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ethereal_reality Sep 9, 2012 9:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 5825162)
Both the 1909 and 1915 LA City Directories (available here) say 428 Aliso, which would have been obliterated by the 101 freeway. But that would put them 4-5 blocks west of the river, so perhaps the office was on Aliso but not this facility. The giant tank on the right side of the photo, with a building in front of it, leads me to believe that the Giambastiani building is between Jackson and Temple, on the east side of Center St. That would place the big building either just north of Temple or just south of it.

I will be looking through the city directory for that building on the right. It looks like it says US Metal Works to me but there's nothing in the CD that matches that.

http://imageshack.us/a/img855/1329/aagiambastiani.jpg

Thanks for your fine help ProphetM...much appreciated!
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Here is another 1914 photograph of the flooded Los Angeles River (notice the boxcars sliding into the river).

http://imageshack.us/a/img198/9057/a...14fallingb.jpg
unknown/found on an old cd of mine

Could the large building at the extreme right be the same large building at left in the first photo?
The direction of the smoke makes me think that it is a possibility.


http://imageshack.us/a/img850/9057/a...14fallingb.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img515/6633/a...stianicopy.jpg

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ethereal_reality Sep 9, 2012 9:35 PM

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Originally Posted by westcork (Post 5825402)
The Auto Club building on Figueroa :shrug:

No, but that's certainly a good guess westcork.

http://imageshack.us/a/img341/9519/a...0domecopy1.jpg
mystery weathervane

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alanlutz Sep 9, 2012 9:46 PM

ER, you were seeing things.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825141)
below: I just came across this similar black and white photograph.

Am I seeing things?!?

Compared to the above postcard, it looks as if more earth was excavated and a marble ground floor was added.
Is this even possible....am I missing something?*


http://imageshack.us/a/img803/5708/aafederalusc.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...whit-m984.html

*ok...it just dawned on me...perhaps the b/w photograph from the USC archive (above) is flipped.

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It most definitely IS flipped. I knew something was wrong when the Hall of Justice appeared to be EAST of the U.S. Courthouse and City Hall. Ha. So I flipped it correctly and this looks much better. Also, the picture (postcard) above this original post says Post Office and City Hall. Wasn't that a booboo? I only see City Hall, Bank of Italy?, and The U.S. Courthouse.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8029/7...4c5f6255de.jpg

Those Who Squirm! Sep 9, 2012 10:19 PM

I know I saw a few motels in this thread, so I offer this shot of the Astro in Culver City, as another remarkable midcentury survival.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8304/7...bb64e705_z.jpg

You have to love the Jetsonesque style of sign, which was obviously inspired by...Well, you can read the blog post if you're interested in what I think it was inspired by.

ethereal_reality Sep 9, 2012 10:32 PM

:previous: I love those small motels that survive relatively untouched for decades.

So is WanderinginLA your blog?
http://wanderinginla.blogspot.com/20...t-turn-ok.html

Those Who Squirm! Sep 9, 2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825658)
:previous: I love those small motels that survive relatively untouched for decades.

So is WanderinginLA your blog?
http://wanderinginla.blogspot.com/20...t-turn-ok.html

You are correct, sir. Irregularly published and updated rambling musings by yours truly. Will there be another post this month--or next? The suspense will kill you. :D

ethereal_reality Sep 9, 2012 10:55 PM

Looks like a pretty good job to me. Keep up the good work Squirmy!

ethereal_reality Sep 9, 2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 5825635)
It most definitely IS flipped. I knew something was wrong when the Hall of Justice appeared to be EAST of the U.S. Courthouse and City Hall. Ha. So I flipped it correctly and this looks much better. Also, the picture (postcard) above this original post says Post Office and City Hall. Wasn't that a booboo? I only see City Hall, Bank of Italy?, and The U.S. Courthouse.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8029/7...4c5f6255de.jpg

alanlutz, I was also thrown off because I always thought the Main Street side of the Federal Building was identical to the Spring Street side.
I didn't take into consideration that Spring Street was at a higher elevation than Main Street.

below: In the postcard below you can see the grade/slope of Temple Street (circled in red).

http://imageshack.us/a/img94/2845/aafederalbldgpc.jpg
ebay
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below: The Spring Street entrance to the Federal Building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img23/4752/aa...ngstreetsi.jpg
google street view







below: The Main Street entrance to the Federal Building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img827/3158/a...stentrance.jpg
google street view


