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Nightsky Mar 21, 2007 2:43 PM

Madrid's new skyline formed by 4 new 200m+ skyscrapers
 
This year, 2007, 4 new skyscrapers will be completed in Madrid in the same area, Cuatro Torres Business Area. All will be over 200m tall that is vey tall with European standards. And even better, they will be clustered to create a completely new skyline
for Madrid. And from what I understand the towers are not far from the recent cluster with the current tallest, Torre Picasso, and Puerto de Europa.
Thus it will create a skyline that can even compete with Frankfurt and some large American cities. Repsol tower will be the tallest building in Spain. But it is likely that the name will be changed, because the owner, Repsol YPF, has already plans to sell the
tower as they have found another highquarter.
The designs of most of the towers, especially Torre Espacio, that reminds a bit of Turning Torso, is very beautiful in my opinion.
So how far has the project reached yet? Well, I found a video on Elmundo’s website and made some screen shots that I created a collage from to give an idea of how the looks. As you can see, the towers are not far from being completed (click on thumbnail to see large version):

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/124...2007wb9.th.jpg
http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=500456

Render of the area: [img] http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9463/760269551680e7066czn5.jpg" style="border:http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1244/madridskyline2007wb9.th.jpgpx solid black">

I tried to find good high resolution photos of the new skyline and the skyscrapers, but haven’t found any so I would be thankful if someone could contribute with that.
El Mundo’s video: http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2007/0...c&t=1173439586
Madrid diagram (where I drew Torre de Cristal): http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?26486613

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...age4torres.gif
http://static.flickr.com/58/191988897_c21a7bcfd1_o.jpg

Tallest Madrid buildings when the new skyscrapers are completed:
1.Repsol Tower (150m, 45 floors) – will be the tallest building in Spain!
2.Torre de Cristal (249m, 45 floors)
3.Torre Sacyr Vallehermoso (236m, 50 floors)
4.Torre Espacio (223m, 56 floors)

Tallest completed buildings today:
Torre Espana TV tower (231m, not counted as a building)
1.Plaza Picasso(157m, 43 floors)
2. Torre de Madrid(143m, 42 floors)
3.Torre Europa (121m, 35 floors)
4.Edificio Espana (117m, 26 floors)

dbee84 Apr 7, 2007 6:01 PM

Congratulations with the diagrams, they look very good. How do you draw them? Not Paint right...¿

I started a thread on CTBA about 6 months ago:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=118065

Fabb Aug 8, 2007 6:50 AM

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7928/dscn2802dk3.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9991/dscn2838sr3.jpg

Aleks Aug 8, 2007 8:37 AM

Torre Repsol is so ugly!!! but Torre de Cristal and Torre Espacio are beautiful

Bergenser Aug 8, 2007 11:54 PM

I am pretty curius to see how The Repsol Tower will look like when finished.

mic of orion Aug 11, 2007 3:55 PM

Madrid rocks :)

awesome stuff :notacrook:

SrbijaCG Aug 11, 2007 9:03 PM

Nice, but looks a little cheap compared to towers going up right now in Moscow.
But I guess its good enough for Madrid:)

asaco102 Aug 12, 2007 5:08 PM

IMO Nabreznaja tower in Moscow looks far cheaper than any tower in Madrid.
Madrid's skyline is great, the new towers are modern and nice shaped.

anm Oct 7, 2007 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SrbijaCG (Post 3004739)
Nice, but looks a little cheap compared to towers going up right now in Moscow.
But I guess its good enough for Madrid:)

I don't they look cheap comparing to Moscow. I like these towers, and I like Moscow towers as well. In general, I thiink these are very good time for skyscraper architecture, as opposed to drab boxy style of the 60s.

asaco102, of course you are entitled to your own opinion... I personally do not see anything wrong with Naberezhnaja tower, and I heard a lot of positive opinions about it. Not only from Russians. This is the first time I hear somebody calling it cheap. Is just cheap talking?

crisp444 Oct 7, 2007 3:05 PM

These pictures were taken by me in late July:

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/DSCN2685.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/DSCN2644.jpg

Jonas Oct 7, 2007 4:20 PM

These towers are wicked! Such sexy designs and all 4 in one go. Madrid's got into the European "skyline game" quicker than anyone else and quicker than anyone could have expected. Way to go! :)

Mike K. Oct 8, 2007 2:36 AM

Yeah, I'm blown away by those projects.

What else is in store for Madrid?

Bergenser Oct 8, 2007 5:21 PM

Great, now we just need these "midrises" to fit in around them.
:tup:

Tobyoby Oct 8, 2007 6:23 PM

Some beautiful looking towers. I agree though, there needs to be some mid rise towers around them to make it a true skyline

Fabb Oct 8, 2007 7:44 PM

... or, a super-tall right in the middle of them. But that's not going to happen.

