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ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2023 1:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9836952)
The steep road is Weyburn Place in Westwood, which was still rural-ish in 1941.

It sure was rural-ish. That's what threw me for a bit of a loop.


Below: I've circled what I believe is the hill used in the MGM short.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/p59dGZ.jpg
Detail from an April 12, 1933 panoramic view. Link

Thanks for your help, Lwize. :)
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ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2023 5:31 AM


re: Hafen House at 344 South Hill Street.


If my search results are correct I believe I've happened upon NLA's version of Ahab's White Whale. .. Link to Beaudry's original post. (including a Sanborn map)

Seller's description:.."Los Angeles CA Haven House & Cafe Cabinet Photograph 1890s Culinary History RARE."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/IndfmF.jpg


The seller's description is wrong. This is Hafen House. .not Haven House.



Here's a better look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ojCc48.png
eBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9405289)
"Known quite simply as The Cafeteria, since it was the only one west of the Mississippi—opened in the semi-basement of the Hafen House in the spring of 1905."

In the photo above it was still known as the Hafen Cafe.


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ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2023 5:35 AM

:previous:
I forgot the reverse side of the cabinet card!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/y04X5k.png

Ruth.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/Gexzg5.jpg



And the photographer's stamp.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/diD98U.jpg

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odinthor Jan 14, 2023 2:37 PM

:previous:

Great find, e_r, as it's yet more interesting than one might at first think:

Ruth Magnussen is evidently the daughter of artist Gustav(e) Adolph Magnussen

https://i.postimg.cc/fTJNwrKN/Magnus...ge-Gallery.jpg
http://bodegabayheritagegallery.com/...ave_Adolph.htm

About whom slightly conflicting info at:

http://bodegabayheritagegallery.com/...ave_Adolph.htm

and

https://www.askart.com/artist/Gustav...Magnussen.aspx

Checking through the CDs, I find (apparent typos listed as found) his addresses in LA as:

1900-1901: 344 S. Hill
1901: 402 Blanchard Music and Art Bldg., h[ome] 1355 Georgia
1902: 356 S Broadway, h 1705 Cherry
1904, 1905: 226 OT Johnson Bldg., h 945 W 36th
1906: 223 OT Johnson Bldg.
1907: 356 S Broadway rm 223
1908: 356 S Broadway rm 223, h 3809 Wesley Av
1909, 1910: 356 S. B’way rm 223, 3609 Wesley av
1911: 356 S. B’way rm 223, r[esidence] Eagle Rock av
1912: 212 W. 3d rm 400, Eagle Rock
1914: 145 S Spring rm 701, h 1466 Regent Lane
1915, 1916: 730 S Grand av rm 30, r 1466 Regina Lane
1917: 1466 Regina Lane
1918: 406 S Main rm 728, r 1644 Regina Lane
1920: 406 S Main rm 745

As we see, he was something of a wandering star in both his studio/office and his residence. But he was evidently only at Hafen House (344 S. Hill) when he first arrived in LA in 1900. I think it's likely that the two others on the upper porch are Ruth's (presumed) parents, her mother--and the artist G.A. Magnussen.

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Edit add: Ruth, born in 1894, was Ruth Marie Magnussen. More about G.A. Magnussen (whose name is spelled a number of ways here and there in the world, complicating research) at: https://ancestors.familysearch.org/e...ssen-1868-1944 .

His final address in San Francisco, according to the 1900 San Francisco Polk's CD, was 25A Belvedere St., which still exists (it was outside of the area of the fire).

ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2023 12:58 AM

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Thanks so much for the additional information, odinthor...I appreciate it. :)

I'm anxious for Beaudry (and Flyingwedge) to see the Hafen House cabinet card.

Here is FlyingWedge's answer to Beaudry's earlier post. (including a glimpes of Hafen House from a distance)



I decided to go ahead and post Flyingwedge's photograph of the Hafen House.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/68xA72.jpg
HUNTINGTON ARCHIVE

Where's Ruth?