I will file this under "You learn something new everday."
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alanlutz Sep 9, 2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825693)
alanlutz, I was also thrown off because I always thought the Main Street side of the Federal Building was identical to the Spring Street side.
I didn't take into consideration that Spring Street was at a higher elevation than Main Street.

below: In the postcard below you can see the grade/slope of Temple Street (circled in red).

http://imageshack.us/a/img94/2845/aafederalbldgpc.jpg
ebay
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below: The Spring Street entrance to the Federal Building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img23/4752/aa...ngstreetsi.jpg
google street view







below: The Main Street entrance to the Federal Building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img827/3158/a...stentrance.jpg
google street view


I file this under "You learn something new everday."
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ER, Great shots of the Federal Building. Today I only know it as the United States Courthouse, since there are two other Federal buildings to the east of it now. But it says "And Post Office" so I'm going to have to do a little more research on that. http://www.cacd.uscourts.gov/

ethereal_reality Sep 9, 2012 11:45 PM

:previous: Just so you know alanlutz, 'so-cal-bear' also thought it was a mistake to call it the post office....so perhaps you two are on to something.
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alanlutz Sep 9, 2012 11:51 PM

I guess all we had to do was check Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._Angeles,_1940) It says it stopped being a Post Office in 1965.

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2012 12:32 AM

A stunning view of the Coral Canal in Venice Beach California circa 1920s.

http://imageshack.us/a/img803/2161/a...enice1920s.jpg
found on ebay






below: The reverse side of the Coral Canal cabinet card.

http://imageshack.us/a/img607/2161/a...enice1920s.jpg
detail






below: I was hoping to see 'J.C. Milligan, Photographer' stenciled on one of windows of the Mason Opera Building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img840/41/aac...hotographe.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1347237133916

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ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2012 12:41 AM

The Graf Zeppelin over Los Angeles in 1937.

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/1084/aa...overcityhf.jpg
ebay

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alanlutz Sep 10, 2012 2:08 AM

1937. That was the year they tore down the old Federal court house on the corner of Temple and Spring and began building the US Court House and Post Office. You can see all the buildings still standing on that spot from this great shot!

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2012 3:38 AM

:previous: Here is the destruction of the old federal post office at Temple and Spring in 1937.
To be honest, I thought this was only the post office...and not a federal court house.



http://imageshack.us/a/img35/1259/aa...lespring19.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1347247673692

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alanlutz Sep 10, 2012 4:10 AM

You are really on top of this one, ER. Wonder what that other red brick building and several beige ones were between Hall of Justice and this one being demolished. There is presently nothing but a large west lawn between US Courthouse and the Hall of Justice. Also I am amused by the "Sheriff's Barbeque & Picnic" signs. Is that along Spring Street or another smaller street before Spring St was extended?

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2012 4:19 AM

I've had this postcard for quite some time without thinking much of the written sentiment (flood...drowning pigeons!?!)


http://imageshack.us/a/img854/679/aadrowningsquabs.jpg
found on ebay




...so I was amazed when I came across this photograph of a pigeon farm actually being swept away by the 1914 flood.

http://imageshack.us/a/img88/5690/aa...torglastof.jpg
found on an old cd of mine

This must be the pigeon farm mentioned in the postcard. How cool is that?
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Chuckaluck Sep 10, 2012 5:13 AM

:previous:

It must have been a big flood to take out the World's Largest Pigeon Ranch/Farm/Feather-Factory.

http://www.image-archeology.com/Worl...ornia_1716.jpg

http://www.image-archeology.com/Los_...ailed_1911.jpg

http://www.image-archeology.com/Los_...ailed_1913.jpg

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And speaking of "last stands," former Great Plains inhabitants are just a stone's throw from the studios. (Bison sightings from the Angel's Flight observation tower during the last Elks meeting may not have been an exaggeration after all!:haha: )
http://www.image-archeology.com/Siou...ngeles_Cal.jpg

1909
http://www.image-archeology.com/Indi...ornia_1909.jpghttp://www.image-archeology.com/Indi..._back_1909.jpg

Fromhttp://www.image-archeology.com

ProphetM Sep 10, 2012 5:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825627)

