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tovangar2 Jul 10, 2015 2:28 AM

Bullocks Wilshire
 
Thank you so much ProphetM. Your photographs are gorgeous.

What a revelation to see many of the spaces all-but-empty and the Sportswear Room set up as office space.

My all-time favorite store.

Thanks again.

CityBoyDoug Jul 10, 2015 4:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7090389)
Thank you so much ProphetM. Your photographs are gorgeous.

What a revelation to see many of the spaces all-but-empty and the Sportswear Room set up as office space.

My all-time favorite store.

Thanks again.

Too bad this gorgeous building is not more used and seen.

tovangar2 Jul 10, 2015 4:44 AM

Bullocks Wilshire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7090470)
Too bad this gorgeous building is not more used and seen.

But, it's super-cared-for, useful to the school and they have open-houses, so I'm happy :-)

ProphetM Jul 10, 2015 5:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7090389)
Thank you so much ProphetM. Your photographs are gorgeous.

What a revelation to see many of the spaces all-but-empty and the Sportswear Room set up as office space.

My all-time favorite store.

Thanks again.

They may seem all-but-empty, but I think they actually get a good bit of use - This is Southwestern Law School's Library as well as administrative offices. The open house occurs on a Sunday so the school is of course closed. There are a great number of tables for studying and many, many books. There are meeting and presentation rooms, a mock courtroom in the former accessories department, and the Louis XVI Room is used for special functions. The cafeteria & Tea Room are used by the staff & students.

The first, second and fifth floors were the most original portions of the building and the self-guided tour focused on those. The third and fourth floors house mostly administrative offices and as these floors had long since lost their 1929 accoutrements, they had a greater opportunity to remodel, and they did a wonderful job creating modern yet harmonious throwback-style designs.

I have gone back and updated my post with captions - apologies for my glaring oversight!

The full set of photos I took last year is available beginning here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1045306...65241832055122

There are 200+ photos, all fully captioned. Just use the right-arrow to go forward. Feel free to post any to the thread that you would like. You should be able to right-click and select 'Copy image URL' or similar depending on your browser, and post it directly here with the normal IMG tags.

The full album overview is here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1045306.../2014SonyPart4

Bullocks Wilshire takes up the final 1/3 of the album; the rest contains photos from an LA Conservancy walking tour in downtown LA, Victorian homes on Carroll Ave., and a few from other areas such as Little Tokyo, Chinatown, the Farmer's Market area, Wilshire Blvd., Colorado Blvd. near Pasadena City College, and a bit more. Again, feel free to post here any pics you find interesting. :)

Martin Pal Jul 10, 2015 6:08 AM

Southwestern Law School used to have two tour dates a year where the tours of
Bullocks Wilshire were guided and afterwards you would have a luncheon in the Tea
Room and the last tour of the day was a High Tea, both taken from the original Bullocks
Wilshire menu.

Well, they still do this, but to attend you have to be one of the "Friends of Bullocks
Wilshire" members, meaning you contribute a certain amount that helps continued
restoration projects and educational programs. You need to be a member to be
inivted to those, and also pay the fee to attend.

I attended one of those about ten years ago before they started the benefactor system
and had lunch in the tearoom, with white tablecloths and the works, etc.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2/DSC02186.JPG ProphetM

ProphetM, did you happen to take a photo of the beautifully colored/tiled water
fountain that was restored, just outside the tearoom above? That's something I particularly remember. Thanks for posting these beautiful photos.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...2/DSC02074.JPG ProphetM

I got to see this mural again last year when I was in the neighborhood and snuck through
the electric gate as it was closing. It's one of my favorite things in the city to look at!
This back entrance of Bullocks Wilshire was used in the film Topper as the entrance for
the Sea Breeze Hotel. I've been trying to locate a sceengrab of it, but as yet have not.

Guided or self-guided, it's worth it if one has the inclination. Looks like they're having a
special evening tour of the place for members this year with a cocktail reception held in
Mr. Bullocks former suite with exclusive access to the tower.

A friend of mine told me that Angela Lansbury used to work in this store when she was
first in Hollywood and years later requested an episode of her TV series be filmed in
there, too.

