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westcork May 31, 2013 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiederi (Post 6147123)
Did a search and didn't find this one posted yet. Gerald Desmond Bridge 1967. (Construction has begun on the replacement bridge.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psa9337aa8.jpg
http://www.newgdbridge.com/gallery/press_photos.asp

Odd timing. I was just looking at this drawing last night...

Rendering of the Gerald Desmond Bridge (span 5,134 ft.) located in the Port of Long Beach and connects the Ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles with the I-710. The bridge was built in 1968 as a third route onto Terminal Island to compliment Commodore Heim and Vincent Thomas Bridges, both part of California Highway 47. Gerald Desmond was a prominent Long Beach civic leader who served as a councilmember and City Attorney for the City of Long Beach.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics28/00063968.jpg
LAPL

CityBoyDoug May 31, 2013 1:01 AM

A big new bridge for big ships.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiederi (Post 6147123)
Did a search and didn't find this one posted yet. Gerald Desmond Bridge 1967. (Construction has begun on the replacement bridge.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psa9337aa8.jpg
http://www.newgdbridge.com/gallery/press_photos.asp

Here is the new Billion Dollar bridge. It will be the cable-stayed type which is all the rage these days.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps2d9a0f75.jpg

This is how you traveled from Long Beach to Terminal Island before there was a bridge. This was a floating two piece pontoon bridge. It was built during WW II and was slated to last a few months. It lasted for almost a quarter century. I rode over this bridge many times on my way to the base on T.I. Back in the day it was called "the milk run". I was stationed at Naval Station Long Beach in the late 1960s. That old Navy base is long gone and is now a Chinese container terminal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps314a96e9.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psef98c7a3.jpg

Noircitydame May 31, 2013 1:28 AM

I came across these great images in the LAPL collection - I don't recall seeing them before, and I've looked tons of times. The description says "Policeman is shown holding the door for woman entering white car." A policeman?? It's Chief of Police Two-Gun Davis! Looks like they’re on First St. in front of City Hall across from the Natick? And the cars I believe are 1934 Ford V8s – but wonder who those dames are? Love the wet sidewalk/pavement -so noir.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...iswhitecar.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...elle/davis.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011704.jpg

CityBoyDoug May 31, 2013 2:17 AM

"Vice"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 6147630)
I came across these great images in the LAPL collection - I don't recall seeing them before, and I've looked tons of times. The description says "Policeman is shown holding the door for woman entering white car." A policeman?? It's Chief of Police Two-Gun Davis! Looks like they’re on First St. in front of City Hall across from the Natick? And the cars I believe are 1934 Ford V8s – but wonder who those dames are? Love the wet sidewalk/pavement -so noir.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...iswhitecar.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...elle/davis.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011704.jpg

Not to be judgmental Noircitydame but those ladies do look a bit, shall we say "Red Light" . Super noir photos!!

Flyingwedge May 31, 2013 5:11 AM

Palm-photo-free Dr. William A. Hammel info
 
How is Dr. William A. Hammel, born in Germany, then a resident of Washington, D.C., later the builder of one of the first brick homes in Los Angeles on San Pedro Street in the mid-1850s -- which he surrounded with palm trees -- connected to the song "California, Here I Come"? Let me explain.

Dr. Hammel and his wife, in addition to begatting future Los Angeles County Sheriff William A. Hammel, also had an older daughter, Kate. In 1869 Kate married George Gard, who later became both City of Los Angeles Police Chief and Los Angeles County Sheriff (BTW, the 1931 Los Angeles Times map/model of 1881 Los Angeles has George Gard's home on San Pedro Street where the Hammel Palms were).

Among the children of George Gard and Kate Hammel was Georgetta Gard. Georgetta married actor Hal De Forrest, whose real name was Aloysius J. De Sylva. In 1895 Georgetta and Aloysius had a son whom they named George Gard De Sylva. He grew up to be known as Buddy DeSylva, songwriter ("California, Here I Come" "April Showers", among others), film producer (20 Century Fox, Paramount), and record executive (a founder of Capitol Records).

In 1934, James Elwood Webb designed a bookplate for DeSylva:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psd1d22bf5.jpg
Antiquariat.de -- http://www.antiquariat.de/tigross.js...&orig=1&head=2

The text under the small house at the top of the page says, "Brick House Built 1853 In Los Angeles By Dr. William A. Hammel." Is this the house behind (north of) the famous Hammel/Arcade Palm? I dunno. But Buddy knew who his great-grandpa was, anyhow.