Could the large building at the extreme right be the same large building at left in the first photo?
The direction of the smoke makes me think that it is a possibility.


http://imageshack.us/a/img850/9057/a...14fallingb.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img515/6633/a...stianicopy.jpg

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I thinks that's definitely the same building. There is a pattern of light and dark to the roof that seems to match up. I had no luck finding metal works or metal goods in my guessed location in the first pic. Now I'm off to search for hardwood flooring from the second pic... :haha:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825914)
I've had this postcard for quite some time without thinking much of the written sentiment (flood...drowning pigeons!?!)


http://imageshack.us/a/img854/679/aadrowningsquabs.jpg
found on ebay




...so I was amazed when I came across this photograph of a pigeon farm actually being swept away by the 1914 flood.

http://imageshack.us/a/img88/5690/aa...torglastof.jpg
found on an old cd of mine

Is that a make-shift wooden trestle in the distance? Where exactly was this ill-fated pigeon farm??

I think maybe that's the Dayton Ave. Bridge. The first one was replaced in 1927 and I believe it was a box-girder structure. It looks to me like there is a road leading off to the right of the bridge, and another one a short distance up the hill above the first road. I believe that matches what would have been at the Dayton Ave. bridge in 1914. Here's a link that I think has been posted here before, about the 3 Dayton Ave. bridges:
http://lacreekfreak.wordpress.com/20...dge/#more-7076

The 1930 pic from that site shows a second road above Riverside Drive on the hillside, and the 1937 newspaper pic mark an old road above Riverside that was among the casualties of the Elysian Park slide.

Los Angeles Past Sep 10, 2012 7:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825753)
The Graf Zeppelin over Los Angeles in 1937.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 5825814)
1937. That was the year they tore down the old Federal court house on the corner of Temple and Spring and began building the US Court House and Post Office. You can see all the buildings still standing on that spot from this great shot!



Actually, the Graf Zeppelin visited Los Angeles in 1929. The airship was decommissioned in 1937.

Los Angeles Past Sep 10, 2012 7:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 5825907)
You are really on top of this one, ER. Wonder what that other red brick building and several beige ones were between Hall of Justice and this one being demolished. There is presently nothing but a large west lawn between US Courthouse and the Hall of Justice. Also I am amused by the "Sheriff's Barbeque & Picnic" signs. Is that along Spring Street or another smaller street before Spring St was extended?

http://imageshack.us/a/img35/1259/aa...lespring19.jpg
U.S.C. Digital Library




It's the 'new' extension of Spring Street. In the photo above, the torn-up road between the old Post Office/Federal Building and the ones in the foreground is New High Street.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v.../CHS-42178.jpg
U.S.C. Digital Library

-Scott

MichaelRyerson Sep 10, 2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5825511)
For MR, isn't there a glimpse of the Gilmore DriveIn in AH?;)[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

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Yes, I believe there is! In fact, I think there is a brief view of Frank Shaw and a casual mention of Monkey Island. You know, it is widely believed that everything you need to know about life is contained in Annie Hall. For my money I'm more of a Brothers Karamazov kind of guy but I can see Woody Allen's appeal. Next to Dostoyevsky he can seem downright whimsical.

GaylordWilshire Sep 10, 2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5825496)


Note the evidence of graffiti on the right pillar—Berkeley Square had begun its decline by the time Schultheis did these photos. The two Berkeley Square gates were by Alfred Rosenheim. Below is the Times's rendering of them on Sept 25, 1904, as improvements were being made to the subdivision in preparation for its official April 1905 opening. More here: http://www.berkeleysquarelosangeles....e-arrived.html

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I...2520AM.bmp.jpg

MichaelRyerson Sep 10, 2012 11:58 AM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8438/7...5362c8d7_o.jpg
Chili Bowl restaurant, Herman Schultheis, 1937

One of the six Chili Bowl restaurants, located at 801 N. La Brea Avenue in the Miracle Mile. The neon sign mounted on the roof reads, "Get the Chili Bowl habit!"

LAPL

GaylordWilshire Sep 10, 2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 5825673)
You are correct, sir. Irregularly published and updated rambling musings by yours truly. Will there be another post this month--or next? The suspense will kill you. :D

A must read:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520AM.bmp.jpg

http://wanderinginla.blogspot.com/

Very witty, intelligent & quirky right down to my own preference for justified blocks of type!