ProphetM Jul 10, 2015 6:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7090539)
ProphetM, did you happen to take a photo of the beautifully colored/tiled water
fountain that was restored, just outside the tearoom above? That's something I particularly remember. Thanks for posting these beautiful photos.

You're welcome! And yes:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-N...2/DSC02205.JPG

Noircitydame Jul 10, 2015 6:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7090273)
Lots of soldiers in uniform from these 1940's color slides, but I haven't seen any sailors...?

Here's some b&w photos of this corner at different times:

1939
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/HB-219.jpgTorrence/Hollywood Photographs

1965
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/HB-314.jpgTorrence/Hollywood Photographs

1972
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/HB-420.jpgTorrence/Hollywood Photographs

1976
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/HB-500.jpgTorrence/Hollywood Photographs

1979, just east of Ivar
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/HB-564.jpgTorrence/Hollywood Photographs
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A few other search terms: Hollywood Blvd. at Ivar
Broadway-Hollywood
Lerner Shops
Chandler's Shoes
Furs by Mannis
Leed's
Hi-Rite Drugs
Victoria Discount
Sir George's Smorgasbord

:previous: thanks for that on Audie.
I have that other At Ease book, too. It’s just as nice as the first one.

Maybe the sailors were down the block at the 7 Seas?

That 1939 photo above shows the remodel of 6336 underway for Chandler's. They opened there by May 1939. Before 1934 that had been a separate building, with a branch of Whetheryby-Kayser shoes then I. Magnin leased it and remodeled it as part of their larger store alteration. So, then it went back to being a seperate space.

This shot from the early '30s shows 6336 when it was still Whetherby-Kayser
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/00039153.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics39/00039153.jpg

Nancy’s: after Magnin's moved out, the rest of the space got a moderne remodel in Sept. 1939. It was there until at least Sept 1954 when the founder, Betty Blanc, died. Her daughters were Nancy and Mimi (the former Nancy's space in the Palmer Building became Mimi's). I have the impression B.B. owned this piece of property all along and had leased it to Magnin’s.

Next to Chandler's, that little French style building at 6324-6332 was built or totally remodeled in late 1931 by Morgan & Clements. There were 4, later 5 storefronts. Albert Sheetz's candy shop & restaurant at 6324 was the longest tenant, from 1932 to 1957. Columbia (the apparel half of Eastern Columbia) had been in 6328 but moved out around 1940.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...sheets6324.jpg
c. 1934-35. CSL

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...eetz1-9-41.jpg LAT 1-9-41

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...eetz1-6-57.jpg LAT 1-6-57

Then 6320, the little Deco Roos Brothers. It was there by 1929 until they closed and auctioned everything off in Feb 1946. It was totally remodeled and had become a Lerner’s Shop by 1958.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...oos2-10-46.jpg LAT 2-10-46

Back to corner of Ivar: The Thrifty Drug, designed by S Charles Lee- opened Nov 22, 1935. If you didn't feel like moseying all that way down to Sheetz's you could eat pretty well in their Fount N' Grill.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ill1-17-43.jpg 1-17-43

It was remodeled and became a Leed’s Shoes in Dec 1957.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...le/12-2-57.png LAT 12-2-57

They moved there from 6434, which had been the old Chandler's, from 1936 to 1939. Chandler's over at 6336 did a remodel in Feb-March 1958- no coincidence I'm sure.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...lerremodel.jpg 3-2-58

Speaking of Leed's, it's out of season, but shows the 6600 block with Cinema Sports Center bowling alley & gym at 6624 discussed recently, partly blocked by one of the trees. That was Leed's old-old location before moving to 6434.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...belle/6624.jpg 1948
pintrest


** yes, the sign E-R pointed out next door does say Lutheran Services Center. It was at 6356 as of a 1943 and I think gone by 1945 (It was in the building that housed the Schwab’s menswear shop).**

Martin Pal Jul 10, 2015 7:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 7090541)

5th Floor elevator lobby drinking fountain, Bullocks Wilshire, LA

We posted about the same time above and, after I did, I saw your link to
all the other Bullocks Wilshire photos, so I went on the tour. So many great
ones! I was just coming back to post this one, LOL! Thank you, I love it!
:yes:

tovangar2 Jul 10, 2015 7:54 AM

Bullocks Wilshire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7090539)
This back entrance of Bullocks Wilshire was used in the film Topper as the entrance for
the Sea Breeze Hotel. I've been trying to locate a sceengrab of it, but as yet have not.

