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NYguy Mar 12, 2016 2:22 AM

NEW YORK | Hudson Yards | VESSEL | 154.6 FT
 
The new centerpiece of the Hudson Yards is to be unveiled in July...


http://wwd.com/retail-news/retail-fe...-cos-10387536/

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“I see Hudson Yards as an episode within the city,” says William Pedersen, founding design partner of Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates, which is the architect
for the 10 Hudson Yards and 30 Hudson Yards office buildings....

“The key is going to be this sculptural piece,” he adds. “The beauty of the Eiffel Tower is that it is participatory. You ride up it. This is going
to be participatory as well. It’s not as tall. It will be more civic. It can contain more people.
It will be symbolic of community, of people
enjoying a place. It will allow the other buildings to rally together, creating an ensemble of buildings....

At the 90-story, 30 Hudson Yards, “the drama is going to reside in the observation deck,” Pedersen says. “You come out 80 feet into the air, just a little bit
higher than the Empire State Building. The real excitement is getting out on the prow. We put a circular opening through it, so you can stand and look
straight down through a glass opening.”



I'm excited for this, even though I'm not sure what it is. But it's clear that the Hudson Yards won't just be a collection of skyscrapers.

The Heatherwick piece will go here...



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NYguy Mar 16, 2016 2:32 AM

This larger image gives a better view of the plaza where the piece will go...



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http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/li...es/residential

shadowbat2 Mar 16, 2016 8:07 AM

Just googled Thomas Heatherwick....really looking forward to this :)

NYguy May 2, 2016 3:09 PM

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...e-eiffel-tower

Hudson Yards sculpture to cost $200M and be like ‘Eiffel Tower’

By DANA RUBINSTEIN
May. 2, 2016


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The Thomas Heatherwick sculpture that will grace the public plaza at Hudson Yards will cost $200 million and “will become to New York what the Eiffel Tower is to Paris," said Hudson Yards developer Stephen Ross on Monday.

Its design has been shrouded in secrecy, and will "hopefully," remain so at least until September, Ross said.

That's when the developer expects to unveil the design of a sculpture poised to ocupy a plaza "bigger than Trafalgar Square."

"It will be very iconic," said Ross, the chairman of Related Companies. "And they’re very bold statements, I know that.”

Citing a source who saw the Heatherwick design, in 2015 a New York Times critic said that Heatherwick "envisioned a 'vessel' that could occupy a large part of the plaza, shot through with dozens of stairways. Shaped like a chalice, it would rise higher than the adjacent, cavernous Culture Shed, the 100-foot-high international arts center also planned for Hudson Yards."

Construction is expected to be complete in 2018.

Heatherwick is also designing Pier55, the Barry Diller-funded island off Hudson River Park.

In 2013, Ross put the Heatherwick price tag at up to $75 million.

He made today's cost estimate at a breakfast hosted by Crain's New York.

chris08876 May 2, 2016 8:34 PM

:star: Economic Report: https://www.scribd.com/doc/311107012...-Impact-Report


Study: Hudson Yards Will Add $18.9 Billion to the City’s GDP

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According to a recent study, economic activity at the $20 billion Hudson Yards West Side development–the nation’s largest construction site–will contribute $18.9 billion to the city–more than the gross domestic product of Iceland ($15.3 billion), Crains reports. The study, commissioned by the project’s developer, Related Cos., predicts that the companies projected to occupy the massive project that will stretch between West 30th Street and West 34th Street along the Hudson River will generate economic activty in the form of, among other things, salaries for new jobs and money paid to the MTA by the developer both during the 14-year construction period and once the development is complete in 2025.

According to the study, “Three years into a 14-year construction program…the bet is beginning to pay off.” The project includes 10.4 million square feet of office space, eight residential buildings, retail and a cultural center.

