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Tetsu Sep 5, 2013 1:15 AM

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Originally Posted by belmont bob (Post 6254703)
From January 1968 until September 1980 I worked for the Electro Music Company in Pasadena. This was the company that Don Leslie began after WW2, and was purchased by CBS Inc. in 1966 along with Fender Guitar in Fullerton as the start of a musical instrument division. I knew Don Leslie personally and was the cabinet engineer and designer of many Leslie models.
His business during those first years after the war was so fragile that he would never let customers see his very small facility in west Pasadena. Laurens Hammond would have gladly put him out of business but I think he underestimated him and probably never saw the CBS buyout coming. After Hammond’s death, the two companies got together in 1968 and produced the first Leslie to be sold with a new Hammond Organ. In 1980, Hammond bought the company from CBS and moved the manufacturing to the Chicago area. Don Leslie had retired by that time.
During much of the late 60’s and into the early 70’s Leslie manufactured about 100 speaker systems a day. But the market began to dry up with advancements in electronics, and today a small number of the products are still manufactured for the “purists” who will never settle for digital sound.
I have a soft spot for Leslie because that’s where I met my wife. It was nice little company to work for but they didn’t pay worth a crap!

Hey, where was the Electro Music Company located? As a musician, local architecture/history enthusiast, and Pasadena resident, this interests me on so many different levels!

Those Who Squirm! Sep 5, 2013 3:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 5662123)
I would appreciate a little help here.
When I first moved to Los Angeles in '79 I took residence at this building on the corner of Wilshire Blvd. and Veteran in Westwood.
The address was 10990 Wilshire Blvd. A high-rise office building stands there now directly across Veteran from the Federal building.
Here you can see the ariel photo of the building just to the right of the Fed building across veteran Ave.:

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-54-R3-25-ISLA

I would very much appreciate any more photos or stories that anybody can find about this building (I already know about Chris' Water Buffalo club - funny story/history)

When I lived there the main front business was The Who's Who Passport Photos with bar around the corner sporting the same name where I spent many blissful hours....

I believe the building was originally called The Barbizon or Barbazon Chateau.

My apt. was at the bay window, 2nd floor just to the right of the round tower. Jonathan Dayton co-director of Little Miss Sunshine lived across the hall from me then in the apartment with the square window, 2nd floor, far right. He was attending UCLA Film School and hired us musicians to play at "Kerckhoff Coffee House" being in charge then:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...os/WhosWho.jpg

This street photo is by Anne Laskey:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...LaskeyAnne.jpg

http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/D...wdate=&hidate=

I would appreciate if anybody could find more photos or history on this building.

I remember that building! In particular, I remember the art school or gallery that existed on the first floor, where they always had some small paintings on view in the windows. They were usually surrealist in the style of Tanguy, Dali, or Chirico and I always lingered there when walking by. As well as I can remember this was some time during the 1970s which probably doesn't help much.

Mstimc Sep 5, 2013 3:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 6254931)
Maybe it is some sort of community bulletin board (?). That wouldn't explain why it is basically on open-framed box, unless different items were hung from it.

It kind of looks like a cage to protect a street/sidewalk tree from damage. That could explain the "stick"--could be a new sapling.

Those Who Squirm! Sep 5, 2013 4:02 AM

Love it, love it, love it. Now that's what I call transit interoperability.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5662864)
Here's another 'mystery' photo from ebay. The only information given was 1920s Los Angeles.

I know there are several knowledgeable transit fans that visit the thread, and was hoping one could identify this odd looking contraption.

To me it looks like a trolley rear ended a car.



http://imageshack.us/a/img190/9540/a...sit1920sla.jpg
found on ebay


belmont bob Sep 5, 2013 4:37 AM

Leslie speakers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 6255119)
Hey, where was the Electro Music Company located? As a musician, local architecture/history enthusiast, and Pasadena resident, this interests me on so many different levels!