There's kind of a fuzzy copy of "Topper" (1937) on YouTube.

The Motor Court:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N...23022%2BAM.jpg

Roland Young chauffeuring an invisible Constance Bennett:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k...23047%2BAM.jpg

Roland Young and Irving Bacon with the "Seabreeze Hotel" signage:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...23238%2BAM.jpg

Three wonderful character actors: Frank O'Connor, Eugene Pallette, Irving Bacon interact in the Motor Court:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W...23926%2BAM.jpg
YouTube

Wasn't the Motor Court designed so one could drive into it and leave one's car with the valet? If that's the case, when did that end? The old usage configuration was, at some point, somewhat awkwardly blocked with planters, etc.:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l...13757%2BAM.jpg
gsv
Form(?) function(?)
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r...20757%2BAM.jpg

Thank you ProphetM for all the gorgeous detail shots. I see now there was more activity there that day than I realized.

fifth-floor elevator lobby:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S...14632%2BAM.jpg

dining room:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...14658%2BAM.jpg

clock, Sportswear:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...14840%2BAM.jpg

vent:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T...14855%2BAM.jpg

last 5 pix: ProphetM

CityBoyDoug Jul 10, 2015 3:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7090485)
But, it's super-cared-for, useful to the school and they have open-houses, so I'm happy :-)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29604
Re: Bullocks Wilshire store.

Sorry, it appears that everyone disagrees with me. Evidently my assessment was way off the mark.

Doug: ''You need to look at things more closely.''http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psaghqa6dc.jpg

CityBoyDoug Jul 10, 2015 3:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7090545)
:previous: thanks for that on Audie.
I have that other At Ease book, too. It’s just as nice as the first one.

Interesting and very nostalgic for 1941. We do not see this lineup of food choices these days in restaurants. People's tastes have dramatically changed.

Halibut is not even that available today due to overfishing and environmental problems.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...eetz1-9-41.jpg
previously posted

tovangar2 Jul 10, 2015 3:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7090803)
Sorry, it appears that everyone disagrees with me.

Oh, please don't say that. I think different view points and perceptions are what makes life interesting. I never meant to imply that yours aren't valid. I was just yakking. I think you have a wonderful eye. You're the best :-)

John Maddox Roberts Jul 10, 2015 5:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7090824)
Interesting and very nostalgic for 1941. We do not see this lineup of food choices these days in restaurants. People's tastes have dramatically changed.

Halibut is not even that available today due to overfishing and environmental problems.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...eetz1-9-41.jpg
previously posted

Note that they offer buttermilk, something you never see today, much to my wife's dismay. But many more people back then were raised on farms, where buttermilk was a staple.

Wig-Wag Jul 10, 2015 5:59 PM

Locomotive Art
 
[QUOTE=ProphetM;7090339]For those of you interested, I just received a mailer from the Southwestern Law School announcing this year's open house of Bullocks Wilshire. It will be happening on Sunday, August 2. Start times begin at 10:30am in half-hour increments to 1pm. The cost is $25.

The required reservations will be taken beginning on July 15 at 10am, by calling 213-738-6814. Reservations close at 6pm on July 30. Free parking on-site.

I went to the open house last year with my daughter and it is really an amazing place. The start times are mainly just a way of keeping a handle on the number of visitors; you are free to roam about the place after checking in.

Here are a few pics I took last year...

ProphetM, I thoroughly enjoyed your photo tour of Bullock's Wilshire. When I was last there it was still operating as a department store and what I found fascinating in your photos is how much of the original details remain and the level of restoration.

When I came across your photo below, I thought you might enjoy a bit of trivia. The seam locomotive entering the photo from the left is an extremely accurate rendering of a Northern Pacific Railway Z-5 Yellowstone. Talk about a state of the art mural for the time, this was it!

