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FredH Mar 3, 2014 4:47 AM

The Days Before Seat Belts
 
O.K. So, according to this story, the guy laying on the freeway under the big arrow flew out of car 1, 2, or 5.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psa79bd0f7.jpg
L.A. Times

"Two accidents on Santa Ana Freeway
Posted By: Scott Harrison
Posted On: 12:48 a.m. | February 27, 2014
Jan. 13, 1962: Four men were injured in two accidents on the Santa Ana Freeway.

At 8:30 a.m. a stalled car was rear ended in the fast lane of the northbound Santa Ana Freeway – numbers 3 and 4 in above photo.

After the first accident, Los Angeles Times staff photographer Frank. Q. Brown arrived to take pictures and parked his car, foreground, on the southbound shoulder of the freeway.

Forty minutes after the first accident, five cars collided in the southbound lanes. They were, according to the Los Angeles Times, “slowed by curious drivers ahead of them.” These cars are numbers 1, 2 and 5 in photo above. The overturned car missed Brown’s car by an inch.

Arrow points to injured driver in the second accident, Jesse Kasner. Two cars involved in the second accident were able to drive away."


A couple of things...One, how do you fall out of you car on the freeway?...Two, how do you drive down the freeway on a dry, sunny day and have your car flip over on its top?

Trucker Mar 3, 2014 5:09 AM

"Two accidents on Santa Ana Freeway
Posted By: Scott Harrison
Posted On: 12:48 a.m. | February 27, 2014
Jan. 13, 1962: Four men were injured in two accidents on the Santa Ana Freeway.

At 8:30 a.m. a stalled car was rear ended in the fast lane of the northbound Santa Ana Freeway – numbers 3 and 4 in above photo.

After the first accident, Los Angeles Times staff photographer Frank. Q. Brown arrived to take pictures and parked his car, foreground, on the southbound shoulder of the freeway.

Forty minutes after the first accident, five cars collided in the southbound lanes. They were, according to the Los Angeles Times, “slowed by curious drivers ahead of them.” These cars are numbers 1, 2 and 5 in photo above. The overturned car missed Brown’s car by an inch.

Arrow points to injured driver in the second accident, Jesse Kasner. Two cars involved in the second accident were able to drive away."


A couple of things...One, how do you fall out of you car on the freeway?...Two, how do you drive down the freeway on a dry, sunny day and have your car flip over on its top?[/QUOTE]

I wonder if the car caught the wheels on a curb and flipped. Note that it was another Olds that almost hit Brown's Olds.
The No.1 car looks like it could be the same model as the movie car "Christine"
Cheers,Pat

Flyingwedge Mar 3, 2014 9:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 6472780)
During my youthful explorations of Los Angeles I would occasionally stumble across a piece of the City’s history that somehow managed to survive against all odds. Case in point this tiny Victorian on Court Street, at the foot of E. Edgeware Road. In 1901 a seemingly endless forest of wooden oil derricks stood menacingly behind it. Today it stands protected and almost obscured by a “forest” of trees planted over time.

This image from the Huntington Library collection appears on page 82 of the Book “Spudding In – Recollections of Pioneer days in the California Oil Fields” by William Rintoul.

Somewhere in my totally disorganized slide collection is an image of this little cottage taken in the mid 1960’s showing the trees seen in the B&W photo as fully mature and towering over the front yard. Alas, in the intervening years they have been replaced.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...pse0e5a2a6.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...ps39b468c9.jpg

Sorry for the multiple edits. I still seem to be image post challenged. . .


Cheers,
Jack

Good job finding 1274 W. Court, W-W! I hope you locate your missing slide.

Two other houses in that old photo are also survivors; the house to the left of 1274 W. Court, 1272 W. Court, and the house behind 1274 W. Court, 1305 W. Colton St.

Here's a closeup of the older photo, which USC dates c. 1901:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...4.jpg~original
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/11728/rec/40

1272 and 1274 W. Court; 1274 seems to have its original brick retaining wall:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original
GSV

1274 W. Court is behind the trees, between the two light blue houses, the right light blue house being 1272. The two houses in the lower left corner, 1309 (left) and 1305 (right) W. Colton,
have build dates of 1885 and 1890 per LA County Assessor, though 1305's roofline has changed since the c. 1901 photo. 1260 W. Court is at the right side of the photo, behind the trees:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...9.jpg~original
Bing

1894 Sanborn; Colton Street is at left . . . Toluca Street is at top . . . Court Street is at right. 1274 W. Court is on the fourth lot down from the top, with 1272 (b. 1890) and 1260 W. Court
(b. 1890) -- on either side of the big 12 at middle right. The dotted squares are oil wells/derricks:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...3.jpg~original
LAPL

1906 Sanborn; this time Toluca St. is on the left, with Bixel on the right. Some of the houses on the 1894 map are missing:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original
LAPL

1260 W. Court:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...4.jpg~original
GSV

GaylordWilshire Mar 3, 2014 1:48 PM

Insult to injury


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics48/00043933.jpgLAPL

The library's caption:

