Looping Back to First & Chicago Streets
 

I was finally able to track down some definitive photos of the LARY/LATL First and Chicago Streets loop. Yes Margaret, there really was a transit loop at this location.

First up, for reference, the original photo. If you look carefully at the rear of the car closest to the camera you can see the rails curving to the right, behind it.


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Photo 2., is a Google Street View image showing the buildings on first street that are visible across the triangle in the original photo, while photo 3., is a GSV referencing the current vest pocket park.

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Photo 4., is from the Andy Goddard collection on the pacificelectric.org website and shows a March 1963 LAMTA excursion at the the loop where it curves up alongside the brick building still extant and facing the park. These are the rails seen behind the car in the first photo.

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Photo 5., is also from the Andy Goddard collection an shows the same scene from the passenger boarding side of the cars.

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Now to see if I can track down the location of the PE Butterfly 12 at Compton, from ER's post No. 27287. . .

Cheers,
Jack

1931 - Tu-way Market, 760 Boyle Ave. (Neighbor Wheeler Dye Works appears to have been in business through 1960.)
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Intense sun or water based paint?

Signage looks old before its time.
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Advertising/Weather balloon near the Wilshire Tower Building, or something else??;) (Which way to Kansas?)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=547


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1910
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Pasadena via dirigible, undated
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1962 - Disney's Matterhorn
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Thanks so much for settling the question once and for all Wig-Wag! I appreciate your hard work.
...but how'd you know I go by Margaret on the weekends? ;)



(I'm kidding)

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Guessing the artist preferred the Arroyo in Autumn or ingested the wrong mushrooms.:rolleyes:

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:previous: This is a great description. Thanks for the information Otis Criblecoblis.

After a google or two, I found that Amos Gager Throop established a Universalist group in Pasadena in 1886:
The church survives as the Throop Unitarian Universalist Church. (a church that doesn't discriminate :))

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https://plus.google.com/104445099113928100150/posts

above: Throop Memorial Church, Frederick Kennedy Jr. Architect ca. 1922


He also has a peak (I spelled it right this time *;)) named after him.

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http://peakery.com/throop-peak-california/

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http://peakery.com/throop-peak-california/

"Throop Peak is a 9,142 ft. peak in the Angeles National Forest. The high peak provides views of the Mojave Desert and the Los Angeles Basin all the way to the ocean."

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Choices when staying in Santa Monica?

1930s - Hotel Windermere
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Accommodations for NICE people.



Olympic Auto Hotel - conveniently located at Lincoln and Olympic Blvd
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Blowing off steam after being denied a room at the Olympic Auto Hotel?

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1959 - Griffith Park merry-go-round "circus".
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1907 - Colorado "Street," Pasadena
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two rare snapshots


"1941 B&W Photo Snapshots "Red Car" Pacific Electric Track Removal Long Beach Ca."

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Written on the back. "Carl, Marie, Chuck and Fancher (Francher) June 1941. Built this machine for pulling street car rails."

(The original photographs are clearer than the enlargements I created)

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It's been a while since we've seen Prospect Park. ER appears to have been the first to come across it a while back: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...75#post5260475

1956 - Motel "66," Monrovia
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A second look?

Gwinn's, where the Waffles are tasty.
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Living large at Eaton's in Arcadia (From the description, you could walk in Lucky's footsteps.)

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Eaton's 1958 (Later edition)
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The Westerner. 161 Colorado Place. (Gary Cooper's favorite place to Honeymoon?)

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The Westerner pt. deux
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Wow, had no idea about the Throop-Batchelder connection - thanks for the info.

Tovangar....its so hard to imagine that not too long ago most all of the LA area was barren farm land.

Here's my brother and myself somewhere in the San Fernando valley. The place was a large ranch with fields and rabbits in cages. This is where my mom placed us in hiding for a few months. They had tractors and plows.
The lady in the background we called Aunt Sammy. I wish I had the address....maybe I can find it. I was so shocked that there were streets but no curbs....so primitive for City Boy me. Breakfast was hot cereal and that very bitter post wartime canned grapefruit juice.

Right photo is front of the house. Tom, myself and mom. The dog: Poochie. This is how we dressed on Sunday when she was dating Mr. H, the attorney who got her a divorce and she later married. He bought us those HATS..... OMG!


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Not sure about the Equator's neighbor but I do know that the Equator itself has been around a long time - think it opened in the 80's. Back then, Old Town was known as Pasadena's "Skid Row" but it was also an area full of old hippies, artists, and bohemians and there was a ton of cool stuff going on there artistically, from punk bands to avant-garde . I was a bit too young to remember many exact details but I just asked a friend whose dad was a big part of that scene what was going on at the Equator back then. A few blocks over there was also the E-Bar which operated out of the Vandervort Building at 34 S. Raymond which was another hub for the creative types in the neighborhood. That also reminds me of Hotel Carver/Doty Block, where many of those same folks lived during the 70's and 80's (I could swear we've covered on NLA but I couldn't find anything). The Wikipedia article on the Hotel Carver is a pretty interesting read. It was also, incidentally, designed by Frederick L. Roerhig, whom we mentioned recently in regards to his Rindge House in LA.

Late 1800's:

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1983:

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Present-day-ish:

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As a child, I remember the esoteric words painted on the north wall of the building quite well:

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It reads, "“’My people are the people of the dessert,’” said T.E. Lawrence picking up his fork.”

Part of the wall collapsed in the 1987 Whitter quake, and that spelled the end of that (pun intended), though the building was fortunately rehabbed. I've got a photo that I took myself (somewhere) of the words when I was a kid - I need to dig it up. Someone even took the time to track down the guy who painted the mural - article here.

:previous: Excellent details! Thanks so much Tetsu.
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Edwin Mills
 

:previous:

I've been looking all over for a photo of the "China Palace" mentioned in that link I posted, but so far no luck.

"Built in 1894, the site of Edwin Mills, by Equator, began as the China Palace. Its storied past includes housing a thriving marketplace, a stable, a mechanic shop, a storage space, and, ultimately, in 1993, Equator Café. Under the creative guidance of Teddy B. and his commitment to the community, Equator has steadily matured from a popular coffee shop to Old Pasadena’s first hookah bar, an internet café and finally, to this hidden-gem-of-a-landmark, restaurant and bar."
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I'm not even sure what China Palace was (?)

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Your childhood photos are priceless CBD. You and your brother are wearing those hats with such aplomb!
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(Nice pile of rocks. I hope you checked it for dinosaur eggs.)

I do remember big swathes of the Valley being very rural. Even inland from Hermosa Beach there were still orange orchards (I remembered the smell of smudge pots just typing that) and at least one flower farm (for seed). I couldn't even place them now. All my reference points are gone. My own kids thought our 1980s-90s trips to SFV's Pierce College at Victory and DeSoto were way out in the country (cows and horses seemed exotic to them). They were shocked when the huge strip mall got built out there. It made it seem so ordinary.

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Thx HossC for the 1966 panorama. It was neat to see a corner of the "village" atop the HOJ and I somehow never noticed the ritzy landscaped terraces on the Hall of Records penthouse level.