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https://s26.postimg.org/su1i0mm4p/Cedar_Palm.jpg gsv Actually, as I came down the street looking for an enormous Moreton Bay Fig, the row of palms certainly caught my eye. Laid out like that, it seems to me that they must have well preceded the subdivision of the area. Those big palms lined up like that, inset into the property rather than in the street parkway, are what I'd expect to see in front of a big estate home or old ranch house. Do you know the history of this stretch? Was there some impressive structure or compound there way way back? |
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And I was ignorant to the papers being signed on Bunker Hill day! This deserves more research. I also won't tackle the aerial view/hills question, but will add this to the mix, from the Daily Herald, which began publication October 3, 1873—which seems to indicate that the hill was a great nameless beast until its crowing avenue was named to commemorate the forthcoming centennial; this given a boost perhaps by the fortuitous June 17th date of signing. Dec. 13 & 14, 1873: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4802/...4268ca13_o.png https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4784/...2b33125b_o.pnghttps://farm5.staticflickr.com/4780/...cb64e32e_o.pngnewspapers.com |
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And now for something completely different . . .
While fishing for more on Bunker Hill, I ran across the following article on Temple St., which I thought NLA might find interesting. Unfortunately, the article is damaged where in the article an important year was indicated. As Mr. Temple died at the end of May, 1866, and the wording of the text is such that it seems he is still alive, the ordinance concerning the inception of Temple Street must be no later than that year . . . but see below . . .: https://s26.postimg.org/aawee5z7d/Temple.jpg LA Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library. Rearranged to save space. From the following two items, from the Los Angeles Star of the indicated dates, it would seem as if Temple St. did not exist per se before 1860, and perhaps sprang into being about 1862 (but certainly no later than May, 1866, going by my above reasoning): January 28, 1860: “On Thursday afternoon, Mr. Marchessault, our worthy mayor, while in the procession on the way to the graveyard [the Protestant Cemetery on Fort Hill] with the corpse of Mr. R.B. Wilburn, had his buggy upset near the Salamander Iron Works [and thus evidently about the corner of what later would be Temple and New High Sts.], but fortunately without any damage. The road to the graveyard on the hill is very unsafe for carriages, and it is time that the authorities paid some attention to the matter.” As the way was just referred to as "the road to the graveyard," it would seem that Temple St. as such did not yet exist. But causing mishaps to a mayor can bring about changes and ordinances: June 28, 1862: “For some weeks back, improvements have been progressing on the projected street adjoining the new church. The street is to be opened up, so as to make a good road to the burying ground on the hill, and a number of lots will be offered for sale. The proceeds of these lots are to be devoted to fencing in the graveyard. This work is being performed by the city prisoners, at a trifling cash outlay, as they are employed on it, when no other work offers. In connection with the foregoing improvement[,] the water which has heretofore poured down this gulch, to the streets, inundating houses in times of rains, will be constructed by a drain to be cut, which will carry it off from the streets along the arroyos among the hills, and so clear of the settled part of the town. This will be a decided improvement, as it was necessary to devote two or three months every spring to the repair of roads and streets cut up by the water pouring down from the hills during winter.” Early Temple St.: :tumbleweed: |
I often wondered what happened to an old warehouse that had haunted me since early childhood.
Angelus Furniture. I knew it was downtown somewhere, and the image in my mind was that of a very old building. By accident, while looking up a taqueria in Boyle Heights, I notice on Google Maps the name Angelus Grand Plaza. A little more Googling, and it turns out this is the location where Angelus Furniture once stood (apparently until 1987, but I hadn't been there since the late 1960's.) Repurposed as a shopping plaza, there it stands. Mystery solved. http://larry.wizegallery.com/VWV/angelus.jpg (Google Maps, hosted by me) |
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Scott Charles, Odinthor, the layout of these hills is a very interesting issue. One way it occurred to me to look is to check old USGS topo maps. The first 1:24,000 scale topo dates from 1928; hill excavation had already taken place to a degree. The contour intervals appear to be five feet. The 2nd and 3rd Street tunnels are present, and the Plaza can be seen in the upper right. Hope this helps some, I'll look for older maps.