Bergenser Oct 9, 2007 7:53 AM

^ That would have been awsome. But yeah, unlikely to happen.

SHiRO Oct 10, 2007 8:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SrbijaCG (Post 3004739)
Nice, but looks a little cheap compared to towers going up right now in Moscow.
But I guess its good enough for Madrid:)

Stop your trollish posts. I've warned you before.

Wizzard Oct 11, 2007 9:05 AM

I think it looks exactly like in Moscow :) Good work.

Bergenser Oct 11, 2007 7:07 PM

I am proud of both Madrid and Moscow, I didn't expect any of them to act like this, but I am glad they do thought. :D

Jonas Oct 11, 2007 8:49 PM

What has Moscow to do with all of this? Why not to enjoy these fantastic buildings in Madrid and let Moscow mind its own business. :)

joey1111 Oct 16, 2007 5:51 PM

What is a politically correct skyline?
 
Who says that every skyline has to fit a certain mold?:shrug: Not every skyline has to look like L.A. or New York.

joey1111 Oct 17, 2007 5:32 PM

How many different types of skylines can you name?
 
I can name a few. One example, is Mexico City whose skyline is spread out or made up of many different small skylines. You could have a skyscraper here and another one five miles away. Personally, I would like the City to develop along La Reforma, the city's central core into a large dominant skyline or (type 1) skyline like Los Angeles

What's interesting is that you guys have pointed out 2 other different types of skylines::tup:

Types:
1) Los Angeles(supertall in center type) with medium sized buildings around it
2) Madrid(dominant towers in center type) with no single supertall in the middle just the dominant towers which could range from medium to supertall all about the same height and few surrounding lesser buildings if any
3) New Yorkand Chicago(dominant towers with lesser towers type)this type of skyline has from a few dominant towers with lesser towers(small to medium) surrounding them to many dominant towers stretching from a few miles to many miles downtown
4)Mexico City(multiple skylines type): this city has multiple skylines small to big with no dominant skyline. Although, Reforma is slowly developing into a dominant skyline.

joey1111 Oct 17, 2007 5:44 PM

I can name a few. One example, is Mexico City whose skyline is spread out or made up of many different small skylines. You could have a skyscraper here and another one five miles away. Personally, I would like the City to develop along La Reforma, the city's central core into a large dominant skyline or (type 1) skyline like Los Angeles
What's interesting is that you guys have pointed out 2 other different types of skylines::tup:

Types:
1) Los Angeles(supertall in center type) with medium sized buildings around it
2) Madrid(dominant towers in center type) with no single supertall in the middle just the dominant towers which could range from medium to supertall all about the same height and few surrounding lesser buildings if any
3) New York and Chicago(dominant towers with lesser towers type)this type of skyline has from a few dominant towers with lesser towers(small to medium) surrounding them to many dominant towers stretching from a few miles to many miles downtown
4)Mexico City(multiple skylines type): this city has multiple skylines small to big with no dominant skyline. Although, Reforma is slowly developing into a dominant skyline.

joey1111 Oct 17, 2007 5:45 PM

I can name a few. One example, is Mexico City whose skyline is spread out or made up of many different small skylines. You could have a skyscraper here and another one five miles away. Personally, I would like the City to develop along La Reforma, the city's central core into a large dominant skyline or (type 1) skyline like Los Angeles
What's interesting is that you guys have pointed out 2 other different types of skylines::tup:

Types:
1) Los Angeles(supertall in center type) with medium sized buildings around it
2) Madrid(dominant towers in center type) with no single supertall in the middle just the dominant towers which could range from medium to supertall all about the same height and few surrounding lesser buildings if any
3) New York and Chicago(dominant towers with lesser towers type)this type of skyline has from a few dominant towers with lesser towers(small to medium) surrounding them to many dominant towers stretching from a few miles to many miles downtown
4)Mexico City(multiple skylines type): this city has multiple skylines small to big with no dominant skyline. Although, Reforma is slowly developing into a dominant skyline.

joey1111 Oct 17, 2007 5:46 PM

I can name a few. One example, is Mexico City whose skyline is spread out or made up of many different small skylines. You could have a skyscraper here and another one five miles away. Personally, I would like the City to develop along La Reforma, the city's central core into a large dominant skyline or (type 1) skyline like Los Angeles
What's interesting is that you guys have pointed out 2 other different types of skylines::tup:

Types:
1) Los Angeles(supertall in center type) with medium sized buildings around it
2) Madrid(dominant towers in center type) with no single supertall in the middle just the dominant towers which could range from medium to supertall all about the same height and few surrounding lesser buildings if any
3) New York and Chicago(dominant towers with lesser towers type)this type of skyline has from a few dominant towers with lesser towers(small to medium) surrounding them to many dominant towers stretching from a few miles to many miles downtown
4)Mexico City(multiple skylines type): this city has multiple skylines small to big with no dominant skyline. Although, Reforma is slowly developing into a dominant skyline.