The report estimated that 2,767 construction jobs would be created each year during the build-out period. Once complete, Hudson Yards is expected to employ 56,000 full-time employees earning $9.8 billion annually in total (an average of over $175,000 per worker). The Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which owns the rail yards above which most of Hudson Yards will be built, will receive a total of $1.8 billion in lease payments from Related during the build-out period, and payments of $89 million annually once the project is complete, in addition to $68 million annually as payments in lieu of taxes that the city will use to pay down its debt service for the No. 7 train extension which opened late last year.
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1) http://www.6sqft.com/study-hudson-ya...the-citys-gdp/
2) http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/160429834

NYguy May 2, 2016 9:32 PM

Ross also said earlier that the structure would "contain more people" than the Eiffel Tower. Still trying to get a visual on it, but with the steady stream of people coming from the High Line alone, this will become a major draw.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/02....html?referer=


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His latest project for the Hudson Yards on the Far West Side of Manhattan may become a new city landmark; for now it remains shrouded in secrecy. Stephen M. Ross, chairman of Related Companies, a Hudson Yards developer, compared it to the Eiffel Tower in Fortune magazine two years ago, but one person who saw the design at that time described a concept much more grandiose than the developers’ original idea for a sculpture on a plaza fronting Hudson Yards’ vertical mall.

Mr. Heatherwick envisioned a “vessel” that could occupy a large part of the plaza, shot through with dozens of stairways. Shaped like a chalice, it would rise higher than the adjacent, cavernous Culture Shed, the 100-foot-high international arts center also planned for Hudson Yards. Related and the co-developer, Oxford Properties, refuse to discuss Mr. Heatherwick’s design.


NYguy May 3, 2016 7:52 PM

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...developer-says

$200M Hudson Yards Sculpture Will Be NYC's Eiffel Tower, Developer Says


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By Maya Rajamani
May 3, 2016


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A $200 million sculpture coming to a plaza in the Hudson Yards could become the Big Apple's answer to the Eiffel Tower, a developer said on Monday.

Speaking at a Crain’s real estate conference, Related Companies Chairman Stephen Ross said he believes the yet-to-be-revealed sculpture designed by British artist Thomas Heatherwick will “become to New York what the Eiffel Tower is to Paris,” Crain’s New York reported.

Back in 2013, Ross — whose firm, along with Oxford Properties Group, is developing part of the Hudson Yards on Manhattan’s West Side — estimated the sculpture would cost about $75 million.

Heatherwick’s studio has designed a number of high-profile projects, including the Olympic Cauldron at the 2012 Olympic Games in London and the Shanghai World Expo 2010’s “UK Pavilion,” according to his website.

“It will be very iconic… very bold statements, I know that,” Ross reportedly said.

He added that the sculpture’s design will “hopefully” remain under wraps until September or later, Politico New York reported.

The plaza where it will reside will be “bigger than Trafalgar Square” in London, Ross said.

streetscaper Sep 14, 2016 3:41 PM

Here it is folks:


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Big, bold and basket-shaped, the structure, “Vessel,” stands 15 stories, weighs 600 tons and is filled with 2,500 climbable steps. Long under wraps, it is the creation of Thomas Heatherwick, 46, an acclaimed and controversial British designer, and will rise in the mammoth Far West Side development Hudson Yards, anchoring a five-acre plaza and garden that will not open until 2018. Some may see a jungle gym, others a honeycomb.

...Currently under construction in Monfalcone, Italy, the bronzed-steel and concrete pieces that make up “Vessel” are not to be assembled on site until next year, but on Wednesday, Related Companies is rolling out the design with a splashy Hudson Yards event.
NYTimes

streetscaper Sep 14, 2016 4:07 PM

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from Vertical Gotham on Yimbyforums

NYguy Sep 14, 2016 4:39 PM

http://fortune.com/2016/09/14/stephe...-hudson-yards/

This Monument Could Be Manhattan's Answer to the Eiffel Tower


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It was perhaps the greatest mystery in the world of urban design–what exactly was the great monument that Stephen Ross pledged to plant in the gigantic public plaza of the Hudson Yards? For years, it was well known that Ross, founder and chairman of the Related Companies, was auditioning almost a dozen of the world’s top sculptors and designers for the job, a list rumored to include Maya Lin, Richard Serra, Jeff Koons, and Zaha Hadid. And Ross himself was promising a one-of-a-kind spectacular that would dwarf any public monument Manhattan had welcomed in decades, and reign as an irresistible magnet for tourists from around the globe.