"The Z-5 Yellowstones were two locomotives under one boiler, these were the largest locomotives in the world when delivered in 1928. They eliminated the use of two locomotives on the head-end of freight trains on the Yellowstone Division in eastern Montana and western North Dakota. The 2-8-8-4 was first built for the Northern Pacific Railway in 1928." (Wikipedia)

http://www.american-rails.com/yellowstone.html

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...psnz6agyku.jpg

Photo by ProphetM.

Cheers,
Jack

ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2015 6:48 PM

I recently came across this snapshot of a train wreck in Pasadena, circa 1905.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/3S3RSw.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/07k3La.jpg
eBay

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tovangar2 Jul 10, 2015 6:58 PM

Pasadena train wreck 1905
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C...15543%2BAM.jpg
pinterest

Still looking for the news reports.....

ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2015 7:00 PM

:previous: Good find t2. your photo includes buildings. (buildings = clues) :)



I believe this is the first color image of the French Village on NLA.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/DG09Za.jpg
eBay

The traffic's pretty heavy heading into Cahuenga Pass.









detail / slightly larger
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/XLGTZq.jpg







from an earlier post by Martin_Turnbull.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/TT24tv.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24515

:previous: That's just an amazing photograph isn't it. wow!

Flyingwedge Jul 10, 2015 7:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7090545)

This shot from the early '30s shows 6336 when it was still Whetherby-Kayser
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/00039153.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics39/00039153.jpg

Not to copy 3940dxer or anything (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28330), but since NCD posted such a nice photo looking west on Hollywood Blvd. from Vine toward Ivar, here are screen shots from W. C. Fields' Man on the Flying Trapeze (1935), which was filmed on the same block (a large crowd has gathered on the corner). Fields' car is in front on the left:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...e.jpg~original

It's hard to tell from this blurry copy, but it appears to actually be Fields, not a double, driving the car as the cop pulls him over. After this the film cuts to Fields making a left turn; the curb he pulls up to is at the studio, not on Vine:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...s.jpg~original

Here's that block today:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original
GSV

After acquiring several tickets, Fields is again on his way but then gets a flat and loses his spare tire down a steep hill. I have no idea which one:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original

Then the tire rolls onto a train trestle. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that this is on the way out to Glendale; perhaps someone will recognize it:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...z.jpg~original

Just as Fields is about to get hit head-on by the streetcar, the tire jumps over to the other track and Fields follows it there:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original

But then a train comes up behind him:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.jpg~original

Just before Fields is run down from behind by the rear-projected train, the tire jumps back to the other track and finally rolls off the bridge:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original

Screen caps by me from DVD.

ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2015 7:17 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/I4lOu7.jpg
eBay

Whitney Heights? -note the Hollywood sign stills spells out Hollywoodland.

ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2015 7:35 PM

"1924 Original LOS ANGELES Photo WEST ADAMS STREET Palm Trees California."


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/LAY2nC.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-Origina...item35ed552aaf

Does anyone recognize this apartment building?

Ed Workman Jul 10, 2015 7:43 PM

Then the tire rolls onto a train trestle. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that this is on the way out to Glendale; perhaps someone will recognize it:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...z.jpg~original

Just as Fields is about to get hit head-on by the streetcar, the tire jumps over to the other track and Fields follows it there:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original

But then a train comes up behind him:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.jpg~original

One track has overhead wires, the other does not
So I would put the parallel tracks in the San Fernando Valley, west of Lankershim.
The PE bridge was washed away by flood 1938?? and both RRs used the SP track, with trolley wires added thereafter
The SP line was not the mainline, but a branch line that left the main at Burbank and rejoined it at Chatsworth

JScott Jul 10, 2015 7:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7091197)
Does anyone recognize this apartment building?


The Holton Arms.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=26284

Martin Pal Jul 10, 2015 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7091147)
I believe this is the first color image of the French Village on NLA.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/DG09Za.jpg
eBay

The traffic's pretty heavy heading into Cahuenga Pass.

Another fatastic color photo E_R! I'm going to go through withdrawls when you're out of them!

Looks like something going on at the Hollywood Bowl with all the people coming (or going?) there. Might account for the traffic.

Martin Pal Jul 10, 2015 8:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7090566)
There's kind of a fuzzy copy of "Topper" (1937) on YouTube.