MichaelRyerson Sep 10, 2012 3:06 PM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8173/7...44c733bf_o.jpg
Al Levy's Tavern, Herman Schultheis, 1937

Front window of Al Levy's Tavern, with the name, a family crest, and the words "Now catering to the third generation of my old patrons" painted on it.

LAPL



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8031/7...80b6d767_o.jpg
Al Levy's Tavern, Herman Schultheis, 1937 (2)

Two fashionably dressed young women walk past Al Levy's Tavern on Vine Street in Hollywood. The neon signs above the door read "Al Levy's Tavern" (partially out of view) and "Air Conditioned".

LAPL



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8174/7...556cc8f6_o.jpg
Al Levy's Tavern, Herman Schultheis, 1937 (3)

Exterior of Al Levy's Tavern, located at 1627 N. Vine Street in Hollywood. On the right is a glimpse of the Broadway Hollywood.

LAPL

GaylordWilshire Sep 10, 2012 4:42 PM

:previous:


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0.../mikelyman.jpgLAPL

Mike Lyman's remodeled and replaced Al Levy's—I've seen a good bit on the 'net about Mike Lyman's restaurants, but I didn't know he had a place at LAX:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpgebay.com


The site on which I found this pc describes Lyman's LAX outlet as being between the wheels of the SAS DC6...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...2520PM.bmp.jpgn303wr

nostalgie Sep 10, 2012 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5824661)
JJ Newberrys next door to JW Woolworth & Co., Westwood, early '50s(?):
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-44893?v=hrUSCDigital

August 2, 1939 "new" entrance to the J. J. Newberry & Co. store at 311 West Fifth Street.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058335.jpg

August 2, 1939 (A lunch counter to rival Woolworths 431 S. Broadway? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=938)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058336.jpg

New and improved - JJ Newberrys August 2, 1949. Grand re-opening 5th and Broadway.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058337.jpg

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Distantly related to J.J.Newberrys is its cousin, Britt's Department Store.

Newberrys had a store located on Third Street across from the Farmer's Market possibly in the '50s and '60s. 6314 W 3rd Street. According to the '73 Directory, next door at 6310 W. 3rd Street was Britts Department Store. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...rch_doc=brittsBritts was operated by parent company, JJ Newberry & Co. This building is recognizable today as "KMart." (JJNewberry once worked for Kresge, from which sprang KMArt.)

There is some slight difference of opinion regarding the history of this building since two people claiming familiarity with the building 30 years ago volunteered that the same building was operated as a private Hospital. As evidence, they claimed that the top floor "allegedly" retains the look of a large maternity ward, including related- equipment(?). Having never seen the place, I have no idea if any of this true.

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On a side note, east of the Britts/KMart building is the Ross Clothing Store which gained notoriety in 1984 for having a methane powered parking lot. It is interesting to note that the store started out, or at least once was a Market Basket Grocery Store. (See http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...=market+basket )
http://zev.lacounty.gov/wp-content/uploads/blast.gifgoogle

For anyone familiar with the area, I vaguely remember the Whole Foods Store to have been a Market Basket too, or was it a Mayfair, or Alpha Beta or even Safeway? Someone peering over my shoulder reminds me that there was a Loehmann's Clothing Store further east on the south side of Third Street (across from the Gilmore DriveIn?). But before it was a clothing store, was it not a Steakhouse or Italian restaurant that had its fair share of interesting clientele? Or perhaps I am confusing this with someplace else.

For MR, isn't there a glimpse of the Gilmore DriveIn in AH?;)

Wow! Instant nostalgia. Have been shopping at 3rd & Fairfax since the late '50s (was but a wee bairn at the time) & remember several things about BOTH
shopping areas. The one to the east (where the Ross is today) was the Park LaBrea Shopping Center, and the supermarket was indeed a Market Basket. The center had basic service businesses: dry cleaners, drug store, etc. The center to the west (where Whole Foods is now) was a charming place known as the Town & Country Center until 1961 or '62. (There's a center in Palo Alto almost identical to it - very woodsy, shingled bungalow style buildings).
When the new shopping area was built, the anchor was a Sav-On (now CVS) drugstore on the Fairfax end. The supermarket I recall was a Safeway, and there was a - I think - Zody's or White Front where the KMart is now. The center area (extends south about half a block) had a grease pit known as Fisher's Burgers, much loved by Fairfax High students.

