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maru2501 Jan 3, 2017 10:37 PM

2017

a time for optimism


:titanic:

aaron38 Jan 3, 2017 10:48 PM

:banana: :awesome: :banana: :awesome:

Sweet! Looking south across the park from Randolph, this building is so needed. Another skyline changer!

r18tdi Jan 3, 2017 11:13 PM

This is awesome news!

mbuci Jan 3, 2017 11:39 PM

Does anybody know which rendering is more accurate, the version in the highrise thread appears to have balconies, and be more blue in color vs the renderings above.

Notyrview Jan 4, 2017 12:51 AM

:banana: Another nanner post for this one :dancing:

SolarWind Jan 4, 2017 1:01 AM

January 3, 2017











I received a friendly wave from the rotary drilling rig operator.



Grant Park Skate Park in the foreground.



Pictures were take at 11:30 am.

Kumdogmillionaire Jan 4, 2017 1:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbuci (Post 7666657)
Does anybody know which rendering is more accurate, the version in the highrise thread appears to have balconies, and be more blue in color vs the renderings above.

The rendering with the balconies and bluer coloration is one of the first ones we ever saw so I'd be guessing it is not as accurate as the pictures you see on this page of the thread.

rlw777 Jan 4, 2017 4:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbuci (Post 7666657)
Does anybody know which rendering is more accurate, the version in the highrise thread appears to have balconies, and be more blue in color vs the renderings above.

I wouldn't pay any attention to the color of the windows in these renderings. The color you see is very likely just an attempt at showing reflection. It's not blue windows it's windows reflecting a blue sky. If you're looking for accuracy the best option might be to just look at images of the model which is more accurate than the most recent rendering as it doesn't have the ornamentation on top.

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

ithakas Jan 4, 2017 4:47 PM

God I can't wait for this to block out that brick townhome/condo building directly south of it!

go go white sox Jan 4, 2017 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlw777 (Post 7667209)
I wouldn't pay any attention to the color of the windows in these renderings. The color you see is very likely just an attempt at showing reflection. It's not blue windows it's windows reflecting a blue sky. If you're looking for accuracy the best option might be to just look at images of the model which is more accurate than the most recent rendering as it doesn't have the ornamentation on top.

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

Does anyone have a link to this actual video presentation vinloys did here way back when? I'd like to watch SC hear what the project consist of.

Thanks

BVictor1 Jan 4, 2017 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go go white sox (Post 7667343)
Does anyone have a link to this actual video presentation vinloys did here way back when? I'd like to watch SC hear what the project consist of.

Thanks

There's no video of the presentation.

go go white sox Jan 4, 2017 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7667360)
There's no video of the presentation.

Ok thanks for the letting me know

r18tdi Jan 4, 2017 7:49 PM

So "One Grant Park" then?

Arm&Kedzie Jan 4, 2017 9:27 PM

A solid name!

LouisVanDerWright Jan 4, 2017 9:42 PM

Certainly better than the "One Bennett Park" bullshit. Who the hell is Bennett anyhow? Just goes to show the difference between 'class' and class permiates all the way from aesthetics to naming conventions on these two projects. Hopefully it continues to the building materials as OGP is going to be a lot more visible than OBP (thank god).

ithakas Jan 4, 2017 9:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7667624)
Certainly better than the "One Bennett Park" bullshit. Who the hell is Bennett anyhow?

Ahem.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-52853eaf/t...01/600/579x600

How quickly my fellow Chicagoans are to forget the greats of years past.

SteelMonkey Jan 4, 2017 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7667624)
Certainly better than the "One Bennett Park" bullshit. Who the hell is Bennett anyhow?


Assuming you are joking w regard to "Who is Bennett".

BVictor1 Jan 4, 2017 10:45 PM

And they've landed their construction loan too.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...oreUserAgent=1

SpireGuy Jan 4, 2017 11:25 PM

I hope the glass is black like some of the renderings suggest. I'm getting tired of all the blue glass towers. Time to mix it up!

BVictor1 Jan 4, 2017 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SpireGuy (Post 7667749)
I hope the glass is black like some of the renderings suggest. I'm getting tired of all the blue glass towers. Time to mix it up!

In what rendering and or model have you ever seen the glass as being black in color? Hmmm?

It'll be Clear Low-E glass and clear tempered glass for the railings.

The Pimp Jan 5, 2017 1:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ithakas (Post 7667631)
Ahem.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-52853eaf/t...01/600/579x600

How quickly my fellow Chicagoans are to forget the greats of years past.

Bennett a Chicago great??? How old you? I feel sad if you think Bennett could ever rank as a great with this football franchise. He doesn't even rank on the scale of greatness compared to Sayers; Butkus; Dent; Payton etc. I'm saying this with peace and love.

KWILLSKYLINE Jan 5, 2017 2:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pimp (Post 7667886)
Bennett a Chicago great??? How old you? I feel sad if you think Bennett could ever rank as a great with this football franchise. He doesn't even rank on the scale of greatness compared to Sayers; Butkus; Dent; Payton etc. I'm saying this with peace and love.

