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Abii Dec 2, 2017 4:49 AM

Public Art Debate
 
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Originally Posted by ggopher (Post 8005272)
Beautiful day for a walk in Calgary, first day of December and it is +6C, just one of the many reasons why I love this city:



Now this is a great example of public art:

https://i.imgur.com/mZRc2osl.jpg

Thanks for the pics. Who is he?

ggopher Dec 2, 2017 4:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Abii (Post 8005652)
Thanks for the pics. Who is he?

Very interesting history.
http://m.metronews.ca/#/article/news...eep-roots.html

Chinook Arch Dec 2, 2017 5:27 AM

Umm, not exactly a great example of public art, not even a good one. Better than Bowfort Towers, I'll give it that.

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Originally Posted by ggopher (Post 8005272)

Now this is a great example of public art:

https://i.imgur.com/mZRc2osl.jpg


topdog Dec 2, 2017 5:55 PM

Not a great example! Everyone in Calgary thinks public art has to involve a horse and a cowboy :hell:


Quote:

Originally Posted by ggopher (Post 8005272)
Beautiful day for a walk in Calgary, first day of December and it is +6C, just one of the many reasons why I love this city:


Now this is a great example of public art:

https://i.imgur.com/mZRc2osl.jpg

This is a great example of public art.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6e1e07f7ea.jpg

Deepstar Dec 2, 2017 7:06 PM

Thank you. :cheers:

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Originally Posted by topdog (Post 8005964)
Not a great example! Everyone in Calgary thinks public art has to involve a horse and a cowboy :hell:


This is a great example of public art.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6e1e07f7ea.jpg


Northern Dec 2, 2017 7:46 PM

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Originally Posted by topdog (Post 8005964)
Not a great example! Everyone in Calgary thinks public art has to involve a horse and a cowboy :hell:

This is a great example of public art.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6e1e07f7ea.jpg

Let me guess, you're one of those morons who think this is public art.

http://calgarybuzz.com/wp-content/up...ng-985x739.jpg

milomilo Dec 3, 2017 1:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chinook Arch (Post 8005672)
Umm, not exactly a great example of public art, not even a good one. Better than Bowfort Towers, I'll give it that.

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Originally Posted by topdog (Post 8005964)
Not a great example! Everyone in Calgary thinks public art has to involve a horse and a cowboy :hell:


This is a great example of public art.

[IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6e1e07f7ea.jpg[/MG]

If that is the example I think it is (by the Elbow/Bow confluence) it's actually much more thoughtful than just a typical cowboy - the writing on the statue indicates it's meant to represent the first westerners to arrive on a desolate prairie, unknowing of the city that would one day be in front of them.

jc_yyc_ca Dec 3, 2017 3:53 AM

Even the leftwing libtards don't consider this art.

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Originally Posted by Northern (Post 8006049)
Let me guess, you're one of those morons who think this is public art.

http://calgarybuzz.com/wp-content/up...ng-985x739.jpg


suburbia Dec 3, 2017 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca (Post 8006327)
Even the leftwing libtards don't consider this art.

Interestingly, if art is meant to start conversation, this has been one of the most successful. I do like that it is functional, and in all honesty, every time I drive by this thing, everyone in the car cannot help but look. It has come to "own" the initially negative meaning reindeer names. The "big blue hoola hoop" seems to weather all of this.

ST1 Dec 3, 2017 8:15 PM

But by the same token the art piece could be a huge piece of dog crap made of plastic and people would talk about it and look at it every time they drive by.

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Originally Posted by suburbia (Post 8006700)
Interestingly, if art is meant to start conversation, this has been one of the most successful. I do like that it is functional, and in all honesty, every time I drive by this thing, everyone in the car cannot help but look. It has come to "own" the initially negative meaning reindeer names. The "big blue hoola hoop" seems to weather all of this.


X_ting_on Dec 3, 2017 8:19 PM

The public art in the first pic is more appealing to me. The art in the second pic is cliche, I mean a statue of a guy on a horse sitting atop a cement block. The oldest cliche of art there is.

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Originally Posted by ggopher (Post 8005272)
Beautiful day for a walk in Calgary, first day of December and it is +6C, just one of the many reasons why I love this city:

https://i.imgur.com/OMX6iXal.jpg


Now this is a great example of public art:

https://i.imgur.com/mZRc2osl.jpg


Stephen Ave Dec 4, 2017 12:00 AM

FFS it’s all art. What is it with people and this fetish for having heart that modern and colorful, why can’t something be a statue sitting on top of concrete cannot still be considered art???