Oh - about the Lohman's -- you're right, it was a restaurant in its original form, a place called Dublin's Food & Fun (I still have a matchbook somewhere). The building was a sort of rounded mid-century mod thing.

BifRayRock Sep 10, 2012 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5825511)
there was a mayfair for ever there.in the mid 90s when i was in my teens we would go to loehmanns for shoes.then afterwards the farmers market had a long building along fairfax where they had shops and at the end of the shops was antique alley,its funny how in 15-20 years things have changed so much in that area.

Anecdotally, there were at least two grocery stores on the south side of Third Street, east of Fairfax and across from the Farmer's Market. As I noted in previous posts, in '73 Market Basket occupied the location now known as the Ross Clothing Store (6298 W. Third Street). The second store, I believe would have been located at 6350 W Third, today operated by Whole Foods. You remember it as being Mayfair. Others I have spoken with remember it as a Market Basket, Safeway, Von's and even Ralphs (which I do recall being on the corner of Third and LaBrea.) Curiously, I haven't found any listings for prior food stores at that location in the directories I have perused. They do include SavOn Drugs (6360 W. Third)!

I too vaguely recall the collection of Antique/Consignment stores, a Post Office and the Gilmore Bank (which I think also housed antique stores).

http://www.image-archeology.com/Farm..._CA_P24896.jpghttp://www.image-archeology.com/
Postmodern Prairie Style 1955:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3628/3...42113d3658.jpgflickr
http://www.farmersmarketla.com/histo...es/slide33.jpghttp://www.farmersmarketla.com/histo...s/slide33.html


Marilyn Monroe reportedly helps celebrate opening day of Bank,with AF Gilmore, 1955 (??)
http://lagroveliving.com/wp-content/...n-1024x768.jpghttp://images.search.yahoo.com/image...mb=x5Z4zRZd8Qy


My memories go back to Quinn's Market on Larchmont and Melrose and Smiths' Food King in Beverly Hills.

266 N. Larchmont. Before Quinns, in '67 Safeway.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XRrU8-3Nmi...the+Lam+19.JPGhttp://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...locations.html

Master of disguise, the late Bob Hope in "Eight on the Lam" at 1st and Larchmont.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XRrU8-3Nmi...the+Lam+13.JPG http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XRrU8-3Nmi...the+Lam+17.JPG
http://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...locations.html



BifRayRock Sep 10, 2012 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nostalgie (Post 5826385)
When the new shopping area was built, the anchor was a Sav-On (now CVS) drugstore on the Fairfax end. The supermarket I recall was a Safeway, and there was a - I think - Zody's or White Front where the KMart is now. The center area (extends south about half a block) had a grease pit known as Fisher's Burgers, much loved by Fairfax High students.

Oh - about the Lohman's -- you're right, it was a restaurant in its original form, a place called Dublin's Food & Fun (I still have a matchbook somewhere). The building was a sort of rounded mid-century mod thing.

You should review some of the listings in the directories linked above as it might rekindle other memories. In the '56 directory, Fisher's is listed at 350 Fairfax, which suggests that the Mystery Market was also listed as being on Fairfax rather than Third.:yes: The fact that Town & Country can be listed as Shops, Village, Stores, Stalls and and Mall doesn't make things any easier. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...rs&submit=Find For what its worth, I recall being told that the name "Britts" was part of the terrazo flooring at the subject KMart, and it might still be there. (e.g. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...rch_doc=britts ) Curious about the Maternity Hospital recollections of another and it would be interesting to hear from someone who had actual knowledge of the building back then.



In '56 the restaurant you remember as "Dublin's" (6220 W. Third) went by another name: Barraclough's Dining Room and Coffee house. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...oc=barraclough Don't know when it changed hands, but it was Dublins in '62 http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...ns&submit=Find

The Source erroneously indicates this establishment was from the '40s.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imag...matchbook1.JPGhttp://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imag...matchbook4.JPGebay


"Town and Country" presumably late '50s. Well before my time and not how I remember it. May have been seen before on this forum:
http://yesterdayla.com/wp-content/up...towncntry1.jpghttp://yesterdayla.com

The Former "Britts":
http://archive.larchmontchronicle.co.../12-towing.jpggooglehttp://images4.citysearch.net/assets...8/SQNdHPLt.jpggoogle


Lwize Sep 10, 2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5826037)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8438/7...5362c8d7_o.jpg
Chili Bowl restaurant, Herman Schultheis, 1937

One of the six Chili Bowl restaurants, located at 801 N. La Brea Avenue in the Miracle Mile. The neon sign mounted on the roof reads, "Get the Chili Bowl habit!"

