

Went for a short walk downtown today, I figure any news is good news:

Hance Park revamp is well underway with much of the west end closed off and construction vehicles actively working. This is for the playground, though I’m not sure if they’ll be working on other improvements for the park master plan.

Link Phase 2 is working on the 4th floor

A new bike repair shop opened next to the new tattoo place in the Carly’s building.

Tons of workers on the roof of the bar next to Matt’s Big Breakfast.

The Berger/Sunbelt Holding Project (now the ‘Edith’) at Central/Adams is headed to DRC soon, they are really pushing for construction on this one and soon.

ASU Diablo Apr 15, 2020 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 8894652)
Went for a short walk downtown today, I figure any news is good news:

Hance Park revamp is well underway with much of the west end closed off and construction vehicles actively working. This is for the playground, though I’m not sure if they’ll be working on other improvements for the park master plan.

Link Phase 2 is working on the 4th floor

A new bike repair shop opened next to the new tattoo place in the Carly’s building.

Tons of workers on the roof of the bar next to Matt’s Big Breakfast.

The Berger/Sunbelt Holding Project (now the ‘Edith’) at Central/Adams is headed to DRC soon, they are really pushing for construction on this one and soon.

Thanks for update and excellent news on "The Edith". Did we ever get a final height and rendering for the project?? Last rendering differed greatly from the initial proposal and sounded like it would go through some additional changes??

biggus diggus Apr 15, 2020 8:40 PM

The bike shop is the guys who owned Slippery Pig, they were locked out of their location at montecito and 7th Avenue a couple of months ago and this new shop will be repairs only, no sales. I would say it's a highly unintelligent choice to open given their rent costs and proximity to a full service and established bike shop but I wish them well.

Phxguy Apr 15, 2020 8:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo (Post 8894662)
Thanks for update and excellent news on "The Edith". Did we ever get a final height and rendering for the project?? Last rendering differed greatly from the initial proposal and sounded like it would go through some additional changes??

I’ve seen a few renderings of street perspectives and site plans but nothing that shows the whole building. The site plan I have from March 24th indicates it’ll be 17 floors, 231 feet.

ASU Diablo Apr 15, 2020 8:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 8894677)
I’ve seen a few renderings of street perspectives and site plans but nothing that shows the whole building. The site plan I have from March 24th indicates it’ll be 17 floors, 231 feet.

Would you be able to share the latest site plans or post screenshots of them? :cheers:

Phxguy Apr 15, 2020 8:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo (Post 8894684)
Would you be able to share the latest site plans or post screenshots of them? :cheers:

Sure! I can post them later, they’re a bit small but I’ll make the best of it.

gymratmanaz Apr 16, 2020 12:33 AM

I never did hear what is going on on the south side of the convention center, where they have been working for months???

ASU Diablo Apr 16, 2020 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gymratmanaz (Post 8894834)
I never did hear what is going on on the south side of the convention center, where they have been working for months???

Light rail work and permanent underground shoring wall

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Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 8894687)
Sure! I can post them later, they’re a bit small but I’ll make the best of it.

Awesome thanks!

Phxguy Apr 17, 2020 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo (Post 8894836)
Awesome thanks!

ASU Diablo, here's a few of the site plans. Nothing spectacular, but it shows how the structure will address the corner.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d3a4997a_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d0f8f346_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1d9746de_b.jpg

Obadno Apr 20, 2020 6:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 8896640)
ASU Diablo, here's a few of the site plans. Nothing spectacular, but it shows how the structure will address the corner.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d3a4997a_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d0f8f346_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1d9746de_b.jpg

For sure looks better than the last rendering but still not as nice as the OG

CrestedSaguaro Apr 20, 2020 9:59 PM

Some minor updates since I have not been downtown in a week.

1. ECO Phx finally has a trailer and some trucks onsite. Looks like work is about to commence on it.
2. Both AC Hotel and Wexford are topped out.
3. Link 2 is flying. Elevator core is already up to 6th floor with 3 floors completed.
4. X has completed 11 floors with elevator core up to the 13th floor. Starting to look big when walking down Van Buren.
5. Derby is also flying along. The Angels mural is starting to become completely blocked. This is the only part I hate about Derby. I've always liked the mural regardless of how I feel about the business, c'est la vie.
6. Aspire is about to go above ground level.
7. ASU is on 4th floor.
8. Adeline is on the 5th floor.
9. Minor work going on for O'Neil/Fore residential. Only 1 bulldozer was onsite when I walked by. Hopefully it ramps up the pace.
10. The Fillmore is starting to rise above ground.

exit2lef Apr 20, 2020 11:42 PM

Interesting post from CityLab about the value of balconies during the pandemic. Thankfully, we don’t have the type of strict lockdown implemented in Italy, Spain, and France where bicycling is banned and walking is limited to a short distance from one’s home at certain times of day. If ever that did happen here or if I were high-risk enough to not want to go out at all, having a balcony would be essential to retaining my sanity.

https://www.citylab.com/life/2020/04...g-laws/610162/

In terms of how this relates to the thread, I remember a while back someone posted that Kenect has no balconies. I wonder if tenants are going to be more reluctant to rent without that amenity in light of the current situation.