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Flyingwedge Jan 15, 2023 4:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9839079)

That's an amazing photo, e_r! I noticed that at the top, under the OU in HAFEN HOUSE 1895, it looks like it says "No. 2" so
I checked, and there was another Hafen House. It was on a stretch of Wilmington St. that later became part of San Pedro St.,
north of Jackson St. and just south of Requena St.:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...Wilmington.jpg

1894 LA City Directory @ fold3.com


I couldn't find a photo of Hafen House No. 1, but here it is on a map, conveniently located above an agricultural implements
warehouse and next to a corral, blacksmith and stable:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ouse_No._1.jpg

1894 Sanborn Map @ Library of Congress

ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2023 8:38 PM

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um. .so the eBay cabinet card isn't the 'white whale'?

. .and Hafen Cafe didn't become The Cafeteria? :shrug:


color me disappointed.
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ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2023 10:52 PM

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Here's a RPPC (Real Picture PostCard) of a couple of spoiled lucky boys playing with a plethora of toys.

Seller's description..."USA Los Angeles, Kids Boy as Indians, Toys, Photo RPPC ~1911"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/5gXoOc.jpg
eBay



. . .and here's the back. . written in German.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/IehEyl.jpg

I'm hoping one of you noirishers knows German.

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Flyingwedge Jan 16, 2023 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9839947)
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um. .so the eBay cabinet card isn't the 'white whale'?

. .and Hafen Cafe didn't become The Cafeteria? :shrug:

color me disappointed.
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I'm pretty sure you found a photo of the correct whale, I mean, Hafen House, that Beaudry was looking for.
It's just that there were two Hafen Houses in Los Angeles . . .

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...fen_Houses.jpg

1899 Los Angeles City Directory @ fold3.com


. . . and it appears Mr. Conrad Hafen was responsible for that.


The 1914 Baist Map shows the Wilmington/San Pedro Street Hafen House on Lot 51 of the Requena Tract . . .

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...n_Pedro_St.jpg

HistoricMapworks.com


. . . which Conrad Hafen bought back in 1879:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...equena_Tr..jpg

November 23, 1879, Los Angeles Herald @ Newspapers.com


The first Hafen House was in operation by March 10, 1889:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...March_1889.jpg

January 1, 1890, Los Angeles Herald @ Newspapers.com


LATE, LATE EDIT: Here's the Hafen House in a close-up from an undated (but perhaps late 1890s?) photo looking east from the
County Courthouse:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...afen_House.jpg



And here's a wider view from the same photo, with the Hafen House at upper center. In the lower left corner is part of the
Amestoy Block on the NE corner of Main and Requena (later Market), with the United States Hotel to the right on the SE corner.
In the photo's upper right corner is a building on the NE corner of Jackson and Wilmington/San Pedro that we've seen before:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...late_1890s.jpg

"Los Angeles looking east from court house" @ UCLA


Then Hafen House No. 2 and its cafe came along:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...on_Hill_St.jpg

April 26, 1895, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...weqKRJ5DsX.jpg

January 14, 1902, Los Angeles Evening Express @ Newspapers.com



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...on_Hill_St.jpg

August 19, 1904, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com

odinthor Jan 16, 2023 2:37 AM

:previous:

A little more information:

https://i.postimg.cc/bwjpqdX1/Hafen-Newmark.jpg
From Sixty Years in Southern California, by Harris Newmark

Edit add:

https://i.postimg.cc/y8SjyYWp/Hafen-Rosedale.jpg
Grave at Rosedale; the above from Find-a-Grave at https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...2/conrad-hafen

ethereal_reality Jan 16, 2023 8:45 PM

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Here's an amateur snap-shot of a mystery garage with an impressive arched entrance and architectural detailing.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/rQ1C5D.jpg
eBay

I believe there's a street number on an iron girder just inside the arch but it's too small to read. The name of the garage is no doubt at the top of the blade sign. (impossible to read) The name might also be on the tow truck. (ditto)

The garage seems vaguely familiar so perhaps we've seen it before.





I decided to add this detail of - what I believe to me - the street number.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/AbDQyP.jpg

I'd say it's. . .three digits. :)
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ethereal_reality Jan 16, 2023 9:12 PM

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I don't get the sense that cabinet cards are very popular here on NLA but this one is so unique I've decided to post it anyway.

