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antinimby Jan 29, 2017 4:41 PM

^ I don't get your criticism of this structure. It is a form of art. There is no wrong or right. No good or bad. It's all subjective anyway. What you call "vomitous" is awe-inspiring for somebody else.

Anyway, it'll be another point of interest for the city, which will make the city that much more interesting. Would you happier if there was nothing there instead?

NYguy Jan 29, 2017 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 7693708)
Anyway, it'll be another point of interest for the city, which will make the city that much more interesting. Would you happier if there was nothing there instead?


Exactly, it will be one of the new, non-skyscraper icons of the city. It's interesting to watch this begin to take shape along with the New York Wheel on Staten Island. New York is never done, so everything you think you know about NY is just part of a larger story still being told (think of it that way).

This structure, like the NY Wheel, like the new parks and attractions being built around the city, after they're built and have taken their rightful place in the city fabric, will seem as natural as the Empire State or Central Park in belonging here. There was a time when NY didn't have those either. I'm sure there were those who thought putting that statue of a woman in the harbor (of all places), was a ridiculous idea too. There's a critic for everything.



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artspook Jan 30, 2017 3:39 AM

Would you happier if there was nothing there instead? . .
- antinimby
Maybe not . . there are cool things about it . .
it has texture, it is very interactive, a good place to exercise . .
but for all its focal positioning, expense, energy, material & hype . .
I also see a big, hyper-complex, tedious picnic-basket . .
a severely symmetrical geometric form of common proportion . .
an Escher-esque nightmare . . generating "stress-producing" vibes . .
rancorous enough to agitate our urban experience . .
It's a perfect location for shooting high-anxiety movie scenes . .
like Hitchcock's Vertigo . .

It's a design that's anything, but soothing . .
like a refreshing grand fountain . . or an unusual water feature . .
It's not a graceful architectural monument, . .
or preeminent landscape-engineering feature.
We might've had an supremely vertical avant-garde abstraction . .
with phenomenal 22nd-century night-lighting aspects . .
(no Koons steel-balloon dog) . . something aesthetically wonerful . .
in contrast to the mostly undistinguished HY glass building shapes . .

The intrusive bulky vessel, next to the boxy culture-shed . .
both in such close proximity . . awkwardly similar in volume and proportion
. . seems to hijack what could've been a beautiful open sweep . .
of a landscaped avenue handsomely joining the plaza . .

there's a critic for everything - NYguy
Most opinions on the forum are not witlessly unfounded . .
Everything that's built isn't great . . they ripped down Penn Station to build MSG . .
think the Colosseum complex at Columbus Circle . .
What about that modern mistake blocking the entrance
to McKim, Mead & White's Brooklyn Museum entrance . .

I know. We are getting this exact The Vessel.
So, should we just shut up already, & like it ? . .
everyone roll over & let developers promise glorious focal points . .
surpassing even the Eiffel Tower, . . then allow them to deliver
monstrous picnic baskets instead . . Thank you, your omnipotence ! . .
It is our city as much as theirs . . As a citizen of NYC, I reserve the right
to bitch . . then change my mind . . perhaps, eventually learn to like it . .

NYguy Feb 6, 2017 1:56 PM

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Originally Posted by artspook (Post 7694168)
It's a design that's anything, but soothing . .
like a refreshing grand fountain . . or an unusual water feature . .


there's a critic for everything - NYguy
Most opinions on the forum are not witlessly unfounded . .
Everything that's built isn't great . . they ripped down Penn Station to build MSG


Oh please. No one said you had to like it. The fact remains, not everything is liked by everyone. Don't just assume everyone loves the Eiffel Tower or the Statue of Liberty. Lots of people hate Times Square, some think Central Park is too big and overrated. There are those who insist a walk across the Brooklyn Bridge is pointless. I get all of that. But you know what? None of that matters, because those places are iconic and draw crowds anyway, critics be damned. So the point is not to insists that YOU personally like it, but to understand that it will be everything Related intended it to be. Just sit back with your arms crossed and watch everyone else who will, enjoy it.



https://therealdeal.com/2017/02/06/b...in-future-nyc/


February 06, 2017
By Kathryn Brenzel and Miriam Hall


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Just as construction was set to begin on the honeycomb-like sculpture planned for Hudson Yards, Related Companies’ CEO Jeff Blau noticed a problem: all the pieces were piled up in the wrong railyard. The copper-clad steel pieces were marooned on the Western Yards, and despite painstaking planning to transport the parts from Italy, no one accounted for one crucial part of the trip.