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The oak of the golden dream, 1842
"Nothing left but stark fingers reaching for the sky." -Sierra Pelona Oak
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We could visit the Oak of the Golden Dream , Placerita Canyon,Los Angeles County. Photograph taken APRIL 13, 1937 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/3vaS6U.jpg LAPL GOLD FOUND: MARCH 9, 1842 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/7VlIn9.jpg FISHWRAP 6 MILES EAST OF NEWHALL https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/NhtUBV.jpg FISHWRAP 1937 MARCH 9, 1954. IRENE INSPECTS THE HOLE." https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Ia1mTu.jpg Valley Times Collection The hole in the Oak of Golden Dream is inspected by Mrs. Irene McKibben, member of Native Daughters of Golden West. ONE LAST NEWSPAPER ARTICLE: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/tvcQcl.jpg SCV HISTORY odinthor....this Oak is still ALIVE! https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/zrSJBP.jpg flickr __ |
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A Question About Street Names...
I was hoping you folks might be able to help me out with some street names... :)
The area is just east of City Hall. The problem is, this area has been shifted around several times. In the first version of the neighborhood, Spring Street veered east when it hit First Street. In the second version of the area, Spring Street was straightened out to build City Hall. Finally, things got shuffled around again when the 101 freeway was built. The period I am asking about is post-straightening, pre-freeway. So, if any one of you would be kind enough to assist me, please take a look at the City of Angels on August 14th, 1941... https://i.imgur.com/Ps6cFS8.jpg Street #1 should be Market Street, yes? I can see the turret of the Amestoy Building right on the corner of Market and Main. But what about 2, 3, and 4? These streets are where the 101 freeway is now, or close enough to it that things have been highly reconfigured. I'm assuming that these streets are either Ducommun St or Commercial St or Aliso St... maybe even Arcadia St..? - - - And then there's this street, highlighted in hot pink, which lies right in the middle of the current-day 101 freeway. Is it California Street? Or something else? https://i.imgur.com/1tSfwsS.jpg Many thanks in advance! These are the only streets I don't understand in the entire DTLA area, I promise! :D PS: It's so sad seeing the empty lot where the beautiful County Court House used to be... :( - - - By the way, the detail shots above come from a beautiful aerial image at UC Santa Barbara's FrameFinder. They don't seem to allow direct links, but you can go to this link and search for "City Hall Los Angeles". Once it zooms you in, scroll around until you find the the red dot in the middle of Los Angeles Street, between Temple and Aliso. Click it, and the popup window will look like this: https://i.imgur.com/vKvvsAu.jpg FYI: the file size of the download is over 231 megabytes. If you'd just like to see a nice, 1.8 megabyte jpeg of the photo, click here. |
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1 is (as you suspected) Market Street. 2 is the top of Commercial Street. 3 is the top of Aliso Street. 4 (going up the side of the Arcadia and Baker Blocks) is Arcadia Street. The "hot pink" street in the second image is indeed California Street. Quote:
The very large (>200 Mb) images are stored at 16 bits/pixel. You can make the files considerable smaller by reducing them to the more usual 8 bits/pixel grayscale format with no obvious loss of quality. As an example, I flattened a 207 Mb image, reduced it to 8 bits/pixel, and the resultant file was only 34.5 Mb (I can get it down to 26 Mb using TIFF ZIP compression). |
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Placerita Canyon related: Here's some information on the expansion of Golden Oak Studios. It's been in the works for a few years. Perhaps I should drive by to see what progress, if any, has been made (I live close by). https://signalscv.com/2017/10/plan-d...nded-one-year/ Andys |
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Thanks, Andys, I've watched some of those street sets go up on the aerial views, but hadn't seen them from ground level. Also from the aerial views, I'm glad to see that the covered bridge at the Golden Oak Ranch is back. The original bridge (below), which I've also seen in "The Fall Guy" and "Murder She Wrote" amongst others, was removed a few years ago, and it looked like they were draining the small lake. Now it's back, so I guess it was just being overhauled/repaired. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Bridge0215.jpg Warner Bros |
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And good tip on the switch to 8 bit/pixel, - that's a huge difference in file size! I downloaded a number of files, and your trick made them a fraction of the size they were previously. :banana: |