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Originally Posted by X_ting_on (Post 8006853)
The public art in the first pic is more appealing to me. The art in the second pic is cliche, I mean a statue of a guy on a horse sitting atop a cement block. The oldest cliche of art there is.


Chinook Arch Dec 4, 2017 6:11 AM

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Originally Posted by milomilo (Post 8006262)
If that is the example I think it is (by the Elbow/Bow confluence) it's actually much more thoughtful than just a typical cowboy - the writing on the statue indicates it's meant to represent the first westerners to arrive on a desolate prairie, unknowing of the city that would one day be in front of them.

Exactly. I don't see anything wrong with it. Not all all should be cowboys and horses, but it's nice to have some variety and it's nice to having something that pays tribute to local history.

Chinook Arch Dec 4, 2017 6:15 AM

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Originally Posted by X_ting_on (Post 8006853)
The public art in the first pic is more appealing to me. The art in the second pic is cliche, I mean a statue of a guy on a horse sitting atop a cement block. The oldest cliche of art there is.

I'm not sure what you're smoking, but this is about as cliche as it gets.

https://i.imgur.com/OMX6iXal.jpg

jc_yyc_ca Dec 4, 2017 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Socguy (Post 8007491)
When it costs 17 million to fix a single truss installed wrong back in the 1980's it kind of puts into perspective how little this city actually spend on things like public art or footbridges.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...-fix-1.4430833

Not an apples to apples comparison, unless your saying that public art is the equivalent of an expensive fuck up. A case could be made for that.

suburbia Dec 4, 2017 4:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern (Post 8006049)
Let me guess, you're one of those morons who think this is public art.

http://calgarybuzz.com/wp-content/up...ng-985x739.jpg

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Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca (Post 8006327)
Even the leftwing libtards don't consider this art.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suburbia (Post 8006700)
Interestingly, if art is meant to start conversation, this has been one of the most successful. I do like that it is functional, and in all honesty, every time I drive by this thing, everyone in the car cannot help but look. It has come to "own" the initially negative meaning reindeer names. The "big blue hoola hoop" seems to weather all of this.

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Originally Posted by msmariner (Post 8006737)
Don’t wanna interrupt this non construction talk with a construction update. The site has been cleared and fenced off to the east of University City. There was a blue drill/ pile driver in site this morning. Not sure what the name of the project.

To msmariner's point, perhaps a public art thread might be good to start (though many would highlight that public art is integrated with construction projects quite often, particularly with the funding model). If such a thread exists, apologies for not knowing that. There was good discussion on CBC this morning on the TELUS Sky art plan, which in that case is completely integrated into the building.

At the same time, I think backhanded knocks on people ("don't wanna interrupt this non construction talk") are not always helpful, and perhaps a higher level of civility / maturity is appropriate.

Socguy Dec 4, 2017 7:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca (Post 8007545)
Not an apples to apples comparison, unless your saying that public art is the equivalent of an expensive fuck up. A case could be made for that.

I think you missed the point.

Corndogger Dec 4, 2017 7:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Socguy (Post 8007845)
I think you missed the point.

There's absolutely no connection between this incident and public art.

jc_yyc_ca Dec 4, 2017 8:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Socguy (Post 8007845)
I think you missed the point.

Umm, you missed the point. The cost of repairing a faulty truss is way larger than the cost of art, so what? The cost of crappy art is far more expensive than installing some extra park benches., and park benches are far more expensive than a happy meal at Mcdonald's.

The faulty truss is something that had to be done whether we liked it or not, same thing goes for replacing old sewage pipes and re-paving roads. Those are 'have to haves', not 'nice to haves', and if you're going to spend money on 'nice to haves' at least try to do a better job of it.

Tobyoby Dec 4, 2017 9:08 PM

No, Socguy was right, You missed the point. The point being that the city spends billions on useful but mundane items such as road repair and pipes, etc... yet, a couple hundred thousand for art becomes a huge deal. Art is just as useful as roads and pipes, but in a different way and it comes at a minute fraction of the cost.
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Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca (Post 8007957)
Umm, you missed the point. The cost of repairing a faulty truss is way larger than the cost of art, so what? The cost of crappy art is far more expensive than installing some extra park benches., and park benches are far more expensive than a happy meal at Mcdonald's.

The faulty truss is something that had to be done whether we liked it or not, same thing goes for replacing old sewage pipes and re-paving roads. Those are 'have to haves', not 'nice to haves', and if you're going to spend money on 'nice to haves' at least try to do a better job of it.



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