Thanks so much for the screengrabs from Topper tovangar2! I believe Topper
was the first feature film they colorized in the '80's. So the color is probably
"fiuzzy", too!

___

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7090545)
Maybe the sailors were down the block at the 7 Seas?

LOL!

And the "ads" you posted highlight the fact that some businesses are around for a scant amount of time and others move around a time or two. A new restaurant near me opened and closed in 3-4 months recently.

I love the shoe ad with the woman telling her husband: "Tranquilize Horace..." Great!

And thanks for this opposite angle photo of the Goodrich Gym and the bowling alley mentioned recently.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7090545)
Speaking of Leed's, it's out of season, but this shows the 6600 block with Cinema Sports Center bowling alley & gym at 6624 discussed recently, partly blocked by one of the trees. That was Leed's old-old location before moving to 6434.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...belle/6624.jpg 1948
pintrest


Martin Pal Jul 10, 2015 8:17 PM

Googie's and Schwab's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7090824)
Interesting and very nostalgic for 1941. We do not see this lineup of food choices these days in restaurants. People's tastes have dramatically changed.

Halibut is not even that available today due to overfishing and environmental problems.

When I was growing up HADDOCK was a fish always in plentiful supply and I've rarely seen it anywhere nowadays.

There's alot of discussion in L.A. about the Googie style restaurants disappearing
or being threatened (like Jan's and Norm's) and whether it's due to developers
wanting the properties (because they're surrounded, usually, by parking lots)
or because people's tastes have changed, as you said, in wanting to eat the
kind of food served by these restaurants.

I happen to love these kinds of restaurants and they're disappearing at a pretty good clip, if you ask me.

Speaking of, here's a photo I don't believe I've seen here before and, at
the moment, I don't feel like searching, heh!


https://images.fineartamerica.com/im...s-archives.jpgMichael Ochs Archives

The article this photo references has a comment by one person that says:
"I believe that is James Dean and his best friend Maila "Vampira" Nurmi clowning around at Googie's."

There was no date or other info accompanying the photo.

ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2015 9:43 PM

After all these years on NLA I finally located a good photograph of the interior of La Rue Nightclub on Sunset.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/GHLHVq.jpg
Looks like it had a swinging monkey motif.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/9CSdPP.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item1a02c0d7b6

There are several movie people in the photo. The first one I picked out was Burgess Meredith....and that famous character actor at far right (I can't think of his name).
I believe the short woman with the black hair near the column is perhaps......Colleen Moore?
And I think I see Walter Huston as well (two people to the right of 'Colleen Moore')


I posted this 1954 La Rue ad several years ago.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/d6IwtJ.png
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/537/d6IwtJ.png[/IMG][/URL]
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/forum/...ostcount=20033


The building still stands. :)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/ghYiCI.jpg
gsv


Earlier post by HossC with several images of the exterior of La Rue in the 1940s.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20038







this has been posted before but I enlarged it. (that's the world famous Trocadero across the street)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/EQ51wU.jpg

MichaelRyerson Jul 10, 2015 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7091390)
After all these years on NLA I finally located a good photograph of the interior of La Rue Nightclub on Sunset.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/GHLHVq.jpg
Looks like it had a swinging monkey motif.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/9CSdPP.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item1a02c0d7b6

There are several movie people in the photo. The first one I picked out was Burgess Meredith....and that famous character actor at far right (I can't think of his name).
I believe the short woman with the black hair near the column is perhaps......Colleen Moore?
And I think I see Walter Huston as well (two people to the right of 'Colleen Moore')

Robert Morley on the right. Burgess Meredith looks as though he thinks the evening may turn out to be a success, as was his reputation.

Flyingwedge Jul 10, 2015 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 7091216)

One track has overhead wires, the other does not
So I would put the parallel tracks in the San Fernando Valley, west of Lankershim.
The PE bridge was washed away by flood 1938?? and both RRs used the SP track, with trolley wires added thereafter
The SP line was not the mainline, but a branch line that left the main at Burbank and rejoined it at Chatsworth

Thanks Ed! Now that you mention it, the area certainly looks more like the San Fernando Valley than Glendale.

tovangar2 Jul 10, 2015 11:52 PM

Pasadena train derailment 1905
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7091134)
I recently came across this snapshot of a train wreck in Pasadena, circa 1905...
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Los Angeles Herald, 4 August 1905

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V...31835%2BPM.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...31715%2BPM.jpg
cdnc

Los Angeles Herald, 2 October 1907

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...31025%2BPM.jpg
cdnc


P.S.