At 11:30 a.m. on September 14 (the precise time this story first appeared), Ross unveiled the plans for the project at an extravaganza in at a nearby park attended by New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, and featuring a dance performance conceived for the occasion by the Alvin Ailey troupe. The drawings and models display something on a scale exceeding, in cost, size and engineering complexity, any public monument furnished by a private developer in modern times.


As it turns out, the work isn’t a sculpture as you might expect, but a towering, bowl-shaped lattice of circular staircases designed by Britain’s Thomas Heatherwick, a specialist in big public installations who created the famous flaming cauldron that symbolized the 2012 London Olympics, and is helping design the reimagined Google campus in Silicon Valley. The structure, named “Vessel” by Heatherwick, fans out from a relatively small base like a Grecian urn, ascending 150 feet or the equivalent of 15 stories, its polished, copper-colored stainless steel skin reflecting the images of the folks strolling in the plaza below. If all goes as planned, it’ll open to the public in late 2018.

It’s not just meant to be ogled, but trod upon. “Vessel” is a sort of a towering jungle gym. Young and old alike will climb 2,500 steps over 154 flights of stairs, connected by 80 landings festooned with benches from which visitors can enjoy Hudson River views. Visitors will walk a full mile when making the round trip from the plaza to the summit and back. The cost, fully paid by the developers: $200 million.

“I wanted to commission something transformational, monumental!” Ross told this reporter during an interview in August, where he provided a preview of “Vessel,” on the condition that the information be embargoed until the September 14 debut. “I wanted something that defines a city like the Eiffel Tower in Paris or the Saint Louis Gateway Arch. In December, everyone who comes to Manhattan wants to visit the Christmas Tree in Rockefeller Center. This will be the equivalent of the Christmas tree twelve months a year.”

More in the article...

NYguy Sep 14, 2016 5:03 PM

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ardecila Sep 14, 2016 5:48 PM

Holy.... this is indeed iconic, and has an elegance that I didn't see in Anish Kapoor's monstrous London tower. It's not easy to just create another Eiffel Tower... especially when China or Dubai will just do it bigger and faster. Pretty cool Escher inspiration, as well.

:worship::worship:

NYguy Sep 14, 2016 6:15 PM

I was worried it might be too big and overwhelm the plaza, but its just right.

Eidolon Sep 14, 2016 6:19 PM

Looks like a beehive, I'd know since I cleared a few of them out my summer home's wood shed a few weeks ago.

I don't know how to feel about it until I see it though, but here's to hoping...
:cheers:

streetscaper Sep 14, 2016 6:25 PM

https://imgs.6sqft.com/wp-content/up...s-Vessel-5.jpg

NYguy Sep 14, 2016 7:10 PM

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http://www.wallpaper.com/architectur...ew-york#172355

pico44 Sep 14, 2016 8:21 PM

For the last couple years, I have been curious how they could fit an Eiffel Tower-like icon in the middle of this plaza. Now we have an answer. You can't. Of course you can't. Not that this isn't great. It is. But it ain't no Eiffel Tower. Not remotely close. Always better to under-promise and over-deliver rather than the other way around.

jsbrook Sep 14, 2016 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pico44 (Post 7561430)
For the last couple years, I have been curious how they could fit an Eiffel Tower-like icon in the middle of this plaza. Now we have an answer. You can't. Of course you can't. Not that this isn't great. It is. But it ain't no Eiffel Tower. Not remotely close. Always better to under-promise and over-deliver rather than the other way around.

Doesn't have to be the same size as the Eiffel Tower to be equally iconic, though I don't think this is or will be. It's growing on me. I think I like it. I look forward to seeing the finished result in person.

Speculator Sep 14, 2016 9:08 PM

New York's Eiffel Tower?

NYguy Sep 14, 2016 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jsbrook (Post 7561472)
Doesn't have to be the same size as the Eiffel Tower to be equally iconic, though I don't think this is or will be. It's growing on me. I think I like it. I look forward to seeing the finished result in person.

