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mrnyc Oct 1, 2022 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9747471)
These Kawasaki R211 delays are bonkers.

On a side note did anyone read that absurd story about south shore Staten Islanders complaining about these radio poles? They talk about them like they are highrise buildings. People are so stupid.


yep — the news is mta backed down a bit with shorter posts — although nobody knows why they insist on that system instead of what lirr and mnrr use, which doesn’t require those kinds of poles:

https://www.silive.com/news/2022/09/...hborhoods.html

TowerDude Oct 1, 2022 9:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 9748280)
yep — the news is mta backed down a bit with shorter posts — although nobody knows why they insist on that system instead of what lirr and mnrr use, which doesn’t require those kinds of poles:

https://www.silive.com/news/2022/09/...hborhoods.html

Staten Island Railroad isn't heavy rail, its just a subway line.

ardecila Oct 1, 2022 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 9748432)
Staten Island Railroad isn't heavy rail, its just a subway line.

It looks like a subway line at first glance, but it is regulated by the FRA like freight and commuter railroads (and PATH).

I don't know why they don't bring it over to FTA jurisdiction like the subway - I assume there is some backwards logic to keeping it in the weird limbo, but nobody's ever explained why except <historical reasons>.

Busy Bee Oct 1, 2022 10:29 PM

^ I think it has something to do with the fact that up until relatively recently some freight was moved on the SIR. It also used to have multiple grade crossings. The FRA jurisdiction may also be a lingering leftover from when the line was part of the B&O. In any case it's obviously time to transfer reg authority to FTA.

mrnyc Oct 2, 2022 4:17 PM

^ yes afaik that is the reason -- its just legacy.

as for the new sir communication system, obviously somebody sold that to them and they arent backing out of it to use the system the others use and which works just fine. that would be smarter and more consistent. of course mta and sir would say well they won the bid, but sorry to be cynical its probably corruption.

the resident complaints are overblown though. its not like staten doesnt have antenna towers and monopoles:


westerleigh
https://www.silive.com/resizer/HnJ8Z...3829-large.jpg

mrnyc Oct 3, 2022 4:42 PM

lol i saw this on eaterny -- and no surprize its via big alice my fav local brewery (along w/carton brewing in nj) -- :cheers:


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202_Cyclist Oct 4, 2022 12:04 AM

The possibilities for Shore Line East

CT Mirror
By Jim Cameron
Oct. 2, 2022

https://i0.wp.com/ctmirror-images.s3...g?w=1000&ssl=1
One of the new M8 trains at the Old Saybrook station. (Photo via the CT Mirror)

"Imagine taking a train… a one-seat ride… all the way from Grand Central Terminal to the sandy shores of Mystic. Or connecting there for a quick run up to the casinos.

Such a thing should be possible and may yet happen… if Shore Line East gets its act together.

Shore Line East is the state-owned commuter line from New Haven to Old Saybrook that opened in 1990 in anticipation of heavy traffic delays on I-95 during reconstruction of the Q Bridge. Initially it was only rush-hour service… west to New Haven in the morning and back east in the evening..."

https://ctmirror.org/2022/10/02/the-...horeline-east/

mrnyc Oct 4, 2022 12:15 PM

^ i would love better rail service along the route to providence. since we got rid of our wheels as it is we usually ride to stamford and rent a car when we weekend out that way.

mrnyc Oct 4, 2022 12:20 PM

lirr gets all the gravy —


Third’ time’s the charm: MTA finishes $2.5 billion LIRR Third Track project

By Kevin Duggan
Posted on October 3, 2022


The MTA finished its $2.5 billion Third Track project to add another set of rails along nearly 10 miles of the Long Island Rail Road, Governor Kathy Hochul announced Monday.

The nearly four-year scheme will free up congestion along the LIRR’s busy Main Line between Floral Park and Hicksville on Long Island and cut delays and disruptions on the railroad, according to officials.

The added capacity also allows for more so-called reverse peak trips east from the city in the morning and west in the evening, once the MTA opens a new LIRR terminal below Grand Central on the East Side of Manhattan at the end of the year.


more:
https://www.amny.com/transit/mta-fin...r-third-track/

Busy Bee Oct 4, 2022 7:45 PM

^ Modest real estate acquisition dialed way back from initial planned scope... Rebuilt stations/platforms... Replaced bridges... Upgraded traction power infrastructure...

That said, I cannot be the only one that thinks 250 million + per mile seems extraordinarily high for an above ground main line expansion/modernization project... Are they including some ESA expenses in there like M9 rolling stock or other things?