Seller's description:...Antique Cabinet Card, Boy Wearing Grandpa's Hat, Los Angeles California

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/jzAWZr.jpg
eBay


I would never have guessed this was taken anywhere near Los Angeles but the photographer's stamp begs to differ.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/myCDfl.jpg


Here it is with the borders. .although the top is cropped off.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/NkEvpA.jpg

I think it belongs in a museum.


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Godzilla Jan 17, 2023 1:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9840769)
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Here's an amateur snap-shot of a mystery garage with an impressive arched entrance and architectural detailing.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/rQ1C5D.jpg
eBay

I believe there's a street number on an iron girder just inside the arch but it's too small to read. The name of the garage is no doubt at the top of the blade sign. (impossible to read) The name might also be on the tow truck. (ditto)

The garage seems vaguely familiar so perhaps we've seen it before.





I decided to add this detail of - what I believe to me - the street number.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/AbDQyP.jpg

I'd say it's. . .three digits. :)
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"674" ;)



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/xBhYae.jpg





https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=28807

Martin Pal Jan 18, 2023 9:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9840007)
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. . .and here's the back. . written in German.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/IehEyl.jpg

I'm hoping one of you noirishers knows German.

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_________________________________________________________________

E_R, a friend of mine knows German...I had him translate this for us. Interesting, but not so helpful!

Translation:

Los Angeles, Christmas 1911

"It's a good thing Christmas only comes once a year,
or else I'd be tired of setting up all your toys. I may
take the opportunity of opening my own toy store with
all of your junk."

ethereal_reality Jan 18, 2023 9:45 PM

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Thanks Godzilla and Martin Pal. I knew you guys would come through. :) . . .and I thought that garage looked familiar.

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ethereal_reality Jan 18, 2023 10:00 PM

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Mayfield Used Car Lot - Burbank California - June 1955. (but where in Burbank)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/7CRU20.jpg
eBay

I imagine the people who lived in the house next door were none too pleased with the large lights surrounding the lot.




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/esfjHF.jpg
eBay





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ethereal_reality Jan 18, 2023 10:20 PM

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I don't believe we have seen this amazing accident photograph on NLA.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/yXzOz9.jpg
lacountylibrary




Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/w4LXH8.jpg
lacountylibrary

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/BuWhF6.jpg

"An accident which occurred near the Alhambra Wash. A car is seen having crashed into the fence which guards the Alhambra wash.
There is a big crowd gathered for the aftermath. A tow truck is pulling the car out. A store named Bud's Liquor is located in the background."


I'll add: Across the street there is a shoe store, dry cleaners, Greeley's Trailer Lodge. . .

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/haQpf3.jpg

. .and my Grandma Fern looking at the camera.



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AlvaroLegido Jan 19, 2023 6:28 PM

Who buys this ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9842715)
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Mayfield Used Car Lot - Burbank California - June 1955. (but where in Burbank)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/7CRU20.jpg
eBay

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/esfjHF.jpg
eBay

SIZE="1"].[/SIZE]

I can't imagine someone driving so old-fashioned cars in 1955 !

riichkay Jan 19, 2023 7:46 PM

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




I could not find Mayfield Car Co. in any of the mid-'50's books, but it appears we are diagonally opposite Stansbury Buick....from the '56 Yellow Pages....




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Mackerm Jan 19, 2023 9:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9452697)
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mystery location. . .

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/KvHklM.jpg
As you can see it was quite popular on eBay.



I don't know if this was taken while on location for one of those 1960s beach movies or if they're preparing for a fashion shoot of some kind.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/jhzDJU.jpg

If I had to guess I'd say this is somewhere. .um. .north of Malibu. ...(my Sherlock bona-fides) lol

So which one of these lovely ladies Bunny Yeager? :shrug:



The culvert reminds me of the scene in Chinatown where the bad hombres manipulate the water supply by releasing fresh water into the ocean.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by ovens (Post 9836184)
Touching up another one.... these are pretty fun to do.


https://i.imgur.com/7Pn0sDYh.jpeg

Such a great photo.

After fooling around with Google Earth, it looks like it was taken on Las Flores Beach, right beside the parking lot of the recently discussed Malibu Sea Lion restaurant.


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