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Khantilever May 16, 2018 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rooster slayer (Post 8189198)
Where are those renderings?.. The ones I saw appear towers are facing slightly NE/SE, not square to the lake. I could be off tho as i had a private party in anticipation :cheers:
The first image in the Building Gallery in the main website for the development has such a shot.

Mr Roboto May 16, 2018 12:22 AM
Yawn. Wake me up if it ever gets built...

healthiswealth May 16, 2018 12:24 AM
These look incredible. They look great on the skyline and together with Tribune and Vista it'll look very blade runner-esque. As someone who came to Chicago well after the spire ordeal I think these look WAY better. The spire was out of place, tacky and very Dubai looking. I'm glad it wasn't built. Very happy!

Buckman821 May 16, 2018 12:27 AM
I wouldn't say I'm disappointed but I also can't say this exceeds expectations. IMO it's less exciting than both Vista and the Tribune Site. More or less this is on par with what we've seen for the Northeast corner of LSE. Just my 2 cents.

Via Chicago May 16, 2018 12:31 AM
people seem to be glossing over the use of terra cotta. whats the last building of this size that even utilized it? of course thats probably the first thing that will get VE'd in a couple years.

bnk May 16, 2018 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by marothisu (Post 8189159)
Well considering Chicago's downtown has grown over 10% in population since 2010, and continues to grow and Chicago has the 3rd highest increase of 6+ figure income earning households of any city in the US after NYC and LA since 2010....might be fine.. don't believe in everything you read in the media about Chicago. There's a ton (go to the Economics forum - I've done a ton of data studies on this) of stuff happening in the city that would shock most people in regards to things like what I just mentioned above (like the fact that Chicago has 2nd highest increase of any city of 6+ earning households where the main householder is under the age of 45 since 2010. More than LA, more than Houston, more than Dallas, more than San Francisco, etc).
Do you have a quick link to this economics from you talking about? Thank you

Via Chicago May 16, 2018 12:33 AM
also, i share the skepticism everything currently in the pipeline gets built. boosters gonna boost, but we're hitting frothy territory and its been WAY too long since a serious economic shock. only so many 1%ers out there

phanta721 May 16, 2018 12:39 AM
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A detail of the facade of the proposed towers at 400 Lake Shore Drive. Both buildings will be constructed of glass and terra cotta, with intricate metal detailing.
http://www.trbimg.com/img-5afb069a/t.../1250/1250x703

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5afb069a/t.../1250/1250x703

Urbana May 16, 2018 12:40 AM
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Busy Bee May 16, 2018 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 230Roberto (Post 8189192)
Me too. I almost shit my pants looking at the top of the rendering. After all it was just a bluff.
Mission: Accomplished ;)

tm30 May 16, 2018 12:43 AM
First and second impression:

This makes One Chicago Square look all the more exquisite. It feels forced to me. "Here's a million setbacks and slightly swiveled, check it out."

I'm probably in the minority, but it's not my cup of tea.

KOgc May 16, 2018 12:43 AM
I think they are using terra cotta on 111 w 57th in NYC. I bet whoever is fabricating it is probably doing their best to market it as feasible to other developers / architects - which I am really happy about - I think it's great to see different materials on all of the proposals. The key will be doing it well, but I am happy about seeing this and am really happy that the plan (at least for now) is to build them both together.

vandelay May 16, 2018 12:46 AM
Chicago dodged a bullet when the Calatrava design was sunk. This is much better. Slowly but surely Art Deco is reentering the vocabulary.

marothisu May 16, 2018 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bnk (Post 8189224)
Do you have a quick link to this economics from you talking about? Thank you
Yes.
* 6+ Figure Earning Households 2010 to 2016 by city: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1267

* By Metro area: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1275

* Above but by community area in Chicago:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1268


* $200K+ earning households by city 2010 to 2016:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1287

* 6 figure earning household change from 2010 to 2016 where householder is under the age of 45:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1330

BobbyChicago May 16, 2018 12:56 AM
Those balconies are going to be amazing (although very windy). Unfortunately the people with balconies on the East side will most be just looking at the lake from a very high footing. Tribune tower (and the third tower of Vista) will probably have a lot better views.

I have to agree with the sentiment that I'm not sure who will be purchasing all of the new very high end residential units. It seems like most $1M+ units already stay on the market for a while, and the luxury unit boom hasn't even begun yet, but I don't have any data to back that up because I don't know of a public data source that allows you to drill down at that level.

Skyguy_7 May 16, 2018 12:56 AM
That detail of the facade definitely speaks Art Deco to me. As do the Chicago school bay windows throughout. Like it a lot. B+.

toddguy May 16, 2018 1:04 AM
Very very nice...as long as it gets built and is not VE'd to death.

How long till we have a nice shot from the lake showing all the currently under construction buildings plus all of the proposals?

The real place to live would be if they built an island out on the lake.

Any other city in North America(besides NYC maybe) would be DYING with happiness at getting an 1100 footer and an 850 footer. But it is becoming almost par for the course for Chicago!-good on ya for representing the Midwest in such a fine fashion!!!! :)

SolarWind May 16, 2018 1:05 AM
Larger renderings:

http://www.400lakeshorechicago.com/assets/building-gallery/01-f2de2b4594f2dce20b03c32a8a8b3acf7678e47b42f15e4447ee3332275841e0.jpg

http://www.400lakeshorechicago.com/assets/building-gallery/02-2280dc08367d35a2b37102131900dcc9fc6783475d66a53a0b46697553c4502e.jpg

http://www.400lakeshorechicago.com/assets/building-gallery/03-69d5ba3a7cbafe787f3543d33ffd6e4c4cdc5ae57e3a97347dab6098ae6dfc8b.jpg

http://www.400lakeshorechicago.com/assets/building-gallery/04-3ca287c5770523d0cd867c169b8ec16b23b997955578dffd4e22369dbaa0627e.jpg

http://www.400lakeshorechicago.com/assets/building-gallery/05-84937235945096ce474ec00144d544f7e8a7b4b94b59445198c6dc98964bac5f.jpg

SpireGuy May 16, 2018 1:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Via Chicago (Post 8189221)
people seem to be glossing over the use of terra cotta. whats the last building of this size that even utilized it? of course thats probably the first thing that will get VE'd in a couple years.
Haha so true. If built, let's hope they keep their word and include the terra cotta.

The design is promising. Would love to see more renderings to get a better understanding of coloring and texture of the curtain wall. Looks a little like 111 W 57th in NYC, but with out the gold finds that I love.

marothisu May 16, 2018 1:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyChicago (Post 8189249)
Those balconies are going to be amazing (although very windy). Unfortunately the people with balconies on the East side will most be just looking at the lake from a very high footing. Tribune tower (and the third tower of Vista) will probably have a lot better views.

I have to agree with the sentiment that I'm not sure who will be purchasing all of the new very high end residential units. It seems like most $1M+ units already stay on the market for a while, and the luxury unit boom hasn't even begun yet, but I don't have any data to back that up because I don't know of a public data source that allows you to drill down at that level.
Actually, there was a report recently from RE/MAX stating how number of the $1M sales in the Chicago area for 1Q 2018 was the highest quarter ever since they started collecting data in 2011. The median price of these class of homes also increased by 5.5%. The number of sales in 1Q 2018 was 7.5% higher than 1Q 2017.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300639431.html


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