LAPL

The West Pico location is currently Mr. Cecil's Rib's. Very good BBQ.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AbImehj4Li...l+building.jpg

Photo from: http://ellenbloom.blogspot.com/2010/09/mr-cecils.html

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2012 11:37 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img211/9057/a...14fallingb.jpg
unknown

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 5825957)
Now I'm off to search for hardwood flooring from the second pic... :haha:

ProphetM, I found a second photo with the 'hardwood flooring' building. Notice the boxcars floating down the river.

http://imageshack.us/a/img39/8359/aa...ood11914ne.jpg
unknown/found on an old cd of mine
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Chuckaluck Sep 11, 2012 12:25 AM

http://www.image-archeology.com/Sale..._Lake_Park.jpghttp://www.image-archeology.com

http://cdn2.retronaut.co/wp-content/...61-520x420.jpghttp://cdn3.retronaut.co/wp-content/...31-520x642.jpghttp://cdn1.retronaut.co/wp-content/...12/03/131.jpeghttp://www.retronaut.co/2012/03/caws...arm-1896-1934/

Wig-Wag Sep 11, 2012 2:58 PM

Chuckaluck,

I believe that the young lady holding the ostrich plume in your last photo is the fan dancer, Sally Rand. She continued to perform well into her 60's. I had the pleasure of watching one of her last performances at a club on the Sunset Strip in the 1970's.

Cheers,
Jack

Chuckaluck Sep 11, 2012 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 5827325)
Chuckaluck,
I believe that the young lady holding the ostrich plume in your last photo is the fan dancer, Sally Rand. She continued to perform well into her 60's. I had the pleasure of watching one of her last performances at a club on the Sunset Strip in the 1970's.
Cheers,
Jack

Although Sally is most identified with fans, I am informed that the plumage covers one of the last surviving silent film actresses - Mary Carlisle. (Technically she is said to have appeared in silent shorts as a child.) Per Wiki, she was born on Feb 3, 1912. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Carlisle;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_Carlisle.jpgwiki
Sally (1904-1979):
http://www.yodaslair.com/dumboozle/s...s/sallycol.jpggoogle

Those Who Squirm! Sep 11, 2012 7:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 5825695)
ER, Great shots of the Federal Building. Today I only know it as the United States Courthouse, since there are two other Federal buildings to the east of it now. But it says "And Post Office" so I'm going to have to do a little more research on that. http://www.cacd.uscourts.gov/

I never paid much attention to this building and now it seems I've been remiss, for it is clearly a fine example of the period's style for civic buildings. There's a touch of the modern about it, but fine polished stonework, quasi-neoclassical columns, and tricky bronze decorative grillwork have not been done away with altogether.

I wonder if they would let me take pictures inside the lobby?

Wig-Wag Sep 11, 2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 5827358)
Although Sally is most identified with fans, I am informed that the plumage covers one of the last surviving silent film actresses - Mary Carlisle. (Technically she is said to have appeared in silent shorts as a child.) Per Wiki, she was born on Feb 3, 1912. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Carlisle;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_Carlisle.jpgwiki
Sally (1904-1979):
http://www.yodaslair.com/dumboozle/s...s/sallycol.jpggoogle

Thanks, Chuckaluck.

Cheers,
Jack

H.L.P Sep 12, 2012 12:12 AM

Hello everyone here in Noirish Los Angeles, I stumbled upon this website a year ago when i was looking for old photos of the 110 tunnels and was amazed by the content of this site. I've been through the whole thread 3 times, all 450 plus pages, and love it each time.

I grew up in Highland Park, and always noticed there were a lot of old buildings and house still around. A lot of the city, on the east side of the river still have many victorian homes, I hope to contribute pictures of these places later in the future.
This site has taught me so much about the history of the city that I love. I dont want to make this too long so I just want to say thanks to everyone here for your amazing pictures and knowledge of my favorite city.

