It's the trend. 2,000 cases / day is fine, but exponential growth requires applying restrictions before they seem necessary, otherwise it will be too late.

Crackpot.

Thoughts 'n' prayers.

Nobody knows more about everything, especially things that are not proven true, than Lord Pretend.

I understand that but our growth in cases is barely growing, absolutely nothing like what is going on in Michigan for instance.

Sure, but there are no new restrictions going on now, just a warning that if the rate continues to grow, new restrictions may be forthcoming.

I can absolutely assure you that I do not give a shit about your sympathy or lack thereof, or your hypochondria, or your well-being.

Texas is not one of the lowest per 100k.

Arkansas is currently the 9th worst per 100k. Texas is 27, so middle of the road. Texas is 12th worst in testing, so who it would probably be higher if more people tested on average.

California is doing better, 33rd in number of covid cases per 100k, with almost 30 million (!!!) more tests than Texas or Florida. With this data, California'a positive rates are far better than these states who didn't really give a shit.

You bought a bright red Porsche...that is so a mid life crisis!

^ Yep... 40 is middle age anyway but the 911 definitely confirms it :haha:

But states with zero restrictions or near zero (Texas and Arkansas, for example) are doing much better. Restrictions is the feel-good political way to deal with it but it doesn't appear to be an actual effective strategy.

Why is Texas and Arkansas doing better while not even mandating masks? Hell, my sisters school doesn't even mandate masks while kids in Chicago still aren't going to high school classes.

I am talking about in the last month.

Still not doing better than California in last month.
California is down to 2k cases a day, for awhile.

On March 25th CA had 2576 cases.
On April 4th Ca had 2688 cases.

On March 25th TX had 3367 cases.
On April 4th TX had 2935 cases.

SAME dates
NJ 4077
NJ 4363

NY 7656
NY 7997

MI 4142
MI 5797

AR 210
AR 160

I stand corrected, California is doing better than Texas, although heading in the wrong direction (slightly).

But my main point is that states that have little to no restrictions are doing better or about the same as states that are still acting like its April 2020. My point is confirmed by the above numbers. CA, NJ, NY, and MI are getting worse and this is mainly what the media is talking about when they say cases are rising in the US. No, its going up in a few select states, that also happen to have strong restrictions this far into the pandemic.

How do you explain the low and continuing lowering of the numbers in places like AR or TX? We are constantly told that restrictions are the ONLY way, well, it looks like restrictions don't make much a difference, do they?

I think there is some validity as to why states with more lax lockdowns and restrictions have faired as well as those with more stringent ones. I think there will be studies for years about what measures were effective and others aren't or were counterproductive. Here in Texas, we are wide open with no mask mandate though pretty much everyone still requires them and our positivity rate is hovering around 5%. I think with New York, they were locked down pretty hard and now with the confidence with the vaccines, warmer weather and gradual reopening, it was a perfect storm.

For once we agree on all the points you are making in this post. And I've lived in New Zealand. It's a beautiful place but they are like the Switzerland of the Anglophone world. They are encouraged by their location and small population to think they can isolate themselves from many of the world's tribulations, not just COVID.

Absolutely. And I am not saying places that have fewer restrictions and no mask mandate equals better results. Nope, I am simply stating that more restrictions are not the Ace in the Hole many act like they are. I expect politicians to accept that notion blindly because they are pandering idiots, but we could think this through a little better.

Yup.

Politicians are all about votes, not necessarily doing the right thing. They want the world to be convinced that it is THEIR actions that saved everybody, not the actions of the public who took precautions and wore masks.

The politicians pander so that they can win elections (and keep their jobs). It's the same, tired crap everywhere, and it's the price we pay as a society for allowing people to make a career in politics.

I wouldn't say 100 more cases is really a big deal when we test almost double what Texas does.
California isn't getting worse.

But Texas is getting better than what it was.

From ABC7:

COVID-19 surges across multiple states as California numbers continue to drop

By JR Stone
Tuesday, April 6, 2021 8:38AM


SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- California has the best COVID-19 positivity rate in the country. But as this good news comes, there is also bad news as other states like Michigan are dealing with a surge of cases.

"There's almost a tale of two cases right now, how to prevent cases, to how to see cases rise and we definitely don't want to see the latter," says Dr. Alok Patel of ABC7's Vaccine Team. Patel is referring to masked crowds we've seen in San Francisco -- where the COVID-19 positivity rate is 1% -- and places where we've seen COVID-19 surges like Miami, Florida -- where there are unmasked crowds and a positivity rate of 10%.

"I won't get concerned as long as they don't come here," says Markeigh Ford of San Francisco.

Doctors that we talked with are concerned though, saying that the largest surges we're seeing across the country involve young people who have expanded their bubbles and now could be facing new variants.

"By in large, young individuals in this country are not vaccinated and I'm not just talking about those who are below the age of 16 who aren't approved. I'm also talking about those under the age of 30," says Patel.

Stanford's Dr. Grace Lee says it's a race against time to get the vaccine out there and better prepare everyone for any possible 4th surge in California.

"Until we can vaccinate the population that is continuing to have high rates of infection, which is really our young adult population, it's gonna be really hard to prevent the spread or transmission of the COVID-19 infection," says Dr. Lee.

Monday night, those we spoke with in San Francisco said they feel that those here in the Bay Area have been more cautious than other places and are therefore better prepared.

"Yes for sure, I mean people are more educated here and they take more precautions in general," said Tisha Dutta and Shuvhan Doel of San Francisco.

Doctors just hopeful that Californians keep their guard up as numbers continue to drop here but rise elsewhere.

Link: https://abc7news.com/covid-surge-in-...bers/10490051/

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There’s that ridiculous word surge again. Are deaths “surging”? No they aren’t. So this increase in covid doesn’t matter because younger people get a mild cold or nothing at all. Of course there are the outlier extremely rare cases when a young person dies or gets very sick but those are outliers. This continued fear mongering by the media is absolutely insane. Nearly all of the elderly and those at risk are vaccinated; I’m vaccinated and I’m only 33. Everyone is starting to get vaccinated. This continued fear is beyond nutso and continued wearing of masks is nuts.