"Japanese-owned farm machinery in storage at a garage just off Washington Blvd. in Culver City is seen on April 23, 1943. The machinery is enough to farm 3000 acres. In the background is Frank M. Kramer, administrative assistant to the State Agricultural Commissioner. Kramer testified before the sub-committee of the U. S. Senate Committee on Military Affairs, demanding that something be done by the committee to release the machinery to Los Angeles County farmers who are crying for farm equipment. It was decided that during the first week in May Kramer, Harry Oakley, Los Angeles representative of the War Relocation Authority, and Boyd Stewart, member of the State Committee AAA in Berkeley, would go to Manzanar in an effort to buy these machines from their Japanese owners."

Well, at least the Manzanar internees might have been paid for their equipment. But do we suppose they were even given a choice?

Trucker Mar 3, 2014 2:57 PM

Wow, Great info on Court St WW and FW
I wonder if those derricks are now are completely gone or if there are underground pipes going to some pumping station?
Cheers,Pat

jballou Mar 3, 2014 5:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6475049)
Excellent overlay of the Stockyards and Central Manufacturing District/Produce Market HossC.




I came across this postcard a few weeks ago.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/547/ptca.jpgebay





I located it just this afternoon.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/856/yb7g.jpgGSV



This stretch of Oxford Avenue between Venice Blvd. and Washington Blvd. has some pretty impressive houses from the 1910s/1920s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/849/wh5f.jpgGSV




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/838/84c5.jpgGSV

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Try on the south side of Washington. I have a client that lives there. her house was built in 1903 and she said that Oxford houses were call Card houses named after poker games. I am trying to find more information on this and on her house.

Retired_in_Texas Mar 3, 2014 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trucker (Post 6476688)
Wow, Great info on Court St WW and FW
I wonder if those derricks are now are completely gone or if there are underground pipes going to some pumping station?
Cheers,Pat

I was wondering a bit of the same. Given the era, I'll suggest there are still pipes running all over the place to collector lines. Ran into a bunch of old pipes in South Central Kentucky in 1960 when we were drilling there that were left over from 1927. A more interesting aspect of those old L.A. area fields may be they probably only managed to pump less than 50% of the oil that could be pumped today given vast changes in technology and the fact those were all probably very shallow wells. About the only thing that would prevent more recovery would be if what is remaining has the viscosity of the La Brea Tar pits. Of course drilling that area is risky at best given the geological instability of the area. And then there is the risk of loosing investment from a shift. Typical well today runs $4-6 million to complete.

GaylordWilshire Mar 3, 2014 6:17 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...ardadcompl.jpgLAT March 22, 1903


jballou-- Trying to figure out what you might mean by "Card houses named after poker games"... please let us know what you find out. Above is an ad for the subdivision in which ER's Oxford Avenue houses stand....

jballou Mar 3, 2014 7:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6476979)
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...ardadcompl.jpgLAT March 22, 1903


jballou-- Trying to figure out what you might mean by "Card houses named after poker games"... please let us know what you find out. Above is an ad for the subdivision in which ER's Oxford Avenue houses stand....

She told me they were called Card Houses in Sugar Hill.

I will try to find out more information from her.

HossC Mar 3, 2014 9:49 PM

I don't remember seeing this 1928 picture of Nielsen's Super Service on NLA before. It stood at 3436 W First Street, on the corner of S Westmoreland.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...NielsenSS1.jpg
USC Digital Library

A closer view showing their special offers. I also like the "NOT BOOTLEG" sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...NielsenSS2.jpg
Detail of picture above.

In the background, there's a familiar roof sign. Given the location, at first I was thinking of the Bimini Baths ...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...NielsenSS3.jpg
Detail of picture above.

... until I remembered the Belmont Theatre on S Vermont.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5694770)

The photographer obviously wrote down the address incorrectly, because the envelope says 3634 W First Street (which is how USC have it labeled). This close-up of the area around the cash register has the correct address over the door. Imagine trying to keep those white shirts clean in a service station!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...NielsenSS4.jpg
USC Digital Library

Speaking of the Bimini Baths, while I was looking for pictures, I found this 1952 auction card on eBay. An article in the LA Times says it sold for $125,000, but sat empty until 1956 when it was torn down.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...uctionCard.jpg
Ebay

ethereal_reality Mar 3, 2014 10:23 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/850/0t3k.jpgebay

HossC, can you dig up one of your vintage aerials of this 4 acre place?






Here's another view.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/ngjp.jpgold file of mine
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FredH Mar 3, 2014 10:56 PM

Paramount Drive-in Theater to Reopen
 
Good news from the L.A. Times today. The Paramount Drive-in (originally the Roadium) is going to reopen this Spring,

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps5dab4a4a.jpg
L.A. Times

The story is here:

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-a...#axzz2uwSXIsc1

Graybeard Mar 3, 2014 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trucker (Post 6476436)
The trucks were so slow the bugs splatted on the back window.