Right, that was never a reference to height. That would be absurd, considering it will be surrounded by towers as tall or taller than the Eiffel Tower. It will be an iconic structure/structure that will come to symbolize the new New York of the Hudson Yards. The area, already flowibg with tourists due to it's connection to the High Line, will become one of the must see destinations. It will be something you can experience, rather than just look at. New York is lucky enough to have multiple such icons- the Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building, Brooklyn Bridge, etc. This, along with others such as the NY Wheel, will be among the new icons of this century. There was a New York that existed before those older icons. But we can only imagine NY with them now. It will be no different for the new.

jsbrook Sep 14, 2016 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 7561630)
Right, that was never a reference to height. That would be absurd, considering it will be surrounded by towers as tall or taller than the Eiffel Tower. It will be an iconic structure/structure that will come to symbolize the new New York of the Hudson Yards. The area, already flowibg with tourists due to it's connection to the High Line, will become one of the must see destinations. It will be something you can experience, rather than just look at. New York is lucky enough to have multiple such icons- the Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building, Brooklyn Bridge, etc. This, along with others such as the NY Wheel, will be among the new icons of this century. There was a New York that existed before those older icons. But we can only imagine NY with them now. It will be no different for the new.

I am a big fan of the WTC performing arts center as a new icon. The renders look phenomenal, especially the nighttime renders. The overall complex is really shaping up. I think the Culture Shed in Hudson Yard's will also be great. Here's to new icons! (whether they rival the Eiffel Tower or not). It's all about space making, which is what Hudson Yards and WTC are both setting out to do in ways we haven't often seen. I think they will be successful.

NYguy Sep 14, 2016 11:58 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/hudso...erpiece-2016-9


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NYguy Sep 15, 2016 12:12 AM

http://www.architecturaldigest.com/s...icks-unveiling

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The tower, which is being fabricated in Italy at an estimated cost of $150 million, will be able to accommodate up to 1,000 people at once. It’s been christened Vessel—“at least until someone comes up with a better, funnier, New Yorkier name,” Heatherwick said. At an unveiling ceremony this morning in Manhattan, emceed by Anderson Cooper and attended by New York mayor Bill de Blasio, Ross said, “Everyone who comes to New York visits the Christmas tree at Rockefeller Center. We were looking for a 365-day Christmas tree.”


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=1#post7561718

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“This is ultimately a Keep Fit project,” says the British designer Thomas Heatherwick of his new $150m commission for New York, unveiled today in Hudson Yards, the major redevelopment project on Manhattan’s West Side. Made of 154 interlinked staircases and 80 platforms, that add up to nearly 2,500 steps, Heatherwick’s Vessel will serve as the centrepiece of a five-acre public square and gardens built over a city rail yard.

“The idea was that we could make something that you could get up at 6am every morning and you’re walking up the equivalent of 16 storeys,” Heatherwick tells The Art Newspaper. “It’s an achievement to get to the top and get back down.” The designer points to a particularly New York way of life that manages to include fitness in a busy schedule. “I remember coming to New York as a teenager and I’d never seen people in suits with bright white trainers—just powerwalking to work,” he says.

.....“Rather than make something that you just look at, and you’re supposed to clap and admire in some way, we were interested in how we could make it have a different social function,” Heatherwick says. “In a space that can hold thousands of people, the notion was not really just making a thing, it was about lifting the people up to see each other.”

The designer is also quick to emphasise that the point was not to create another monumental sculpture. “There’s a 1200-ft high tower, which will have NY’s highest observation deck next to it. It’s really more about this human scale,” Heatherwick says. “There’s often city bashing, people being very negative about what a city is. But looked at from another angle, a city is a very special thing. The way, when a city works well, we protect each other, we protect strangers.” Perhaps that is why in the renderings, the piece resembles a giant openwork hive, with people buzzing around its various levels.


James Bond Agent 007 Sep 15, 2016 12:16 AM

Escher comes to life.

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antinimby Sep 15, 2016 12:33 AM

It's cute and is a cool piece of work in its own right but it is nowhere near the iconic level of the Eiffel Tower.