Tetsu…The original factory building was located in Pasadena on the west side of Fair Oaks just north of Del Mar. During my tenure it was the home of a fully functional pipe organ which was used by organist George Wright, and later converted into an engineering/R & D facility for Electro Music. It is long gone. The main factory and office building was a circa 1960 tilt-up on the south side at 56 West Del Mar. The building is still there and houses a Salvation Army store. It’s pretty much a Plain Jane building.
I’m an architectural history buff myself and the building that has always held a fascination with me is south of the Salvation Army building on Waverly Drive. This old brick building which probably goes back a 100 years and may have been some kind of factory in its day. It was owned by Cal Tech back in the 60’s as a storage building for old stuff no longer needed or brand new stuff still in the original packing (bought with your taxpayer money by the school with no immediate need). I can’t make out the sign shown on Google Earth, but it appears that the school may no longer own it. I got to tour it when CBS was considering buying it for expansion of Electro Music in the 70’s. Since you’re in Pasadena, go by that building and maybe check it out. I’d love to know the history. I’m 30 miles away so I don’t get to that area very often. Check out Historical Aerials.com. The oldest view is 1953 shows the old brick building. http://www.historicaerials.com/
Just so you know, after the company was bought by Hammond in 1980, I moved to the sister company Fender Guitar in Fullerton and was with them until they packed up and moved to Scottsdale in 1991. But the big Fullerton factory is gone. I worked in guitar and amplifier manufacturing and also in the R & D group and designed audio products including amps and mixers. A fun place to work but they didn’t pay work a crap either!

BTW, looking at the Google Earth street view on the old brick building you can make out the very faded remains of a sign painted on the east side. Back in the old days the building was white-washed, so a good exercise would be to try and read the old sign.

Wig-Wag Sep 5, 2013 4:35 PM

White Railbus
 
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Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6255267)
Love it, love it, love it. Now that's what I call transit interoperability.

This is a 1920's White "Rail Motorcar", towing a trailer. From the early 1900's through the late 1940's "railbusses" as thy were more commonly called offered the railroads a less expensive alternative to steam powered passenger trains as a means of providing passenger services in areas where such traffic was light.

Two things cause me to question the location of the photo. First, to the best of my knowledge neither the Pacific Electric or the three major steam railroads (SP, UP, Santa Fe) operated While railbusses in the Los Angeles area. Second, the vegetation and the track width. The former looks tropical and the latter appears to be broad gauge (5-foot).

The one city that could bring all these elements together would be Los Angeles, Chile.

Cheers,
Jack

H.L.P Sep 5, 2013 5:20 PM

Hey everyone, I was in the local Highland Park record shop
and came across this Taj Mahal record, I immediately recognized
the building as The Salt Box. I got a kick out of it,
I thought you guys might too.

http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/27/zepr.jpg
photo by me

Tourmaline Sep 5, 2013 5:37 PM

Heard the Desmond Tower is allegedly . . . gulp . . . to be surrounded by two smaller towers. Newspaper article supports this story and states the plans have been approved and work has begun.

http://parklabreanewsbeverlypress.co...d-on-wilshire/

http://miraclemilela.files.wordpress...1929.jpg?w=720http://miraclemilela.files.wordpress...1929.jpg?w=720

Blaster Sep 5, 2013 6:15 PM

[QUOTE=Tourmaline;6255863]Heard the Desmond Tower is allegedly . . . gulp . . . to be surrounded by two smaller towers. Newspaper article supports this story and states the plans have been approved and work has begun.

From my reading it sounds like the new apartment structure will be built BEHIND the Desmond on existing parking lots. Hopefully that won't affect the Wilshire facade. (Fingers crossed)

GaylordWilshire Sep 5, 2013 6:23 PM

:previous:

Whoa... Actually, according to this article, the towers once planned for the lot behind Desmond's, later scuttled, have morphed into a single seven-story building. At first I thought you meant that there were now going to be two towers over the Dunsmuir and Burnside ends of the Desmond building--I wouldn't have been surprised.


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059106.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059088.jpg


Both LAPL

fhammon Sep 5, 2013 7:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H.L.P (Post 6255841)
Hey everyone, I was in the local Highland Park record shop
and came across this Taj Mahal record, I immediately recognized
the building as The Salt Box. I got a kick out of it,
I thought you guys might too.

http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/27/zepr.jpg
photo by me

Good eye H.L.P and thanks for the photo.
I have that album somewhere... great stuff.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...3/Salt_Box.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Salt_Box

I just noticed Godzilla posted the same thing awhile back.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10177

The search function is crap here...
In order to search Salt Box (which defaults to "box") you have to search "SaltBox"

fhammon Sep 5, 2013 7:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6255232)
I remember that building! In particular, I remember the art school or gallery that existed on the first floor, where they always had some small paintings on view in the windows. They were usually surrealist in the style of Tanguy, Dali, or Chirico and I always lingered there when walking by. As well as I can remember this was some time during the 1970s which probably doesn't help much.

Thanks for noticing and remembering, Those Who Squirm.
I have fond memories of that place and time.
I'm going to search for more photos.