Was the derailment near Library Park?

1903 Pasadena Birdseye:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d...62332%2BPM.jpg
loc

CityBoyDoug Jul 11, 2015 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7091242)
Another fatastic color photo E_R! I'm going to go through withdrawls when you're out of them!

Looks like something going on at the Hollywood Bowl with all the people coming (or going?) there. Might account for the traffic.

Hollywood Bowl Easter Sunday?

Also, many restaurants list a certain fish. When its placed on the table, it could be anything. People don't know how to ID many fish species.
Once I ordered Halibut but some mystery white fish arrived. My Mom said to forget it. Oh well.

CityBoyDoug Jul 11, 2015 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7090863)
Oh, please don't say that. I think different view points and perceptions are what makes life interesting. I never meant to imply that yours aren't valid. I was just yakking. I think you have a wonderful eye. You're the best :-)

Sometimes I say strange things.....its nothing personal. :blink: We're still meilleurs amis.

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2015 1:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7090545)
Maybe the sailors were down the block at the 7 Seas?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/TH9g21.jpg
eBay

By coincidence, I came across this a few weeks ago on eBay NCD.
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John Maddox Roberts Jul 11, 2015 1:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7091587)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/TH9g21.jpg
eBay

by coincidence, I came across this a few weeks ago on eBay NCD.
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Ah, those seraphim, the sailors.

ProphetM Jul 11, 2015 1:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 7091427)
Robert Morley on the right. Burgess Meredith looks as though he thinks the evening may turn out to be a success, as was his reputation.

Is that Agnes Moorehead attached to his arm? (or am I just out of my depth, being so much younger than most of you folks?)

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2015 1:24 AM

:previous: I think that woman is .....how do I say this kindly?....a bit prettier than Agnes Moorehead. (not that Agnes Moorehead ever wanted to be considered 'pretty')
now that dashing lad just above her head is kinda' pretty. ;)

That said, how old do you think I am ProphetM?
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Thanks for digging up the information on the 1905 Pasadena train wreck tovanger2. -I appreciate it.

ProphetM Jul 11, 2015 1:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7091602)
:previous: Nah, I think this woman is .....how do I say this kindly?....a bit prettier than Agnes Moorehead. (not that Agnes Moorehead ever wanted to be considered 'pretty')

Now that dashing lad just above her head (in the background) is kinda' pretty. ;)
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How old do you think I am ProphetM?

I have never tried to nail down anyone's age here, but there are a lot of comments that allude to childhoods in the 1950s & 60s, and earlier, and/or adulthood in the 70s and earlier. But I did say "most", not all of course. :)

It's hard to find decent photos that show what I mean, but Agnes Moorehead was pretty pleasant to look at in her youth, when she wasn't busy acting dour. Moreso when her hair was down.
In any case, there is something familiar about her.

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2015 1:42 AM

:previous: Whoever she is PM, she's having a grand time!! -like most everyone else in the photograph.

ProphetM Jul 11, 2015 2:07 AM

Hmm, it might be Ethel Merman.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r...%252529_01.jpg
Screen cap (or promo shot?) from Alexander's Ragtime Band (1938), via doctormacro.com

Noircitydame Jul 11, 2015 2:50 AM

Hollywood & Vine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7091272)
I happen to love these kinds of restaurants and they're disappearing at a pretty good clip, if you ask me.

I do too, and always try to eat at them if I can find them.