Nightsky Oct 25, 2007 5:07 PM

@dbee84: Thanks, I draw the diagrams in Photoshop. Only one of these four drawings are mine though.

Dequal May 15, 2008 3:31 PM

Some personal photographs of the 4 towers (30 April)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/d3qual/SB9_VeRL...i-IMG_0374.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/d3qual/SB9_XORL...i-IMG_0375.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/d3qual/SB9_ZeRL...i-IMG_0376.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/d3qual/SB9_a-RL...i-IMG_0377.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/d3qual/SB9_c-RL...i-IMG_0378.jpg

skellergroup May 16, 2008 11:37 PM

This is amazing!

Talk about a boom.

dollaztx May 17, 2008 3:26 AM

These are the mid-rises. Just playing:haha:. I have never been to Madrid but from what it has been doing lately it seems to me like one of the most modern cities in Europe and one that is really growing.

As far as Mexico City goes, I wouldnt be surprised if it ends up looking like NY one of these days. The city has spread out so much and still growing that there is nowhere to go but up. The only problem that has kept it from building up for decades and keeps it from building supertall buildings is its geological location (Tokyo also shares this problem). But with technological advances they can build them a bit taller. Is it not amazing that the 2 biggest cities in the world are built in such places?

Surrealplaces May 17, 2008 8:41 PM

Thanks for the updates!

Guillermo93 May 17, 2008 11:49 PM

Torre Repsol looks like a bigger copy of Torre CNCI in the San Pedro district of the city of Monterrey,Mexico.

here's a pic .
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4...nterreyjd5.jpg

its the one in the middle, though i'm sure u can figure it out.

arquitec Aug 6, 2009 1:42 AM

Hi

Iam to Chili in sudamerica

asi que yo hablo español:yes: :)

soy del mismo pais de Pelegrini (tecnico del real madrid) :yes: :tup: :tup: :D :notacrook:
El Real es un tremendo equipo y calma que ya ganaremos. paciencia:tup: :notacrook:


alguien que escriba ok

bouvierxtrm Nov 24, 2009 7:47 AM

I´m to chilli in sudamerica?¡?
tu ingles es pesimo, compañero, tal vez quisiste decir:
I´m from Chile, a country wich is located at south america,
x cierto los nombres de lugares NUNCA se traducen, equiparaste a tu pais con un fruto!!

MR. Cosmopolitan Dec 24, 2009 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bouvierxtrm (Post 4575266)
tu ingles es pesimo, compañero

Wow respect, no vayamos lanzando verdades a la gente. De todas formas te equivocaste, los nombres de lugares si que se traducen; ahora volvamos al tema.

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Higher89 Jan 22, 2016 9:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey1111 (Post 3116254)
I can name a few. One example, is Mexico City whose skyline is spread out or made up of many different small skylines. You could have a skyscraper here and another one five miles away. Personally, I would like the City to develop along La Reforma, the city's central core into a large dominant skyline or (type 1) skyline like Los Angeles
What's interesting is that you guys have pointed out 2 other different types of skylines::tup:

Types:
1) Los Angeles(supertall in center type) with medium sized buildings around it
2) Madrid(dominant towers in center type) with no single supertall in the middle just the dominant towers which could range from medium to supertall all about the same height and few surrounding lesser buildings if any
3) New York and Chicago(dominant towers with lesser towers type)this type of skyline has from a few dominant towers with lesser towers(small to medium) surrounding them to many dominant towers stretching from a few miles to many miles downtown
4)Mexico City(multiple skylines type): this city has multiple skylines small to big with no dominant skyline. Although, Reforma is slowly developing into a dominant skyline.

This is definitely closely related to the historical background of the city. Most European cities, and specially Madrid, have had a rich history which has left a city center full of magnificent buildings from the belle epoque of the Spanish Empire. To mantain the charm of these areas, tall buildings should be built in the otuside of the city, as the clash wouldn't really be desirable.

PedroNTC Jul 12, 2022 6:44 AM

NY is the best!
 
NY has the biggest skycrappers i ever seen. It´s amazing to walk on this city and only look to the sky to see the monumental buildings like Empire State, 9-11 or ONU building.

Alma de Nieve

MolsonExport Jul 25, 2022 6:50 PM

New York has no skyscrapers. all the buildings are low rises.


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