Also, what's the point for climbing to the top? What exactly are you going to see from the top that you can't from ground level and even if there is something you can see, is that really worth the climb?

streetscaper Sep 15, 2016 1:15 AM

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Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 7561756)

Also, what's the point for climbing to the top? What exactly are you going to see from the top that you can't from ground level and even if there is something you can see, is that really worth the climb?


I will definitely be climbing to the top primarily to see this spectacular view (below). Don't know where else in the world (let alone "ground level") you can see something like this (especially on such a monumental scale)



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antinimby Sep 15, 2016 1:31 AM

Well, yeah if you're talking about the structure itself but I was thinking more in terms of the surrounding view.

streetscaper Sep 15, 2016 4:09 AM

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Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 7561836)
Well, yeah if you're talking about the structure itself but I was thinking more in terms of the surrounding view.

Well you asked "Also, what's the point for climbing to the top?" and I gave you an answer I think would apply to most people's desires when visiting the structure.
"The point" might not end up principally being to look at the surrounding view, it might very well be to look at the internal view.

streetscaper Sep 15, 2016 4:27 AM

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antinimby Sep 15, 2016 4:39 AM

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Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 7562021)
Well you asked "Also, what's the point for climbing to the top?" and I gave you an answer I think would apply to most people's desires when visiting the structure.
"The point" might not end up principally being to look at the surrounding view, it might very well be to look at the internal view.

While you brought up a good point that the view "in" might actually be more interesting, and which I hadn't thought of at first and which I don't necessarily disagree with, I do however think that the average visitor will not be aware of that. For most people, going up a structure, it's the view out that is normally the goal.

JACKinBeantown Sep 15, 2016 12:14 PM

It looks really cool.

Sadly, I predict that it could be a popular destination for those wishing to jump.

alex1217 Sep 15, 2016 2:14 PM

I wonder if not having any disability access will affect the final design?

forj Sep 15, 2016 2:57 PM

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Originally Posted by alex1217 (Post 7562370)
I wonder if not having any disability access will affect the final design?

do we know as a fact that it doesnt have disability access? the internal view is looking down some sort of section that isnt steps.. i figured that could be an elevator or something. would be a pretty big oversight on the part of the designer not to include disability access

frabjous Sep 15, 2016 3:14 PM

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Originally Posted by forj (Post 7562451)
do we know as a fact that it doesnt have disability access? the internal view is looking down some sort of section that isnt steps.. i figured that could be an elevator or something. would be a pretty big oversight on the part of the designer not to include disability access

It says in the NYT article that it will have an elevator to the top. I'm sure that the ADA applies to this structure.
This is definitely going to be called "the hive" by locals.

Jonovision Sep 15, 2016 4:09 PM

I can't quite tell from the renderings and I didn't see it mentioned in the article, but will it be completely enclosed? Is there glass in those large openings and a roof of sorts overhead?

While I think the aesthetic of it being open to the elements is really nice, its not practical all year round. Can you imagine having to shovel all those stairs after a snow storm?!

De Minimis NY Sep 15, 2016 4:09 PM

I’m blown away. For me, the design greatly exceeds the hype.

NYC is full of beautiful views, but unfortunately the chaotic nature of pedestrian traffic often makes it difficult to casually wander the streets and take them in. Everyone walks with a purpose—outside of our parks, you’re basically always on a human conveyor belt.

(You may remember that the original Midtown East rezoning proposal sought to remedy this very problem by widening the median on Park Avenue to create a new pedestrian pathway in the center).

This design addresses that problem in such a creative way. It adds a mile of extra sidewalk above our heads, created specifically for just standing around and enjoying the moment, with completely unique views inside and out, and happens greatly increase the pedestrian holding capacity of the plaza in the process.