-Steven

MichaelRyerson Sep 12, 2012 11:35 AM

Hi Steven, and welcome.
 
We've talked a bit about Highland Park but as of yet we've not really gone across the river. Funny how that river stills acts as a point of demarcation. Lots of interesting history over there. And, as you point out, lot of surviving Victorian architecture. Look forward to your pics.

MichaelRyerson Sep 12, 2012 11:47 AM

The raised kiosk traffic officer as late as 1937?
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8461/7...7804a36f_b.jpg
Main at 9th Street, Los Angeles, Herman Schultheis, 1937


This is a view of Main looking north from Ninth to where Spring and Main converge. Interestingly, a raised kiosk with a uniformed police officer is set on top of a pole in the foreground of this corner, perhaps to monitor the complicated intersection. We had seen these kiosks in earlier photos but I don't remember seeing them this late. Signs visible include the Los Angeles City Club (833 South Spring) and the California Bank in the 810 South Spring Building. Pedestrians are waiting in the street for a streetcar.

LAPL

MichaelRyerson Sep 12, 2012 12:10 PM

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Mayor Frank Shaw hands over the ceremonial scissors, Herman Schultheis, 1937

Mayor Frank Shaw, realising he can't slip them in his pocket, reluctantly hands the ceremonial scissors to actress Sheila Darcy against a backdrop of crowds and businesses at the Highland Avenue street widening dedication in Hollywood. A sliver of the ribbon to be cut is visible on the bottom left. Ms. Darcy, a fine figure of a woman (as the saying goes), would later marry fellow actor Preston Foster.

LAPL


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Sheila Darcy cuts the ribbon for dedication, Herman Schultheis, 1937

Mayor Frank Shaw holds up the ribbon just cut by actress Sheila Darcy during the dedication of Highland Avenue. In 1937 Highland Avenue was widened from Cahuenga Boulevard to Melrose Avenue. The dedication ceremony took place on October 13th at Hollywood High School. Edward Brown of the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce was in charge of the program and Mayor Frank Shaw, Sheriff Eugene Biscailuz and actress Sheila Darcy were among the speakers with Ms. Darcy doing the honors of turning one long ribbon into two somewhat shorter ribbons.

LAPL


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Talking with Sheila Darcy, Herman Schultheis, 1937

Sheriff Eugene Biscailuz (far left) and another man talk to actress Sheila 'the dragon lady' Darcy on the sidewalk at the Highland Avenue street widening dedication.

LAPL

Chuckaluck Sep 12, 2012 4:43 PM

Highland Park and Garvanza?

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6387 and

Garvanza Hotel, 1887 (SW corner of York Blvd and Ave 63.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-6667?v=hrUSC Digital

Before and after, courtesy of frequent contributor GSJansen :)
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1339/5...7da4b3a3_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33455118@N08/5178424059/

MichaelRyerson Sep 12, 2012 5:41 PM

Speaking of which, where is gsjansen? I miss his posts. He's a good one. Hope he's okay.

Chuckaluck Sep 12, 2012 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5152233)
woo hoo! park at the park in '52 :eeekk:

building the underground garage under pershing square 1951

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-32448?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-32448?v=hr

More of the same, different perspectives. January 25, 1952
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...15E5AE872?v=hrhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...462-003~3?v=hrhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...462-003~1?v=hrUSC Digital

Those Who Squirm! Sep 12, 2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilbo (Post 5546965)
It is interesting to see some of the old menu's - but what an interesting address - "1815 1/2 Central Avenue" ?

BTW - any menu's from any of Billy Wilkerson's restaurants or cafes ?

Bilbo

It's not all that unusual stateside, but is more typically found in residential than commercial districts. I'm not sure why this happened, but in many older residential districts there are lots of single family houses that have so-called guesthouses in the back, which are rented out to tenants. In many cases an address ending in "1/2" will be the guesthouse. It's a somewhat curious thing, because the main houses in question are almost always fairly small and ordinary houses themselves, in some cases not much bigger than the guesthouses which their owners rent out. They aren't in any sense stately homes or anything like that.

ethereal_reality Sep 13, 2012 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825066)
MYSTERY photograph.
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Some of you might think this is down-right silly, but I thought it would be fun to post a mystery photograph.
Can any one of the wonderful geniuses :) place this rather unique weather vane?

http://imageshack.us/a/img641/9519/a...0domecopy1.jpg
detail/found on one of my old cds.

