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GaylordWilshire Oct 19, 2011 12:55 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAPL

ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2011 6:53 PM

The J.J. Haggarty in Beverly Hills.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9409/sisshown.jpg
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ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2011 7:10 PM

A smoggy day in downtown Los Angeles, circa 1948. You can faintly see the "It's in the Examiner" sign above the building on the right.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3...asmog19481.jpg
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I love the extremely long shadows in the lower portion of the photo. This pic. must have been taken very early in the morning.
(or it could have been very late afternoon I guess)

I was also wondering....were there more than one "It's in the Examiner" sign downtown, or is this
the same sign as in the photo below.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3168

GaylordWilshire Oct 19, 2011 7:11 PM

What a great shot of BH, e_r-- how almost bucolic the town looks. That little cottage office at right... The sign at left looks like it's for a restaurant of some sort, but I can't quite make out the sign. Anyone know what the restaurant might have been? Mildred's?

ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2011 7:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5449846)
What a great shot of BH, e_r-- how almost bucolic the town looks. That little cottage office at right... The sign at left looks like it's for a restaurant of some sort, but I can't quite make out the sign. Anyone know what the restaurant might have been? Mildred's?

I can't make out that sigh either GW. Strangely enough, I see a sign middle left that says "I'm Victor Hugo". What's up with that?

Here's the pic. again.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9409/sisshown.jpg
usc digital archive

Also notice that a street cleaner had just shot a U in the lower left. (but did they have street cleaners back then?)
I also like how the derby would fix nicely on the dome. I have a pretty vivid imagination. :)

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 19, 2011 9:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5449878)
I can't make out that sigh either GW. Strangely enough, I see a sign middle left that says "I'm Victor Hugo". What's up with that?

Here's the pic. again.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9409/sisshown.jpg
usc digital archive

Also notice that a street cleaner had just shot a U in the lower left. (but did they have street cleaners back then?)
I also like how the derby would fix nicely on the dome. I have a pretty vivid imagination. :)

Not absolutely positively sure about this, but I seem to remember seeing a slightly different angle of the area during this same time period and the sign is for The Ambassador Hotel Pump Room.

Also, Victor Hugo's Restaurant was at 235 N. Beverly, so that could be the explanation for the curious sign.

No clue on the street cleaners :D

~Jon Paul

ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2011 10:53 PM

The J.J. Haggarty residence at 3330 West Adam Blvd. was dubbed "The Castle".

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/30/...artycastle.jpg
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http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3...artycastle.jpg
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below: Here is the grand staircase complete with a pipe organ (!?!?) and Tiffany stained glass.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8...alljjhagga.jpg
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Before its demolition J.J. Haggarty's "Castle" was used as a drug abuse rehabilitation facility.

Can you believe they actually placed recovering drug addicts here? To me the whole place seems like some sort of bizarre mind-f*ck.


______

ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2011 11:08 PM

Oops! I forgot to include this photo of one of the fireplaces in Haggarty's "Castle".

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9...tyfireplac.jpg
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At least it's more sedate than that musical staircase.


_______

ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2011 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5448686)


below: Here is a 1921 photo of Charlie's studio blanketed in snow Handsome_Stranger.

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6...onlabreain.jpg
http://localgod.tumblr.com/post/6499222804

Handsome Stranger Oct 20, 2011 3:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5450255)
Here is a 1921 photo of Charlie's studio blanketed in snow Handsome_Stranger.

Wow...I've seen a small handful of photos of snowy scenes in Los Angeles, but this one is new to me. Excellent find! And I really enjoy any photos of early Hollywood that impart a sense of what a sedate and sparsely populated little community it once was.