Think about the winding paths of Central Park… they’re really pretty inconvenient for cutting directly from one side of the park to the other, but that’s not the point. They were designed for nice strolls around the park, where the objective isn’t to get anywhere, just to enjoy the walk. This takes that centuries-old concept and pulls it up into the air, conjuring up a mile of pathways on a relatively tiny footprint (note that the base is actually quite small). Below you have a canopy of overhang to stand under in the rain or for shade. The reflective materials create thousands of unique views of stairs in all directions (as mentioned by others, very Escher-esque), and will become extreme Instagram fodder like the cloud gate has in Chicago.

It’s like nothing anywhere else in the world, and will surely become a major landmark the moment it is finished.

ardecila Sep 15, 2016 7:13 PM

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Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 7561756)
It's cute and is a cool piece of work in its own right but it is nowhere near the iconic level of the Eiffel Tower.

Well, of course not. Iconic status is earned over time. Buildings and structures become icons, but they don't start off that way.

LouisVanDerWright Sep 15, 2016 8:44 PM

Serious question: how is this thing going to be ADA compliant? Is there an elevator hidden somewhere? Or does it not have to be since it is "art" and not a building?


Edit: someone asked this above, whoops.

aaron38 Sep 15, 2016 9:03 PM

In the image that looks straight down to the center, the thing at the bottom of an image looks to me like a lift that slides up/down at an angle. Look at the bottom, there's a railing with side openings, and that cart thing would slide down to fit.
If that isn't a lift than what is it? It breaks the symmetry if it has no function.

aaron38 Sep 15, 2016 9:05 PM

As for the structure itself, it's interesting but what does it do? The Eifel Tower is huge by Parisian standards, towering over the city, it's a landmark that can be seen. This is buried inside a group of towers. Where can it be seen by except there in the plaza?
That and it's inverted, it doesn't soar. It reminds me more of a children's play house, more than something to be inspired by.

forj Sep 15, 2016 9:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7563080)
Serious question: how is this thing going to be ADA compliant? Is there an elevator hidden somewhere? Or does it not have to be since it is "art" and not a building?


Edit: someone asked this above, whoops.

yep, it looks like in this view you are looking down the elevator, which appears to be a curved design of some sort. will be interesting to see more details about the whole thing

and my guess is, since this does appear to be completely open design with no walls or ceiling, that they will have heated floors or something like that to melt any ice or snow that accumulates.. maybe they have some type of surface that prevents slipping if its raining as well.. which i would recommend hah

didnt see this video posted

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artspook Sep 16, 2016 7:00 AM

Heatherwick's 15 story Vessel . .
is grossly nowhere near as impressive,
as the Eiffel Tower . . duh ! . . of course . .
Ross was foolish to have prophesied such a daunting achievement . .
this dashed-expectations design . .
reminds me of Ingles' gauche birthday-cake building . .
turned upside down . .

the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge Ferris Wheel . .
will probably be a more fun trip . . especially at night . .
with the view of the vast, graceful bridge form, in the foreground, . .
lit, . . with the contrasting, infinitely-black, empty-void of the ocean behind . .
and of course the bay view . . framed in the distance . .
by the magnificent Jersey City-Manhattan-Brooklyn Skyline . .

and for a better view, . . I think I'd also prefer
the nearby observation deck of 30 HY tower . .
Of course, Heatherwick & Ross's showy $150M exercise-hamper is free . .
and maybe this thing will grow on me, somewhat . . perhaps a little . .
if somehow I'd have a ball . . climbing up into it, in the future . .
I can't imagine that happening . . but I'll try it . .

It's a lot of steps to sweep clean . . garbage blowing around . .
and with all of that dead, harsh shiny silvery glass . .
and mostly mediocre architecture surrounding it . .
no impressive falls or fountain water-feature, inside (or outside) to view . .
on a hot 95 degree day in August . . a chilly 30 degree windy day in February . .
rain, etc . . I'd skip it . . Will it be adventurous, or a dead zone chore . .
How about visiting the transit hub ? . .

