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Steely Dan Aug 31, 2022 6:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoatman (Post 9717215)
no way a supertall gets built there, that area is basically the south loop.

In what universe is 130 NORTH Franklin considered the south loop?

nomarandlee Aug 31, 2022 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lakeshoredrive (Post 9717686)
I had a dream the other night that I was a multi billionaire developer and that I purchased this parcel and the parking lot next to it. Then I hired Jeanne Gang to design a supertall office tower for my corporation. I told her I wanted it to be inspired by the design for One Vanderbilt in NYC, for the lobby/atrium to be open and at least 100 feet tall (think of Oscorp lobby from The Amazing Spider-Man 1), a winter garden that is 100 feet tall somewhere around middle to top of the building, and for the building to be 1800 to 2000 feet tall. Jeanne told me she was up for the challenge and told me she would create a beautiful and functional supertall that would complement the Sears Tower.

:haha: Gold

left of center Sep 1, 2022 1:26 AM

Insane that its been 20 years already. What a waste. RIP old CME. Screw the Crown family.

Steely Dan Sep 2, 2022 3:08 PM

^ it should be straight up criminal to do what they did. :hell:

we could've had this proud handsome building enriching our downtown landscape for the past 2 decades instead of the total fucking blight of a surface parking lot without end.


https://www.emporis.com/images/show/...ast-corner.jpg
Source: https://www.emporis.com/buildings/11...chicago-il-usa


maybe the next cycle..... or the one after that..... or the one after that..... or the one after that.....

maybe my future grandchildren will one day get to lay their own eyes upon the glorious and historic parking lot of franklin/washington!

Chisouthside Sep 2, 2022 3:28 PM

The worst part is that even if we do get something built it would most likely be taller than the old CME building but it would probably be like most of the recent office towers with a park or something so it wont take up the entire lot therefore have less street level density than the old cme.

rivernorthlurker Sep 2, 2022 3:31 PM

Yeah this and the Garrick are unforgivable. The difference being the Garrick was torn down in 1961 while this in 2003 which is inconceivable to me.

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 9719746)
^ it should be straight up criminal to do what they did. :hell:

we could've had this proud handsome building enriching our downtown landscape for the past 2 decades instead of the total fucking blight of a surface parking lot without end.


https://www.emporis.com/images/show/...ast-corner.jpg
Source: https://www.emporis.com/buildings/11...chicago-il-usa


maybe the next cycle..... or the one after that..... or the one after that..... or the one after that.....

maybe my grandchildren will one day get to lay their own eyes on the glorious and historic parking lot of franklin/washington!


IrishIllini Sep 2, 2022 3:42 PM

Still can't believe this was torn down in 2003...Nearly 20 years later, we still have a vacant lot in the middle of downtown. It's more bizarre than the vacant lot on S Michigan at 9th.

left of center Sep 2, 2022 6:19 PM

It was over 95% occupied at the time as well! The building was in excellent structural condition, and earning revenue. The only reason I could conceive of them wanting to rush the demolition is because they wanted to secure a future development site here before the building could get landmarked. The city honestly dropped the ball by not putting legal protections on this building when it had the opportunity.

Absolutely criminal.

Zapatan Sep 2, 2022 11:26 PM

Ridiculous, doesn't surprise me from everything I've heard about Chicago politics (and Illinois in general).

Given the recent disappointments in the city I'd say we're overdue for something amazing, like what Salesforce should have been.

Bonsai Tree Sep 3, 2022 7:45 AM

While I'm certainly disappointed in the actions of 20 years ago, I don't think it's the best representation of today's Chicago. We, as a city, have (hopefully) moved on, and I don't think it's in the best prudence to bring up 1000' pie-in-the-sky skyscrapers as copium. This city is very complex. It is no NY. We have many intricate problems, politics, and peoples that make us not NY. I'm tired of individuals making the height argument here.

donnie Sep 3, 2022 2:49 PM

/\ preach!!!

Handro Sep 3, 2022 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonsai Tree (Post 9720696)
While I'm certainly disappointed in the actions of 20 years ago, I don't think it's the best representation of today's Chicago. We, as a city, have (hopefully) moved on, and I don't think it's in the best prudence to bring up 1000' pie-in-the-sky skyscrapers as copium. This city is very complex. It is no NY. We have many intricate problems, politics, and peoples that make us not NY. I'm tired of individuals making the height argument here.

I wouldn't be so sure we've moved on considering how close those two buildings on State are to being demolished for very specious "security" concerns.

galleyfox Sep 3, 2022 4:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Handro (Post 9720853)
I wouldn't be so sure we've moved on considering how close those two buildings on State are to being demolished for very specious "security" concerns.

That’s the Federal Government. The GSA doesn’t have to listen to a couple of paranoid likely-suburban headcases.

Otherwise the city would have just eminent domained the two buildings long ago.

HomrQT Oct 9, 2022 4:51 AM

Did they get an extension on this project or did the approval from the city expire?

dweeprise Oct 10, 2022 6:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HomrQT (Post 9755748)
Did they get an extension on this project or did the approval from the city expire?

looks like it has expired: https://gisapps.chicago.gov/gisimage...pds/PD1293.pdf

r18tdi Oct 11, 2022 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dweeprise (Post 9756467)

Good riddance, the updated design for the office tower was a VE'd box with none of the angled glass. They should consider building 600 - 800 apartments here instead.

twister244 Oct 11, 2022 4:24 PM

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Originally Posted by r18tdi (Post 9757129)
Good riddance, the updated design for the office tower was a VE'd box with none of the angled glass. They should consider building 600 - 800 apartments here instead.

I would prefer to see someone propose an ambitious building here at some point. But yeah, happy to see this one die.

BuildThemTaller Oct 11, 2022 4:25 PM

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Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 9757139)
I would prefer to see someone propose an ambitious building here at some point. But yeah, happy to see this one die.

I thought the proposed building was ambitious, unless you are suggesting something eclipsing 900 ft.

UrbanDweller98 Oct 11, 2022 4:39 PM

With Google coming to the Loop in 4 years this will be the perfect spot for a residential or mixed-use supertall

lakeshoredrive Oct 11, 2022 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanDweller98 (Post 9757158)
With Google coming to the Loop in 4 years this will be the perfect spot for a residential or mixed-use supertall

I agree. Fingers crossed something excellent can be built here.


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