I will post the answer and complete photograph on Wednesday, Sept. 13th.
Good luck!!
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As promised....

This amazing weather vane was atop the main dome of the Moorish-style Le Grande Station.
The station, located just south of the First Street viaduct at 2nd Street and Santa Fe Avenue, was the main passenger terminal
of the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Railroad.


http://imageshack.us/a/img138/1106/aaatsf1910dome.jpg
detail/ebay






http://imageshack.us/a/img194/717/aaatsf1910a.jpg
ebay



After the 1933 Long Beach Earthquake the station's monumental dome was removed.
The station continued to serve Santa Fe Railway's passenger terminal (sans dome) until the opening of the Los Angeles Union Station
on May 7, 1939.




below: Here is a view of the once magnificent Santa Fe Station minus the damaged dome on Jan. 26, 1939.

http://imageshack.us/a/img687/433/aaatminusdome1939.jpg


I would love to find a photograph of the interior of the dome. It must have been absolutely 'le grande'. :)

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ethereal_reality Sep 13, 2012 1:23 AM

A fascinating cabinet card of a fire brigade in action!

http://imageshack.us/a/img818/1268/aafireebay.jpg
ebay







below: reverse side.

http://imageshack.us/a/img402/3497/aafireebay1r.jpg
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Wig-Wag Sep 13, 2012 3:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5828486)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8461/7...7804a36f_b.jpg
Main at 9th Street, Los Angeles, Herman Schultheis, 1937


This is a view of Main looking north from Ninth to where Spring and Main converge. Interestingly, a raised kiosk with a uniformed police officer is set on top of a pole in the foreground of this corner, perhaps to monitor the complicated intersection. We had seen these kiosks in earlier photos but I don't remember seeing them this late. Signs visible include the Los Angeles City Club (833 South Spring) and the California Bank in the 810 South Spring Building. Pedestrians are waiting in the street for a streetcar.

LAPL

Michael,

The kiosk on the corner in your photo of South Main and East Ninth is not a police control box, but rather a Los Angeles Railway/Pacific Electric switchtender's box for controlling the turning of streetcars at that busy 3-way intersection (South Spring Street joins South Main here).

For many years track switches in the street had to be thrown manually, requiring that the motorman exit his car, walk forward and throw the switch and then re-board the car to make the turn onto the desired street. This created unnecessary delays at the City's busier intersections.

Note the very heavy electrical conduit running into the kiosk roof and in both directions on the two streets. This is connected to a control panel used to operate the electric switch motors buried in the street and the signals controlling the movement of the streetcars. Two of those signals can be seen below the street light standard at the extreme right of the photo (They are mounted on a pole hidden by the street light standard) and a third atop the kiosk itself. In addition, note the bell mounted to the underside of the floor of the kiosk. This bell alerted pedestrian traffic to watch for turning streetcars. I am a bit hazy on the relationship of the ACME auto traffic signal to the movement of turning streetcars, but that too may have been controlled by the switchtender when required. Eventually, technology was developed to allow the motorman to throw the switch from his control stand in the streetcar.

Cheers,
Jack

H.L.P Sep 13, 2012 4:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 5828783)
Highland Park and Garvanza?

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6387 and

Garvanza Hotel, 1887 (SW corner of York Blvd and Ave 63.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-6667?v=hrUSC Digital

Before and after, courtesy of frequent contributor GSJansen :)
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1339/5...7da4b3a3_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33455118@N08/5178424059/

WOW! great Now and then, simply amazing

MichaelRyerson Sep 13, 2012 10:18 AM

Here's one for Scott...
 
your cornerstone is on the move...


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8299/7...44a88a2c_b.jpg
Courthouse ceremony

A crowd has gathered to remove the cornerstone of the old Los Angeles County Courthouse on May 20, 1936. The first Los Angeles County Courthouse was built in 1891(?) and is also as known as the "Red Sandstone Courthouse." Located at Spring and Temple, this building served as the courthouse until 1933, when it sustained damage in the Long Beach earthquake, and was demolished in 1936.

LAPL


Wig-Wag, Thanks for that infomation concerning the Ninth and Main kiosk. I only remembered the actual motorman controlling the switches from the car.


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