Found some sailors- not at the 7 Seas after all, but down the block at Hollywood & Vine.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...2997e5245c.jpg
here

And these buddies:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...vy-buddies.jpg
here

Loitering at this corner some more: all of these pictures were taken on a summer day, August 1944, by Life photographer John Florea and appeared (much cropped) in the Sept 4, 1944 issue. Maybe some have been here before but I like having them all together and seeing the people in the background (women, kids and older men mostly) and little details. All from here


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...cc_landing.jpg Order Clerk Yvonne French

•Lady with the dog over the news vendor’s shoulder.
•Sign pointing south down Vine to the Hollywood Victory House. Like the Victory House in Pershing Square, a central place to buy & sell war bonds. It opened in the forecourt of Graumann’s Chinese in May 1942, then moved to Hollywood & Vine, not sure where exactly.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...36_landing.jpg Window stylist Cecilia Fiala

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...b1_landing.jpg Singer Carolyn Grey


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...f0_landing.jpg Singer Marilyn Hall

•Adorable. Love her slacks and saddle shoes.
•Man in uniform walking by.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...36_landing.jpg Students Joianne Breckenridge and Gloria Jones.

•The stylish man in the 10-gallon hat. Most of the (few) men in these shots are bareheaded, as are a lot of the women- especially the younger ones.
•The news vendor’s hat & coat on the lamp post.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...0b_landing.jpg Secretary Jane Yaeger

•Girl in the white snood has serious wedge envy or something.
•The peasant blouse-skirt-wedge look Jane and the girl behind her are sporting, a sort of very toned-down Carmen Miranda influenced style- was ridiculously popular all through the war years for summer casual-when fashion turned to south of the border for inspiration.

CityBoyDoug's mom wears a similar kind of outfit in the darling family photo he posted here: 27172

As seen on some NLA regulars:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ayworth-42.jpg Rita http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/ava.jpg Ava

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...belle/jinx.jpg Jinx

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...0Yvonne_01.jpg Yvonne

tovangar2 Jul 11, 2015 3:31 AM

La Rue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 7091591)
Is that Agnes Moorehead attached to his arm? (or am I just out of my depth, being so much younger than most of you folks?)

Maybe Paulette Goddard? She and Meredith were married from '44 to '49.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-O...82526%2BPM.jpg
silverscreenoasis

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p...83509%2BPM.jpg
ebay (detail) previously posted by e_r

...and Robert Morley was married to Gladys Cooper's daughter, Joan Buckmaster from 1940 to 1992:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-y...85220%2BPM.jpg
(credit as above)

But, if the woman above is Hedda Hopper as Otis Criblecobis relates below, that would at least explain why someone would be wearing a hat in a nightclub!

LOL, I'm terrible at this.

Otis Criblecoblis Jul 11, 2015 4:11 AM

Our Guesses
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7091390)
After all these years on NLA I finally located a good photograph of the interior of La Rue Nightclub on Sunset.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/GHLHVq.jpg
Looks like it had a swinging monkey motif.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/9CSdPP.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item1a02c0d7b6

There are several movie people in the photo. The first one I picked out was Burgess Meredith....and that famous character actor at far right (I can't think of his name).
I believe the short woman with the black hair near the column is perhaps......Colleen Moore?
And I think I see Walter Huston as well (two people to the right of 'Colleen Moore')


I would agree with these identifications, and with whoever said (I can't verify it from here) that the lady next to Burgess Meredith is Ethel Merman. The man to the left of Ethel is Victor Moore. The Man to Meredith's left is, I believe, Teddy Hart. I'm thinking that perhaps the lady next to Morley is Hedda Hopper.

My wife says the man to the possible Miss Hopper's right is Douglas Fairbanks Sr, and she further maintains that the couple sitting at the table with backs to the camera is Robert Taylor and Barbara Stanwyck.

sadykadie2 Jul 11, 2015 5:09 AM

Does anybody know why Google Maps doesn't show "Street View" anymore? Does anybody know how to get a street view anymore?

sadykadie2 Jul 11, 2015 5:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7087937)
If I remember correctly this fine looking 'neo-classical' bank with the six ionic columns was located in Santa Monica.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/ZvLzX6.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/1pgZTV.jpg
old file of mine / probably from the Huntington Collection.