CrestedSaguaro Apr 21, 2020 3:23 PM

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Originally Posted by exit2lef (Post 8899385)
Interesting post from CityLab about the value of balconies during the pandemic. Thankfully, we don’t have the type of strict lockdown implemented in Italy, Spain, and France where bicycling is banned and walking is limited to a short distance from one’s home at certain times of day. If ever that did happen here or if I were high-risk enough to not want to go out at all, having a balcony would be essential to retaining my sanity.

https://www.citylab.com/life/2020/04...g-laws/610162/

In terms of how this relates to the thread, I remember a while back someone posted that Kenect has no balconies. I wonder if tenants are going to be more reluctant to rent without that amenity in light of the current situation.

Yup, I posted about Kenect not having balconies. Fortunately pre-leasing doesn't begin until around July and Kenect is still a good 6 months out from opening. So I'm not sure it will be a big issue by then. At least I hope not.

biggus diggus Apr 21, 2020 3:28 PM

You're over thinking this. If someone can't afford a balcony they get a place without.

ASU Diablo Apr 21, 2020 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro (Post 8899284)
Some minor updates since I have not been downtown in a week.

1. ECO Phx finally has a trailer and some trucks onsite. Looks like work is about to commence on it.
2. Both AC Hotel and Wexford are topped out.
3. Link 2 is flying. Elevator core is already up to 6th floor with 3 floors completed.
4. X has completed 11 floors with elevator core up to the 13th floor. Starting to look big when walking down Van Buren.
5. Derby is also flying along. The Angels mural is starting to become completely blocked. This is the only part I hate about Derby. I've always liked the mural regardless of how I feel about the business, c'est la vie.
6. Aspire is about to go above ground level.
7. ASU is on 4th floor.
8. Adeline is on the 5th floor.
9. Minor work going on for O'Neil/Fore residential. Only 1 bulldozer was onsite when I walked by. Hopefully it ramps up the pace.
10. The Fillmore is starting to rise above ground.

Nice update Ronnie! And good news about ECO PHX. This is one I really wanted to see get going and then hopefully once McKinley Court wraps up, Residences on 2nd can get started.

CrestedSaguaro Apr 21, 2020 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus (Post 8899897)
You're over thinking this. If someone can't afford a balcony they get a place without.

He wasn't discussing the affordability of a balcony. He was commenting on if people would want a place without a balcony at a time when no one can go outside due to covid-19.

Also, strange this topic came up at this moment. Here is an article article about getting people back downtown once this is over and Kenect is specifically mentioned as a watching point whether people will start signing leases this summer with an epidemic on our hands.

https://www.bisnow.com/phoenix/news/...ix-back-103975

CrestedSaguaro Apr 21, 2020 4:19 PM

Haven't been checking permits much lately, but got around to checking a few projects today. These may be something, may be nothing.

Permit was submitted to Phoenix for a fire hydrant flow test for the proposed Central Park development on the 14th. These are usually submitted not long before construction starts to ensure they have enough water pressure during construction. No other permits were submitted though. So only taking this with a grain of salt.

Central Station submitted a civil place holder and inventory permit on the 4th. Also taking this with a grain of salt as no other permits have been submitted. However, glad to at least see some permitting going on though during this epidemic. Gives me some hope that not all is lost just yet ;)

exit2lef Apr 21, 2020 5:10 PM

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus (Post 8899897)
You're over thinking this. If someone can't afford a balcony they get a place without.

Or they make other tradeoffs like choosing an older building, leasing a smaller place, or settling for a less conveniently located apartment in order to be able to afford a balcony. As result, I’m not overthinking at all but instead suggesting that a balcony might become a more valuable amenity that affects the appeal of an apartment more now than ever before.

biggus diggus Apr 21, 2020 5:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro (Post 8899924)
He wasn't discussing the affordability of a balcony. He was commenting on if people would want a place without a balcony at a time when no one can go outside due to covid-19.

Yes, I read his comment and yours. I am competent to read the English language.

If someone wants to live downtown in a high rise and balcony buildings are out of their price point the'll make do. It's no different than a garage, pool, soaking tub or any other feature. If you can't afford it you don't get it.

gymratmanaz Apr 21, 2020 6:08 PM

Biggus is correct. Everyone can't have everything.


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