10990 Wilshire Blvd - corner of Wilshire and Veteran

Tourmaline Sep 5, 2013 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6255938)
:previous:

Whoa... Actually, according to this article, the towers once planned for the lot behind Desmond's, later scuttled, have morphed into a single seven-story building. At first I thought you meant that there were now going to be two towers over the Dunsmuir and Burnside ends of the Desmond building--I wouldn't have been surprised.


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059106.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059088.jpg


Both LAPL






Didn't mean to misrepresent the facts, whatever they are. I heard one thing and then found the linked article. The article was hardly definitive. The text under the photo says 175 units. I also read 175 units and two towers. Then there is something about "revised entitlements process" and a seven story U-shaped complex. Depending upon how seven stories are counted, that might be one half the height of the preexisting tower. Surprised there was doubt whether the main structure was to be refurbished - unless there is an assumption that it is to be deferred pending completion and occupancy of the seven story structure or structures.



Article regarding 5 major construction projects on La Brea: http://la.streetsblog.org/2012/06/19...sform-la-brea/



I am informed that there are several hundred units nearing completion on the southeast corner of Wilshire and La Brea. (Artist's rendition?)
http://www.trbimg.com/img-501f48ea/t...g-20120805/600http://www.trbimg.com/img-501f48ea/t...g-20120805/600




GW posted a photo of a Jeep Dealership on the corner of 4th and La Brea. I am told that entire structure has been raised and is being replaced by a megastore.

The tower in the skyline will soon be joined by the large structure above ^^^
http://d2uaszwku8m8xd.cloudfront.net...lopment.-1.jpghttp://d2uaszwku8m8xd.cloudfront.net...lopment.-1.jpg

http://d2uaszwku8m8xd.cloudfront.net....-1.jpghttp://

http://d2uaszwku8m8xd.cloudfront.net...ard-LaBrea.jpghttp://d2uaszwku8m8xd.cloudfront.net...ard-LaBrea.jpg

Those Who Squirm! Sep 5, 2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5675881)
i wonder why they moved greyhound to skid row? the first time i took the bus (97 or 98)my dad took me to 6th and main and he was so confussed that the station wasnt there,so we drove to hollywood and bought my ticket there.also on the 1965 greyhound station you can still see the ghost logo for greyhound,i noticed that when i was at coles a few months ago

Is 1716 East Temple in Skid Row? Is it even in downtown Los Angeles?

The move baffles me, too. Here we have an expanding rail transit centered around 7th Street Metro Center and Union Station, with most of the downtown bus lines also terminating in that general area, and now they put the bus station a mile or two away from any of that.

unihikid Sep 6, 2013 2:57 AM

[QUOTE=Those Who Squirm;6256347]Is 1716 East Temple in Skid Row? Is it even in downtown Los Angeles?

The move baffles me, too. Here we have an expanding rail transit centered around 7th Street Metro Center and Union Station, with most of the downtown bus lines also terminating in that general area, and now they put the bus station a mile or two away from any of that.[/QUOTE

the old building which is across from the PE building(not the first station which is on the northeast corner) is pretty big,im told it housed a drug store too.my guess was that storage for the buses was a problem.but size wise it looks to be the same size as the new station.

Those Who Squirm! Sep 6, 2013 5:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5683034)

below: La Vista Court is a short, dead end street so the google-mobile passed it by (probably on his way to lunch) :(

*snip*

Hopefully the next time the google-mobile visits Los Angeles, they will include DEAD END STREETS!

___


Google may be your friend, but once in awhile Microsoft is a better one. Bing Maps has it, for both bird's-eye view:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3693/9...d0d390ff_c.jpg
Microsoft Bing Maps

...and for Streetside. The Pegman is just passing the house in question:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5524/9...e6177dd9_c.jpg
Microsoft Bing Maps

Bing Streetside is buggier and less comprehensive than Google SV, but I've occasionally been pleasantly surprised to find that Streetside covers an interesting street which Google hasn't gotten around to yet.