GaylordWilshire Oct 20, 2011 3:45 PM

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GaylordWilshire Oct 20, 2011 7:45 PM

Speaking of--um--baskets, or basketweave patterns, at least, here's an interesting building I've never noticed before:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072372.jpgLAPL
2600 S. Broadway at Adams


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

so-cal-bear Oct 20, 2011 8:39 PM

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Fab Fifties Fan Oct 20, 2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by so-cal-bear (Post 5451393)
So that's how that building looks like now! When I used to go to John Adams Jr. High I used to see that building every day as I walked from the bus at Adams and Broadway daily. The tower part was brownish granite and the sides were tan. I never did like the extreme aluminum window coverings. They have survived! The edifice looks terrible now due to the gaudy green color! Back in 85' the sign on top said Tropic┬ĚCal (raised period like the one shown)

Off topic, but I was walking to school one morning and the October 1987 Whittier Narrows earthquake hit. I swear, I saw some old wooden buildings sway 1 foot off at the roof line. It scared the crap out of me so what did I do? As a dummy I ran to the middle of the street and nearly getting hit by a car.

And holy moly! I always thought that the building was built in the mid 1950's I still did until today. I consulted http://navigatela.lacity.org/index01.cfm (the city's department of Engineering database) and this building was built in 1945! After the war, my guess. Thanks captain obvious! ;) But, yes. NavigateLA rocks, I use it all the time. I just thought to share this resource.

Thank you for sharing that resource so-cal-bear! A quick look has shown me what will probably become a new obsession!

I enjoyed your story about almost getting hit by a car while escaping swaying buildings, so something I would have done. I am never the one to follow during an emergency situation :D

Have to admit though that my favorite part of the Adams and Broadway bulding is the extreme aluminum window coverings and I am absolutely jonesing to know what happened to the matching entrance doors!!! Its my passion for midcentury ornamentation speaking.

~Jon Paul

MartinTurnbull Oct 21, 2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristinaR (Post 5404984)
I could be mistaken, but I always thought this was an image of the miniature model of the complex that used to be on display inside the bank where there Garden of Allah once stood. It is definitely the same photo that was used for the cover of Sheilah Graham's book.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ima...283155&s=books

Cheers!


Hi guys, it's Martin Turnbull here. I thought I'd weigh in on this. When I first found this photo (on Facebook, I think) I was excited that I'd found a "new" photo of the hotel where I've set my novels. I knew it was the one used on the cover of Sheilah Graham's book but I wasn't sure how the photographer got a shot like that. Then I found that a model existed of the place (have you seen the video of it?) and figured that it must have been the same shot. I tried to track down who took it, and when, but I never got anywhere.

Engineeral Oct 21, 2011 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5449878)
I can't make out that sigh either GW. Strangely enough, I see a sign middle left that says "I'm Victor Hugo". What's up with that?

Here's the pic. again.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9409/sisshown.jpg
usc digital archive

Also notice that a street cleaner had just shot a U in the lower left. (but did they have street cleaners back then?)
I also like how the derby would fix nicely on the dome. I have a pretty vivid imagination. :)

Horse-drawn mechanical street sweepers first came on the market in the 1840s. The first self-propelled street sweeper came out in 1914 - made by the Elgin company (still a common name in street sweepers http://www.elginsweeper.com/) it was delivered to Boise, Idaho (horse 'dust'?) and was successful.

(source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_sweeper)

cleats Oct 21, 2011 6:49 PM

Ravine Dream
 
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics32/00050946.jpg
Lake in Chavez Ravine:
This idea was proposed before the Los Angeles City Council on October 23, 1958, by Assemblyman Don Anderson, 45th District, who expressed the belief the state would lend assistance to the project, which he said would give people needed recreational facilities and help beautify the downtown section.

ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2011 8:26 PM

:previous: Very interesting...This is the first time I've heard about this idea/proposal.

GaylordWilshire Oct 21, 2011 9:01 PM

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068923.jpgLAPL


More pics of the "I'm Victor Hugo" restaurant in B.H.... just kidding e_r:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S...2520PM.bmp.jpg


latimemachines.com has this description: The Victor Hugo was at "233 N. Beverly Drive at Wilshire. Table d'hote Dinner in 1937 - $2. Owned by Hugo Aleidas. First location was 619 S. Grand Ave. Los Angeles, California"


Must also have once been on Hill:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...2520PM.bmp.jpg

ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2011 9:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5452649)

More pics of the "I'm Victor Hugo" restaurant in B.H.... just kidding e_r:

LOL I need to get glasses.


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