Ross's bombastic Busby Berkeley basket . .
might be a clunky counterbalance to the Culture-shed . .
and, like the culture shed, it'll never be universally acclaimed . .
as a magnificently attractive visual or architectural form . .
Sure it'll be a big hit when it opens in a year or 2, . . cause it'll be "the new thing" . .
But will that enthusiasm last for 10 years ? . .
I won't say that it won't . . But I will say . .
this HY centerpiece should've been a lot better . .
Better than nothin ? . . no doubt . .

mrnyc Sep 16, 2016 1:10 PM

yes for sure very escher. that was an inspiration. we always like sites with views of course so that was thoughtful and and i like that it has such an active focus. sure its corporate, but not bad for a change. in fact, glancing over heatherwick's other work it appears he upped his game and outdid himself here. it looks like it will be fun to check out and climb around on.

UrbanImpact Sep 16, 2016 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by forj (Post 7563126)

It looks like the ramp/lockish type structure at the bottom will be the lift.

NYguy Sep 17, 2016 1:37 AM

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Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 7561811)
I will definitely be climbing to the top primarily to see this spectacular view (below). Don't know where else in the world (let alone "ground level") you can see something like this (especially on such a monumental scale)



http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...dens-below.jpg


Yes, I will be climbing up there many times. I wonder how many people will try and make it to the top only to find they're not in as great a shape as previously thougt...:???: lol

But it will be great to watch the hive of human activity circulating in and around this thing. This is the west side's "times square", without all of the flashy lights and (maybe) the costumed characters, though I'm sure they will have a presence there.




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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown (Post 7562205)
It looks really cool.

Sadly, I predict that it could be a popular destination for those wishing to jump.

Someone said the same thing to me about the WTC oculus. My answer was that the city if full of destinations for those wishing to jump.





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Originally Posted by De Minimis NY (Post 7562585)
I’m blown away. For me, the design greatly exceeds the hype.

NYC is full of beautiful views, but unfortunately the chaotic nature of pedestrian traffic often makes it difficult to casually wander the streets and take them in. Everyone walks with a purpose—outside of our parks, you’re basically always on a human conveyor belt.

Yeah, this will be a great "watching" space.




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Originally Posted by aaron38 (Post 7563113)
As for the structure itself, it's interesting but what does it do? The Eifel Tower is huge by Parisian standards, towering over the city, it's a landmark that can be seen. This is buried inside a group of towers. Where can it be seen by except there in the plaza?
That and it's inverted, it doesn't soar. It reminds me more of a children's play house, more than something to be inspired by.


The structure itself will loom at the terminus of the Hudson Blvd & Park. The hordes of tourists from the High Line will feed in as well. Times Square isn't something necessarily visible from a distance, but it's jam packed daily. This will be no different. Anyone who has ever visited the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree around the holidays (itself as iconic as anything in New York) can tell you how iconic this thing can be. Think Rockefeller Christmas tree year 'round.



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NYguy Sep 17, 2016 2:02 AM

LARGE RENDER warning...



http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/co...ick-Studio.jpg
http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/pr...public-spaces/

C. Sep 17, 2016 2:26 AM

This. Is. Fucking. Cool.

I'm very excited to experience this when done.

citybooster Sep 18, 2016 4:59 AM

It's the ultimate high line...no, it's not the Eiffel Tower by a long shot in terms of obvious soaring impact but with its maze of stairs and floors and an incomparable view going to the top of the surrounding area it's going to be a real cool destination people are going to love. That whole plaza with the great Shed nearby is going to be a wonderful addition to New York... and the best thing is it's for the public to enjoy.

NYguy Sep 19, 2016 5:56 PM

^ Yes, a nice give back to the City.


http://archpaper.com/2016/09/thomas-...-yards-unveil/


http://archnews.wpengine.com/wp-cont...k-IMG_4375.jpg



https://www.6sqft.com/revealed-thoma...rds-sculpture/


https://imgs.6sqft.com/wp-content/up...3875289495.jpg



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401PAS Sep 19, 2016 6:57 PM

I am not understanding the black ramps and flat areas at the top. Are these going to be accessible to the public as well?

Also wonder about the fact that the elevator which would be the only way that a disabled or someone who couldn't climb 15 flights of stairs could get to the top can get around other than the landing plateau. Just doesn't seem very accessible to anyone who is not able to make the entire flight of stairs. Unless someone can explain this form of access better.


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