Tetsu Sep 6, 2013 8:01 AM

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Originally Posted by belmont bob (Post 6255303)
Tetsu…The original factory building was located in Pasadena on the west side of Fair Oaks just north of Del Mar. During my tenure it was the home of a fully functional pipe organ which was used by organist George Wright, and later converted into an engineering/R & D facility for Electro Music. It is long gone. The main factory and office building was a circa 1960 tilt-up on the south side at 56 West Del Mar. The building is still there and houses a Salvation Army store. It’s pretty much a Plain Jane building.
I’m an architectural history buff myself and the building that has always held a fascination with me is south of the Salvation Army building on Waverly Drive. This old brick building which probably goes back a 100 years and may have been some kind of factory in its day. It was owned by Cal Tech back in the 60’s as a storage building for old stuff no longer needed or brand new stuff still in the original packing (bought with your taxpayer money by the school with no immediate need). I can’t make out the sign shown on Google Earth, but it appears that the school may no longer own it. I got to tour it when CBS was considering buying it for expansion of Electro Music in the 70’s. Since you’re in Pasadena, go by that building and maybe check it out. I’d love to know the history. I’m 30 miles away so I don’t get to that area very often. Check out Historical Aerials.com. The oldest view is 1953 shows the old brick building. http://www.historicaerials.com/
Just so you know, after the company was bought by Hammond in 1980, I moved to the sister company Fender Guitar in Fullerton and was with them until they packed up and moved to Scottsdale in 1991. But the big Fullerton factory is gone. I worked in guitar and amplifier manufacturing and also in the R & D group and designed audio products including amps and mixers. A fun place to work but they didn’t pay work a crap either!

BTW, looking at the Google Earth street view on the old brick building you can make out the very faded remains of a sign painted on the east side. Back in the old days the building was white-washed, so a good exercise would be to try and read the old sign.

belmont bob, fascinating info, thanks! Had no idea that Leslie was once right in the neighborhood. I'm familiar with the Salvation Army store. Been there many times and even had a few friends that used to work there.

So, this brick building you speak of - I'm guessing you mean this one, located at 55 W. Waverly:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps69ccf9a6.jpg

It reminds me of the buildings you find in the northeast industrial/warehouse section of Downtown LA. I actually did find a little info on it. You were right! It is indeed almost 100 years old, built in 1925 and designed by an architect by the name of E. Vanden Hoven. Found the info here: http://pasadena.cfwebtools.com/searc...splay=resource

Highly recommend this site as a whole - Pasadena has catalogued and documented just about every architecturally significant building in the city and the database is here. Guaranteed hours of fun browsing!

AlvaroLegido Sep 6, 2013 8:38 PM

Noirish lighting ?
 
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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6241953)
[
1925 - particularly noirish lighting :coolugh:
http://collection.pasadenadigitalhis...XT=&DMROTATE=0

I guess you all know that "NOIR' in French means "BLACK". Movies like "Double Indemnity" were called "black movies" by French film critics. "NOIRISH" comes from that (and from Ethereal_Reality too).
So "noirish lighting" may sound absurd to Frenchs : "blackish lighting".

Well, it's the sharp contrast between the black color and subtle doses of sharp light that makes the wonder of these moods.

sleepynoir Sep 6, 2013 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyberider (Post 5427920)
This is a wonderful thread and I've been lurking here for months. Especially enjoyed all the Bunker Hill photos and info. Many thanks to all the contributors.

Strangedays, is that 1939/41 map available somewhere online or do you have a copy of it? Being a PE/LARy and map fan, I'd love to see the whole thing.

Thanks,
Dave

Dave, I've locked myself out of that account, but I've uploaded a few maps including that one and it is too huge to post here maybe, a wall map.

https://secure.flickr.com/photos/sleepynoir/

The pictures of the Baldwin Hills are from the book by French, Virginia Fonseca, 1970, Rancho La Cienega O Paso De La Tijera, J. D. Roche, Los Angeles.

Thanks again to all who contribute to this thread.

Those Who Squirm! Sep 6, 2013 9:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6256734)
Google may be your friend, but once in awhile Microsoft is a better one.

...

...and for Streetside. The Pegman is just passing the house in question:

....

Bing Streetside is buggier and less comprehensive than Google SV, but I've occasionally been pleasantly surprised to find that Streetside covers an interesting street which Google hasn't gotten around to yet.

Turns out what I thought were bugs are features. Bing Streetside is gradually being replaced by Streetslide (don't ask!), and in this newer version it's no longer possible to virtually walk along the street. To get to another location, say three doors down the street, you have to back out of the street-level view and return to the overhead or bird's-eye view map, and then click three doors further down the street. This is already in place for NYC, another city I happen to be particularly interested in and where I was trying to look at Doyers Street ("The Bloody Angle") in lower Manhattan. I couldn't get the pegman and thought it was a bug.

Why would Microsoft trash the functionality of their product this way? Oh, right. Never mind.


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