Haha. Yeah not "a great". but he's a great compared to the team that played this nonsense bullshit of a season this year. Can we call the wolf point south "The Fridge"?

BVictor1 Jan 5, 2017 2:05 PM

There's something about this project that's gotten my attention. Yeah I'm watching Wanda and OBP too, but with OGP, we're putting a tower the height of Chicago First National south of Roosevelt. I remember back in 2004 or 2005 when they were talking about the south wall buildings being 400'-500'.

It's been making me wonder... Which tower do you all think will have the overall greater impact on the skyline, One Grant Park or Vista? They're in two separate parts of the skyline with a 300' height difference between them similar to Sears and Hancock, but which one will make the greater impression?

Also, it'll be interesting to see if any of these caisson go down to bedrock.




01/04/17

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TimeAgain Jan 5, 2017 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7668226)
There's something about this project that's gotten my attention. Yeah I'm watching Wanda and OBP too, but with OGP, we're putting a tower the height of Chicago First National south of Roosevelt. I remember back in 2004 or 2005 when they were talking about the south wall buildings being 400'-500'.

It's been making me wonder... Which tower do you all think will have the overall greater impact on the skyline, One Grant Park or Vista? They're in two separate parts of the skyline with a 300' height difference between them similar to Sears and Hancock, but which one will make the greater impression?

Also, it'll be interesting to see if any of these caisson go down to bedrock.

Vista will be more noticeable of course, but OGP, Essex, and 1000S will have the greater impact simply by extending the skyline by such a great deal.

UPChicago Jan 5, 2017 4:58 PM

Vista is the same height as Trump and that building redefined the Chicago Skyline, both will be impactful but Vista moreso!

Loopy Jan 5, 2017 5:33 PM

http://i.imgur.com/OBok5R0.jpg

Steely Dan Jan 5, 2017 5:46 PM

^ NICE!

is that a vantage point you'll have access to throughout the construction of this tower? i hope so.

Chi-Sky21 Jan 5, 2017 5:49 PM

We can all chip in for a camera for you to mount.........

Notyrview Jan 5, 2017 6:02 PM

omg :slob:

munchymunch Jan 5, 2017 6:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7668226)
There's something about this project that's gotten my attention. Yeah I'm watching Wanda and OBP too, but with OGP, we're putting a tower the height of Chicago First National south of Roosevelt. I remember back in 2004 or 2005 when they were talking about the south wall buildings being 400'-500'.

It's been making me wonder... Which tower do you all think will have the overall greater impact on the skyline, One Grant Park or Vista? They're in two separate parts of the skyline with a 300' height difference between them similar to Sears and Hancock, but which one will make the greater impression?

Also, it'll be interesting to see if any of these caisson go down to bedrock.

It's hard to judge really. I remember when one museum park was completed (back when I didn't care about development) I thought it was at least top 10 tallest in the city. The impact that building has is huge, I can't imagine what another 170* feet will do to the skyline.


Vista is about 300 feet taller, but is in a pack of other really tall buildings. It's really hard to tell at the moment. I guess we'll see in 3 years. :tup:

Steely Dan Jan 5, 2017 6:29 PM

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Originally Posted by munchymunch (Post 7668512)
It's hard to judge really. I remember when one museum park was completed (back when I didn't care about development) I thought it was at least top 10 tallest in the city. The impact that building has is huge, I can't imagine what another 100 feet will do.

one grant park will actually be nearly 170' taller than one museum park.

893' vs. 726'

and one grant park actually will break through into the top 10 tallest in the city (8th or 9th depending on vista), provided that nothing else taller is built in the meantime.

munchymunch Jan 5, 2017 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 7668513)
one grant park will actually be nearly 170' taller than one museum park.

893' vs. 726'

and one grant park actually will break through into the top 10 tallest in the city (9th place), provided that nothing else taller is built in the meantime.

I meant when one museum park was first completed (pappageorge building). I thought it was in the top 10 tallest.

Steely Dan Jan 5, 2017 6:41 PM

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Originally Posted by munchymunch (Post 7668525)
I meant when one museum park was first completed (pappageorge building). I thought it was in the top 10 tallest.

i understood you. OMP was the 16th tallest in the city when it was completed in '09, but you thought it was taller than it was because of its location.

i was just pointing how much taller OGP will be than OMP, and that, at 893' tall, it actually will be among the city's top 10 when it's completed in 2019.

rlw777 Jan 5, 2017 7:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7668226)
There's something about this project that's gotten my attention. Yeah I'm watching Wanda and OBP too, but with OGP, we're putting a tower the height of Chicago First National south of Roosevelt. I remember back in 2004 or 2005 when they were talking about the south wall buildings being 400'-500'.

It's been making me wonder... Which tower do you all think will have the overall greater impact on the skyline, One Grant Park or Vista? They're in two separate parts of the skyline with a 300' height difference between them similar to Sears and Hancock, but which one will make the greater impression?

