Does anyone know how long the Lakewood Blueclaws have a contract for? It would great if they could move that affiliate right to Camden. Maybe could have some administrative advantages for rehab assignments, etc. Could help get the young players in the farm system acclimated to the franchise, and get the big Philles junkies better access to watching up-and-comers.
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The AA Reading team plays in a stadium that is over half a century old. However from what I understand it has received many upgrades over the years, is considered a great stadium and they have excellent attendance there. As you just mentioned mentioned, Lakewood will be at their current stadium for a very longtime and they're definitely not moving their other single A team out of Clearwater considering the stadium there is also new, owned by the phillies, and the home of their Spring Training. All that leaves you with is the half season teams and rookie ball teams which don't really play many games at all and are very low level. So I don't know, they could move their short season team from Williamsport to Camden but doesn't seem likely. Hopefully they'll be able to find someone to move in there, but I have no idea who. |
The water cooler talk here in Camden is that if this project is successful the stadium (which is currently owned by the CCIA) will likely be demolished and the site used in a later phase.
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Is the stadium site big enough for a Sixers arena?? Hmmm
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So I wouldn't mind seeing a basketball arena in Center City, but Camden wouldn't be terrible either if done right. I certainly see no issue with them leaving the Sports Complex though, as unlike the other teams I don't really see how they derive much of a benefit from being down there and locating them elsewhere works much better for the sixers than any of the other pro teams. |
So if the Sixers were to move, whether elsewhere in Philly or Camden, would the Flyers just stay in South Philly? The Fargo is only 20 years old, and I think it's still a very good arena. Last time I was at a Sixers game, though, only 12,000 people were there, in an arena that seats what, 20,000? Granted, the fact that the Sixers suck has something to do with it. The Flyers are pretty good right now, so attendance should be higher. And of course, we know how passionate us Philly fans are.
The more I think about it, the more I think that the Phillies should have moved up to Spring Garden Street back before they built the Bank. The South Philly Sports Complex is a great place, but that urban stadium vibe is always a nice one, and would have accelerated the development in the area. The only question is where the Eagles would have ended up. I don't know. |
I don't like the idea of the Sixers' Arena coming to Camden because of parking. An arena at that site would only cement the vast fields of parking that currently occupy most of the Camden waterfront. The only way to get rid of it is going to be slow, organic development of offices and apartments.
I think discussion of a replacement for the Farg would be better over in the project rundown thread so I'll post over there now. |
if anything the Phillies should move the Williamsport Crosscutters to Camden, they are the Phillies Class A-Short Season Minor League Baseball team based in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, with Reading, Allentown, and Lakewood being so close, bring the Crosscutters to Camden would bring all of the Phillies affiliates close to the city, except the Clearwater Thrashers, this would save Campbell's Field and give Camden a boost, come see the future players of the Phillies
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They are currently assembling a very large drill on the site. Looks like we're getting caissons baby!
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http://i.imgur.com/Fi39uLz.jpg?1 The construction is now visible from Penn's Landing. |
you can see the drilling rig from Market street in Philly when you look east
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This was my view on Thursday 1/5 from Adventure Aquarium in Camden. Looks like the drilling rig still?
...Also, how can I make the picture come up smaller? https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...39&oe=59168457 |
At Camden's Subaru site, plans for a city within a city
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ne...in_a_city.html http://media.philly.com/images/01081...DEN08_1200.jpg The North American HQ of Subaru is already totally topped out and cladding is going up on it. |
I love what's happening in Camden, only a matter of time until we see Philly style infill development there.
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It will probably take decades, infill, and tag-a-long development before it really results in a residential boom of middle income people and true commercial vibrancy. But if this works, won't we all probably say it was 'worth it' notwithstanding the extraordinary lengths that needed to be taken? Camden is presently so divested and in such dire straits, it is probably lost forever without these kinds of measures. |
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