:previous: I can't quite read the bank's name. -something O....ending in ark.






built in 1902.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/hyses6.jpg
detail





there was also an Edison Electric Co. store in the bank building.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/iNgBDY.jpg
detail







*did you notice the sleeping dog? ;)

Well, then, allow us to let sleeping dogs lie ;)

haiku99 Jul 11, 2015 5:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6927238)
:previous: Here's some beach-side rigs looking a little more noiry:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...92224%2BAM.jpg
My Gun is Quick (1957) Parklane Pictures for United Artists / youtube

Just saw the movie, a VERY cheesy Mike Hammer film but very much noir and some great shots of L.A. including Bunker Hill...anyway FWIW currently on Netflix streaming in good quality video and sound and well worth watching.

Otis Criblecoblis Jul 11, 2015 8:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7091272)
There's alot of discussion in L.A. about the Googie style restaurants disappearing
or being threatened (like Jan's and Norm's) and whether it's due to developers
wanting the properties (because they're surrounded, usually, by parking lots)
or because people's tastes have changed, as you said, in wanting to eat the
kind of food served by these restaurants.

I happen to love these kinds of restaurants and they're disappearing at a pretty good clip, if you ask me.

I think the truth of the matter is that with the accelerating newyorkification of our fair city, land is becoming too valuable for freestanding restaurants to abide much longer. It's not just coffee shops that are going away; here in Pasadena, the always-crowded Beckham Grill, a nice restaurant and a local institution, has lost its lease and is closing early next month, no doubt to be replaced by yet another high-density mixed-use development.

I guess this is what progress is, but I sure don't like it.

CityBoyDoug Jul 11, 2015 1:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 7091770)
Does anybody know why Google Maps doesn't show "Street View" anymore? Does anybody know how to get a street view anymore?

Click on the little yellow man in the lower right of the screen and drag it to where you want to see the ''street view''. It still works.

tovangar2 Jul 11, 2015 4:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haiku99 (Post 7091795)
Just saw the movie, a VERY cheesy Mike Hammer film but very much noir and some great shots of L.A. including Bunker Hill...anyway FWIW currently on Netflix streaming in good quality video and sound and well worth watching.

The locations used in "My Gun is Quick" were delightful. There's more screenshots here and here of some highlights.

Mike Bray, who played Mike Hammer in the film, had a career that lasted from the post-war years to the late 60s. From 1964 until 1968 he had a part on the "Lassie" TV series which made him relatively well-known. Prior to "MGIQ", he did a memorable turn as the bus driver in "Bus Stop" in 1956.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7091272)
There's alot of discussion in L.A. about the Googie style restaurants disappearing
or being threatened (like Jan's and Norm's) and whether it's due to developers
wanting the properties (because they're surrounded, usually, by parking lots)
or because people's tastes have changed, as you said, in wanting to eat the
kind of food served by these restaurants.

LA.curbed has been closely following the fight to save Norm's on La Cienega. Their series of articles is here. Norm's exterior (not the interior) has a bit of a reprieve at the moment.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w...15521%2BAM.jpg
gsv



Fifteen Remaining LA Googies

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2015 4:52 PM

detail / La Rue Nightclub
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/qyHqMZ.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 7091732)
My wife maintains that the couple sitting at the table with backs to the camera is Robert Taylor and Barbara Stanwyck.

:previous: I think your wife is right on the mark Otis.






http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/tVSIQr.jpg
https://roberttayloractor.wordpress....bert-taylor-2/




Robert and Barbara (and their dog) at home.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/hmvcdo.jpg
https://reelhollywoodlegends.wordpre...ecret-affairs/
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ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2015 6:27 PM

Kodachrome slide, Stan Kenton playing the Palladium 1941.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/yyrORM.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Kenton-...item5b14bf1c74


"Stan Kenton played at the then-new Palladium on Sunset Boulevard from November 25 through December 31, 1941.
The "no blackout inside" sign is because California cities were routinely facing blackouts after May 27, 1941, when President Roosevelt
issued a proclamation of unlimited national emergency because of the European war.
All major cities began having regular blackout drills."


I thought American cities didn't experience blackouts until we entered the war.
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tovangar2 Jul 11, 2015 7:11 PM

:previous:
The Hollywood Palladium can be a very festive room.

Here during the war years:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...20225%2BPM.jpg
pinterest


LAT on the first WWII blackout (12/10/41) in LA


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