If we are talking about the skyline in terms of media Vista will have a greater impact for sure. I believe the most common places to take photos of the skyline are around Adler Planetarium and up at North Ave. beach. Vista will be prominent from both locations. OGP will not be visible from North Ave. beach and will be mostly blocked by OMP when it's not cropped out entirely from Adler.

Chi-Sky21 Jan 5, 2017 7:43 PM

Vista should look pretty good from Michigan Ave/River too!

Notyrview Jan 5, 2017 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Sky21 (Post 7668613)
Vista should look pretty good from Michigan Ave/River too!

Yeah i think from the River it's gonna be like where are the flying cars to complement it.

ithakas Jan 5, 2017 7:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notyrview (Post 7668626)
Yeah i think from the River it's gonna be like where are the flying cars to complement it.

Right here!
https://assets.dnainfo.com/generated...extralarge.jpg

Chi-Sky21 Jan 5, 2017 7:57 PM

Can't wait till someone flies a drone with video straight through Vista! of course such would be illegal and i do not condone it. msg me if you do it though!

LouisVanDerWright Jan 5, 2017 8:13 PM

Would it be illegal though? There will be a public street passing through the building. I don't see why someone, with the proper licenses, couldn't do laps over the building and down again and back through the hole with a drone...

brian_b Jan 6, 2017 4:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7668651)
Would it be illegal though? There will be a public street passing through the building. I don't see why someone, with the proper licenses, couldn't do laps over the building and down again and back through the hole with a drone...

It's kind of a gray area. Aircraft can legally fly over your property, but at great height. The real question is how low can they fly? The current legal standard comes from a case many decades ago in which a crop duster flew over some farmer's property so low that it scared his chickens to actual death. The Supreme Court ruled that there is definitely such a thing as too low - the pilot had to pay the farmer for his dead chickens - but didn't specify an actual number. There are currently a number of court cases out there dealing with drones on private property, so in a few years we may know the answer.

Chi-Sky21 Jan 6, 2017 4:57 PM

It may not be illegal now...but it would be soon after someone did that!

Notyrview Jan 6, 2017 5:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian_b (Post 7669596)
It's kind of a gray area. Aircraft can legally fly over your property, but at great height. The real question is how low can they fly? The current legal standard comes from a case many decades ago in which a crop duster flew over some farmer's property so low that it scared his chickens to actual death. The Supreme Court ruled that there is definitely such a thing as too low - the pilot had to pay the farmer for his dead chickens - but didn't specify an actual number. There are currently a number of court cases out there dealing with drones on private property, so in a few years we may know the answer.

I love property law. It's such quirky way to learn American history.

SolarWind Jan 7, 2017 10:09 PM

January 6, 2017








BVictor1 Jan 10, 2017 7:50 AM

01/09/17

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harryc Jan 10, 2017 2:13 PM

Nice set BVic ^^

aaron38 Jan 10, 2017 3:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7668226)
It's been making me wonder... Which tower do you all think will have the overall greater impact on the skyline, One Grant Park or Vista? They're in two separate parts of the skyline with a 300' height difference between them similar to Sears and Hancock, but which one will make the greater impression?

Overall it might be OGP. From too many angles Vista will form a clump with Trump and Aon (or whatever it's called now). It'll be an impressive clump, but Vista won't be forming a new peak for those sightlines.

Unfortunately OGP will also hide behind Sears for anyone approaching from the N/NW. But coming in from W to S, then it will be OGP having a large impact and overshadowing buildings further north.

Tiebreaker to OGP for forming a new peak with no equal until 311 S Wacker.

intrepidDesign Jan 10, 2017 4:07 PM

I'd love to see some images of this building from the SW, to me, the terraces it makes are going to be killer. I like the sheer verticality of the north face, but IMHO i think the south side of the building will be pretty awesome. I kinda wish the orientation of this building was 180 degrees, so those setbacks you see at (roughly) floors 23, 32 and 42 on the south were facing the park.

KWILLSKYLINE Jan 10, 2017 4:16 PM

Sweet pics Bvic and solar. Up close and personal. at least it's warming up for those workers.

Chi-Sky21 Jan 10, 2017 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intrepidDesign (Post 7673180)
I kinda wish the orientation of this building was 180 degrees, so those setbacks you see at (roughly) floors 23, 32 and 42 on the south were facing the park.

:cheers:

LouisVanDerWright Jan 10, 2017 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by intrepidDesign (Post 7673180)
I'd love to see some images of this building from the SW, to me, the terraces it makes are going to be killer. I like the sheer verticality of the north face, but IMHO i think the south side of the building will be pretty awesome. I kinda wish the orientation of this building was 180 degrees, so those setbacks you see at (roughly) floors 23, 32 and 42 on the south were facing the park.

As a buyer I would much prefer my terrace to get full sun all the time than to have a shadowy terrace facing the park. This building is well designed to take advantage of its site and maximize value for the developer and occupants.


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