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Back in the day, before the internet, images of Bunker Hill existed in just a couple of hard-to-find books, or those "Changing Face of LA" calendars that came out 1989/90. In the early-mid 90s (or so I seem to remember) LAPL started putting their collection online and some of the first pics they uploaded were their Reagh & Hylen Bunker images. This one always popped up when you entered "Bunker Hill" into the search field. http://jpg2.lapl.org/spnb1/00017261.jpglapl To this day if you google "Bunker Hill" or "Reagh Bunker Hill" it's always near the top. This recent KCET story terms it Bunker Hill. And it vexed me for the longest time because it didn't match Bunker Hill topography I knew of, until first of the Hill historians, NLA's rick m pointed out to Carolyn Cole that this was California Street, making this by rights Fort Moore Hill. (Rick points out as much in this post.) I'm thrilled that Cal State Lib has started posting their images larger, so now we can see it like this https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4773/...a4b93be9_o.png Which we can zoom in on like so: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4789/...a1192d1b_o.png (Lest anyone say we're not being noirish enough, check out that guy...my guess is he's peering down at his DeSoto and wondering if the body in the trunk is starting to smell.) So aaaaanyway, in case anyone has ever wondered about that image, I threw together this: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4792/...a9d65028_o.jpg Red dot at the bottom is where Reagh shot the image, above the Broadway Tunnel. Red dot at the top is the Olive St Shul, 227 North Olive. Blue dot is the La Salle Apartments, 314 California, between Broadway and Hill, home of the guy with the DeSoto. Orange dot is the inersection of Broadway and Fort Moore Place, where the grandest houses were. The yellow dot to the right is Mary Banning's place (that began life as the Buena Vista, Jacob Phillipi's beer hall, in 1883.) The other yellow dot to the left is the Hill St tunnel opening onto Temple. |
''Crime Wave''...1954 Glory days of film Noir.
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Eventually, I realized that such a resource might not exist - so I decided to make one myself! So I took this November 29, 1933 image from FrameFinder (231 MB), cleaned it up a bit, and added in layers in Photoshop: First, street names in yellow. Next, points of interest in blue. Then, the path that the freeways would eventually take, in green. And finally, highlights of the various hills. https://i.imgur.com/CKPVwZV.gif For the outline of Bunker Hill, I used the boundaries you get when you enter "Bunker Hill, Los Angeles" into Google Maps: https://i.imgur.com/VU4uKrN.jpg As for Court Hill and Fort Moore Hill, I simply outlined the areas where you can actually see a hill in photographs of the period: https://i.imgur.com/sNIaxb8.jpg (At the bottom of the above photo, you can see the streets that HossC so kindly provided me the names of in a previous post. Thanks again, Hoss!) Here is a very small snapshot of my completed image (the original is huge), complete with all street names, outline of freeways, points of interest, and outlined "hill" neighborhoods, each in a different layer. What do you folks think? Are my boundaries of the "hill" neighborhoods accurately presented? https://i.imgur.com/ilrmi8a.jpg PS: odinthor and Beaudry - forgive me, somehow I missed seeing your posts on this the previous page until right now - I only found them when I went back to copy the URL to link directly to HossC's post. Very interesting research and commentary. I am inclined to agree with you, odinthor, when you say the following: Quote:
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I know we have covered Crime Wave in the past.... but let's briefly look at it again! This image always comes to mind because of the Bomb Shelter sign. (this is 1953/54...how long we're these signs up?) we've probably discussed that before too. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ghMfJd.jpg BRIANDANACAMP Gene Nelson, Phyllis Kirk and Sterling Hayden. CIRCLE-8 COCKTAIL LOUNGE https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/LpFpB5.jpg BRIANDANACAMP I CAN SMELL THE STALE BEER AND THE SMOKE.......AND THE CHEAP PERFUME https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/flx8QD.jpg BRIANDANACAMP :previous: This interior certainly looks like a real bar to me. (I don't believe anyone has established where this interior was shot) RAINY STREET IN L.A. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/xT0dln.jpg DAILYGRINDHOUSE You can find the list of Crime Wave locations HERE Most of them are pretty vague except for "200 North Spring Street".(CITY HALL) The Circle-8 Bar location isn't mentioned...nor is the interior. & I didn't know about Whitman Airport in Pomona. :shrug: _ |
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