Info from: http://archive.org/stream/illustrate...e/486/mode/2up and http://www.askart.com/AskART/artists...&artist=109421 and http://www.allmusic.com/artist/buddy...a-mn0000638913 and http://www.nndb.com/people/361/000205743/

tovangar2 May 31, 2013 6:39 PM

:previous:

Thx! Fascinating :-)


His Walk of Fame star is outside the Capital Records building, 1750 N Vine
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...72013%2BPM.jpg
http://projects.latimes.com/hollywoo...uddy-de-sylva/

Oviatt Building Fan May 31, 2013 7:42 PM

Amazing mid-1930s movie studio stock footage of a drive from the Hollywood area down to the Wilshire district ... I think. Or maybe it's just along Wilshire Boulevard. Lots of great buildings and signage throughout.


Click on: http://youtu.be/rkkjpDmf7zw

rbpjr May 31, 2013 8:38 PM

This is how you traveled from Long Beach to Terminal Island before there was a bridge. This was a floating two piece pontoon bridge. It was built during WW II and was slated to last a few months. It lasted for almost a quarter century. I rode over this bridge many times on my way to the base on T.I. Back in the day it was called "the milk run". I was stationed at Naval Station Long Beach in the late 1960s. That old Navy base is long gone and is now a Chinese container terminal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps314a96e9.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psef98c7a3.jpg[/QUOTE]

I was stationed at the Pacific Reserve Fleet in 1952 on a destroyer tender at the end of the causeway at the Naval Station on Terminal Island...we maintained a couple of dozen mothballed destroyers at that time. I was wondering if the pontoon bridge was between Terminal Island and Long Beach? The picture doesn't look familiar but it may have been there in 1952.

tovangar2 May 31, 2013 10:24 PM

New town?
4.5" X 6.75" B&W photo:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...913%2520PM.jpg
hb surfer / eBay



Drive-in dress shop, 13 Oct 1936, Los Angeles
7" X 9" original press photo
(note the Johnnie Walker billboard)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-C...847%2520PM.jpg
afox11 - auctions / eBay

ethereal_reality May 31, 2013 10:37 PM

:previous: What are the people standing on in the first photo? It's like 'stairs to nowhere'.

Graybeard May 31, 2013 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6148821)
:previous: What are the people standing on in the first photo? It's like 'stairs to nowhere'.

Whatever it is, it's the largest one.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9397/largeyd.jpg

ethereal_reality May 31, 2013 11:15 PM

:previous: Good eye Graybeard. I didn't see that.

CityBoyDoug May 31, 2013 11:54 PM

The old pontoon bridge....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 6148659)
This is how you traveled from Long Beach to Terminal Island before there was a bridge. This was a floating two piece pontoon bridge. It was built during WW II and was slated to last a few months. It lasted for almost a quarter century. I rode over this bridge many times on my way to the base on T.I. Back in the day it was called "the milk run". I was stationed at Naval Station Long Beach in the late 1960s. That old Navy base is long gone and is now a Chinese container terminal.

I was stationed at the Pacific Reserve Fleet in 1952 on a destroyer tender at the end of the causeway at the Naval Station on Terminal Island...we maintained a couple of dozen mothballed destroyers at that time. I was wondering if the pontoon bridge was between Terminal Island and Long Beach? The picture doesn't look familiar but it may have been there in 1952.[/QUOTE]

rbpjr....yes, the old WW II pontoon bridge was in place and being used in 1952. It was the only East-West road connection to Terminal Island. There was a North-South road connection to T.I. that utilized the railroad drawbridge and the East connection was by ferry boat.
This is the Northside lift bridge.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse912a276.jpg
T.I. is to the Left. Photo above is looking West.

This is how you accessed T.I. before 1968*. Pontoon bridge, lift bridge and the Ferry Boat. Since then there have been many changes. [* In 1961 a large bridge was built to connect San Pedro and T.I. The Ferry Boat service was discontinued at that time]..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s8ab1d2f2.jpeg[/SIZE]

mdiederi May 31, 2013 11:59 PM

Here's another interesting photo of the Gerald Desmond, not sure what's going on with that plane in the water. Don't know the date, but the old-style cargo crane suggests it was a few decades ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...pse29395a7.jpg
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/wor...te-bridge.html

And another of the pontoon bridge. There are still working oil wells in that area.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...pse3fe9736.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/90456/rec/24


I've been driving across the Gerald Desmond twice a week lately and posted a photo of the construction for the new bridge in the Los Angeles Metro Development thread. So far they are just drilling holes in the ground still and will probably take another four or five years to complete.