“Well, we figured out how to build it in Italy, ship it through the canals, across the ocean, into New York, onto the truck, across the bridge, down West Side Highway — we can’t get it across 11th Avenue,” Blau recounted at a panel Friday night. The weight of the cargo, it turns out, exceeded what’s permitted on 11th Avenue, so Related will have to add extra support to the roadway to get the pieces over to the Eastern Yards.

The 16-story sculpture, designed by Thomas Heatherwick and dubbed “the Vessel,” will cost $180 million (a higher price tag than announced in September because it includes other associated costs, like landscaping). Blau envisions the piece as a “365-day a year Christmas tree” that will be a must-see for all New York City visitors, something of a Rockefeller Center on the Far West Side.

Blau discussed the project at a panel on Friday held by Hundred Stories and the 92nd Street YMCA as part of a real estate summit entitled “City of Tomorrow.” Blau shared the stage with two other giants in the development community, Harry Macklowe and Ian Schrager, to discuss how they and their peers are shaping the city’s skyline.

When the moderator asked how the developers think about their responsibility to the city beyond their individual buildings, Blau cited the Vessel — which will have some 2,500 steps that visitors can climb — and the six-acre public open space at the center of Hudson Yards as an example of how developers can contribute to the public good.


streetscaper Feb 6, 2017 4:30 PM

Oh man, I wonder how much extra time that means in terms of them resuming construction of the Vessel

mrnyc Feb 6, 2017 5:00 PM

so the stairs came all this way and now they cant get it across the street? thats pretty funny actually. oh the humanity, right? yeah there will be some delay. i'm sure they can work it out.

artspook Feb 15, 2017 1:28 AM

Just sit back with your arms crossed
and watch everyone else who will, enjoy it. - NYguy

I love all the things you mentioned . . Eiffel Tower, Statue of Liberty.
Times Square lights in the rain . . always see the value of Central Park . .
I once thought a walk across the Brooklyn Bridge was pointless . .
until I did it a few times . . but I always thought it beautiful . .

I just don't find this thing attractive . .
all those perfect, affluent, squeeky-clean, revoltingly-happy people . .
(as pictured in the promotional renderings) . .
enjoying themselves so thoroughly, . . in, on, & around this "sculpture" . .
they just look so incongruent, . .
juxtaposed with the tediously depressive "Vessel" . .

anyway, . . since this is what we're getting,
I certainly do hope that everybody enjoys it . .
and that not too many of them fall to their death . .

TowerDude Feb 19, 2017 6:55 PM

I wonder if they might erect another crane to transfer the parts of Vessel across 11th Avenue ... might be less expensive than strengthening the road ...

NYguy Feb 21, 2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by artspook (Post 7712374)
I certainly do hope that everybody enjoys it . .
and that not too many of them fall to their death . .

Maybe you should forward your concerns to Related, along with your acceptable number of "death falls". Maybe they can post the limit on site. And certainly, you should stay away.

NYguy Feb 21, 2017 11:45 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQrcKVqDtRn/

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The crane is in place to hoist up Thomas Heatherwick's epic sculpture, the Vessel. Composed of 154 interconnected staircases, I can't wait to see what the views will be like from its interior.

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citybooster Feb 22, 2017 1:31 AM

Very nice... how long should it be before the sculpture is fully assembled?

NYguy Feb 23, 2017 2:07 AM

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Very nice... how long should it be before the sculpture is fully assembled?

Haven't looked at that, but it will be interesting to watch this take shape along with the NY Wheel on Staten Island. Both similar, yet different projects that will become icons in the new New York.

artspook Feb 23, 2017 5:34 AM

" . . certainly, you should stay away." - NYguy

not a chance . . I'll have to see all the merriment . .
beautiful, happy, carefree families . . well-dressed, casually strolling about . .
skipping up the stairs 2 at a time . . ice-cream cones dripping . .
cavorting with their balloons and bubble gum . .
hanging precariously over the edge snapping selfies . .

Perhaps there'll be tuckered out, tormented trouble-makers . .
congregating nefariously in Vessel . . chucking trash down stairs . .
committing rape, murder, suicide, and seditionary acts ? . .
trashy hookers on level 7 1/2 . .

NYguy Feb 25, 2017 1:31 AM

^ Of course.



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chris08876 Mar 11, 2017 4:22 PM

High Quality Rendering:

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Design-mind Mar 11, 2017 5:57 PM

:slob: Wow! This area is going to be so stunning!

UTEPman Mar 12, 2017 10:44 PM

Anyone else think the Vessel looks like some kind of alien ribcage?

Not really digging it, honestly.

TowerDude Mar 13, 2017 2:22 AM

Its inspired by Indian Step Wells:
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NYguy Mar 13, 2017 3:14 PM

From earlier today.


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NYguy Mar 15, 2017 1:34 AM

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