Innsertnamehere Oct 4, 2022 8:52 PM

$250 million a mile for an at grade, single mainline rail track? That's nuts. Toronto is just finishing up double tracking 9 miles of track on one of it's commuter rail lines, including basically three new stations with all new platforms, access tunnels, parking lot reconfigurations, etc. for $188 million USD, or about $21 million a mile.

I mean I know NYC is expensive to build in, but holy moly!

https://www.infrastructureontario.ca...ille-Corridor/

mrnyc Oct 4, 2022 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere (Post 9751196)
$250 million a mile for an at grade, single mainline rail track? That's nuts. Toronto is just finishing up double tracking 9 miles of track on one of it's commuter rail lines, including basically three new stations with all new platforms, access tunnels, parking lot reconfigurations, etc. for $188 million USD, or about $21 million a mile.

I mean I know NYC is expensive to build in, but holy moly!

https://www.infrastructureontario.ca...ille-Corridor/



via the article:

The project came in $100 million below the original $2.6 billion budget, which Lieber attributed in part to combining the design and construction work under one contract, also known as design-build.

“This project is being delivered on time and $100 million under budget, thanks to design-build contracting and many other new and innovative project management strategies,” he said in a statement.

:haha:

Busy Bee Oct 5, 2022 12:43 AM

I would imagine a design-build contract might "save" I don't know 10-15-20 million, but $100,000,000? Has anyone ever heard of 100 million spent on design/engineering services?

mrnyc Oct 5, 2022 12:47 PM

waaat? yo!


https://youtube.com/shorts/HYCZ-EGTbFc?feature=share

Busy Bee Oct 5, 2022 1:22 PM

Those are 10 foot leaps on either side of the unused center platform at 59/Columbus Crcl. Nothing to sneeze at but a superhuman this does not make. Also seems like some guerilla promo for something.

mrnyc Oct 6, 2022 9:52 PM

MTA faces $4.6 billion budget gap in just 4 years: state comptroller

By Stephen Nessen
Published Oct 6, 2022 at 3:47 p.m


The MTA’s internal projections forecasting a $2.5 billion deficit in 2025 may actually underestimate the agency's dire financial future, according to a new analysis by the state comptroller.

With ridership levels still far below pre-pandemic levels and inflation on the rise, the MTA could have an operating deficit of $4.6 billion by 2026 unless the agency finds a new way to bring in money, state Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli wrote.


more:
https://gothamist.com/news/mta-faces...te-comptroller

https://cms.prod.nypr.digital/images...jpegquality-60

mrnyc Oct 15, 2022 1:49 PM

interesting —-



Car, air traffic in NYC almost at pre-pandemic levels, but transit continues to lag: report

By Ben Brachfeld
Posted on October 12, 2022


Transit ridership in the Big Apple continues to languish at around 60% of pre-pandemic levels, even as car and air travel have rebounded almost completely to Before Times rates, according to a new report from City Comptroller Brad Lander.


more:
https://www.amny.com/transit/car-air...to-lag-report/

mrnyc Oct 17, 2022 7:07 AM

somebody bought maybe the last available vintage redbird subway car —


https://www.amny.com/transit/redbird...-for-new-home/

Busy Bee Oct 17, 2022 1:21 PM

One of the most frustrating things with any transit agency is their reluctance to offer for sale retired railcars to the public. Even if they couldn't sell them all to people to convert to cabins, offices, interesting architectural additions like those tube cars in London on top of the building, I would imagine they would make a lot more money than just signing some scrap contract or dumping them in the ocean for reefs. Not only that the Redbirds worked as artificial reefs because they're carbon steel. They found out the stainless steel cars don't work so well. It's extremely unfortunate they didn't offer any R-32 cars, an extremely well designed and iconic design, for sale instead seeing nearly the entire fleet hauled to Ohio to be shredded. What a shame. On a side note i always thought it would be really cool to have a retired and restored B division subway car(s) for a seating area flush with the floor inside a new JFK terminal.

mrnyc Oct 19, 2022 2:06 AM

they want rail not a queensway highline park:



Rockaway pols, advocates call for rail ‘link’ instead of mayor’s proposed QueensWay park

By Ben Brachfeld
Posted on October 10, 2022


Residents of the Rockaway peninsula are incensed at the Adams administration’s decision to fund a linear park along a long-disused rail spur in Queens, and say the right-of-way should be used as a new subway connection for some of the city’s most aggrieved straphangers.


more:
https://www.amny.com/transit/rockawa...ueensway-park/

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