KevinW Jun 1, 2013 12:11 AM

That plane in the water is the one and only Spruce Goose with Howard Hughes at the Controls on its maiden (and only) flight.


[QUOTE=mdiederi;6148909]Here's another interesting photo of the Gerald Desmond, not sure what's going on with that plane in the water. Don't know the date, but the old-style cargo crane suggests it was a few decades ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...pse29395a7.jpg
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/wor...te-bridge.html

CityBoyDoug Jun 1, 2013 12:19 AM

WW II...again
 
[QUOTE=KevinW;6148925]That plane in the water is the one and only Spruce Goose with Howard Hughes at the Controls on its maiden (and only) flight.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiederi (Post 6148909)
Here's another interesting photo of the Gerald Desmond, not sure what's going on with that plane in the water. Don't know the date, but the old-style cargo crane suggests it was a few decades ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...pse29395a7.jpg
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/wor...te-bridge.html

That floating crane [Right side] is the famous German Heavy Lifting Crane that the US seized after WW II. It was named "Herman The German". It was towed over from Germany, through the Panama Canal and up the coast. Its now been given to Panama. The date of this photo is year 1980. That's when the huge plane was moved to its new hangar next to the Queen Mary ship. The plane is now in Oregon state.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=4086,6322937

Flyingwedge Jun 1, 2013 12:23 AM

[QUOTE=KevinW;6148925]That plane in the water is the one and only Spruce Goose with Howard Hughes at the Controls on its maiden (and only) flight.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiederi (Post 6148909)
Here's another interesting photo of the Gerald Desmond, not sure what's going on with that plane in the water. Don't know the date, but the old-style cargo crane suggests it was a few decades ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...pse29395a7.jpg
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/wor...te-bridge.html

KW, I think the photo shows the Spruce Goose being moved from its Hughes hangar in 1980 for display next to the RMS Queen Mary.

KevinW Jun 1, 2013 1:15 AM

You're so right. I should have noticed the distinct lack of engines on the plane... I had no idea they had it in the water when they moved it. Although I'm probably thinking of when it finally left L.A.

ethereal_reality Jun 1, 2013 1:41 AM

Terminal Drug Co. at 798 S. Central Avenue & E. 8th Street, circa 1933.

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/60/aab...ntral1bter.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/


2011. The sealed off building today/actually the southwest corner of the Terminal Market
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/225/aa...ntraltoday.jpg
gsv




Aerial view of the Terminal Market. (I've outlined the Terminal Drug Store in red)

1930s
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/1840/aab8thaerial1v.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/90051/rec/2




Terminal Drug Store detail
http://imageshack.us/a/img708/8028/a...ntral1cope.jpg




Looking east on E. 8th Street toward S. Central Avenue and the Terminal Drug Store.

1933
http://imageshack.us/a/img594/5189/a...ntral1look.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/






Looking south on S. Central Avenue toward E. 8th Street and the California Bank. The Terminal Drug Store is on the left.

1933
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/1651/aa...ntral1933u.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/



detail
http://imageshack.us/a/img853/8807/a...ntralbank1.jpg

I like the clock in the wall and the 'walk-up' teller window.

http://imageshack.us/a/img839/1783/a...cwalkupwin.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/




An interesting building on the southeast corner of the E. 8th Street & S. Central Ave.(California Bank is on the right)

http://imageshack.us/a/img196/5395/a...hcentral1a.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/





Looking along the east side of S. Central Ave. (with Terminal Drugs at left)

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/3691/aab...ntral1933a.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/


detail of the block south/I'm surprised to see a Wings Place.
http://imageshack.us/a/img818/1052/a...bwingsplac.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/




same view today. blah! -from vibrant to sterile.
http://imageshack.us/a/img208/7960/a...ntral1933b.jpg
gsv
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westcork Jun 1, 2013 3:47 AM

May Co under Construction 1939 "Vintage Los Angles"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC_LfsFZw4k


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