I wonder if the Mullin Lumber Company sign would fly today...

(Whittington)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...35_image_2.jpg

Cheers,Pat

http://imageshack.com/a/img836/5063/p97o.jpg

HossC Mar 3, 2014 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6477324)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/850/0t3k.jpgebay

HossC, can you dig up one of your vintage aerials of this 4 acre place?

Here you go. This is from 1948.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...lageAerial.jpg
Historic Aerials

I also found this page from a book called 'Vanishing Los Angeles County' by Cory Stargel and Sarah Stargel.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...k.jpg~original
books.google.com

ethereal_reality Mar 3, 2014 11:21 PM

:previous: That's great HossC! I especially like the illustration.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/542/i54x.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19409


Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6438332)
Here's a picture of the Hollywood Bowl sign, complete with Gruen Time clock, dated as 1954.
FredH's picture shows the clock missing by 1964, so e_r's picture (above) must be from either 1950 or 1961 as they are the only years
around that time when October 21 fell on a Saturday. By the growth of the trees behind the statue, I'd lean toward 1950.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...odBowl1954.jpg
waterandpower.org



below: Here's a Gruen Time sign that's been hiding in plain site on Sunset Boulevard.

We've seen Bit O' Sweden before on NLA, but this is an especially good scan.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/513/gm82.jpgebay

I see that the Rotary Club met there.

ethereal_reality Mar 4, 2014 12:09 AM

I was hoping to come up with more details on this missing cache of dynamite.

1934
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/208/0wr5.jpgebay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/41/5wc6.jpg

HossC Mar 4, 2014 12:28 AM

The bottom of the article I posted about Mission Village mentions that a couple of the buildings were donated to the Santa Clarita Valley Historical Society. I'm very familiar with their website because a lot of the Dukes of Hazzard was filmed around that area. In fact, the Santa Clarita Valley Historical Society's HQ is the old Saugus station, which once played Hazzard station in the brief time between the station closing and it being moved to its current location. The Mogul steam engine which now sits outside the old station used to belong to Gene Autry. He acquired it in 1957 and used it in several TV shows before donating it to the SCVHS in 1981. But I digress ...

Here's the Mission Village Little Red Schoolhouse while it was at Callahan's Old West Trading Post in the '60s.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...choolhouse.jpg
www.scvhistory.com/Louis & Virginia Kay

This is the Ramona Chapel, also at the Old West Trading Post. Both were relocated to William S. Hart Park in the '80s. I tried to find them on Google Maps (and Bing Maps), but they're quite small and seem to be mainly hidden in the trees.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...monaChapel.jpg
www.scvhistory.com/Louis & Virginia Kay

The site also has this great picture of a Mission Village Good Luck Charm. "Be kind, be happy, be cheerful and think before you speak."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...llageCharm.jpg
www.scvhistory.com

GaylordWilshire Mar 4, 2014 1:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6477442)
I was hoping to come up with more details on this missing cache of dynamite.

1934
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/208/0wr5.jpgebay


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-T...acomplarti.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT Sept 6 , 1934


2414 South Vermont today...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o...2520PM.bmp.jpgGSV


You can't really tell from the vintage shot above, but--given the peaked roof evident in the aerial below--could the original building be buried in later construction?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V...2520PM.bmp.jpgGSV

ethereal_reality Mar 4, 2014 1:23 AM

The plot thickens...
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6477442)
I was hoping to come up with more details on this missing cache of dynamite.

I didn't realize I had this in a different file.

1934.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/541/caij.jpgebay


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/829/osok.jpg

If one case equal 240 sticks of dynamite...
the dynamite found at the Denver Moving & Storage Co. at 24th and Vermont equaled 1,680 sticks! *
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*I stand corrected.
350 cases were found at the storage company!!!! Let's see...that's...hmm..where's my calculator,
lets just say it's hellava a lot more than 7 cases.


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CityBoyDoug Mar 4, 2014 1:25 AM

Drive your own car to ''camp''....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6476641)
Insult to injury


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics48/00043933.jpgLAPL

The library's caption:

"Japanese-owned farm machinery in storage at a garage just off Washington Blvd. in Culver City is seen on April 23, 1943. The machinery is enough to farm 3000 acres. In the background is Frank M. Kramer, administrative assistant to the State Agricultural Commissioner. Kramer testified before the sub-committee of the U. S. Senate Committee on Military Affairs, demanding that something be done by the committee to release the machinery to Los Angeles County farmers who are crying for farm equipment. It was decided that during the first week in May Kramer, Harry Oakley, Los Angeles representative of the War Relocation Authority, and Boyd Stewart, member of the State Committee AAA in Berkeley, would go to Manzanar in an effort to buy these machines from their Japanese owners."

Well, at least the Manzanar internees might have been paid for their equipment. But do we suppose they were even given a choice?

Many Japanese drove their own cars to the Manzanar Relocation Center, California, United States, 2 Apr 1942. They generally followed the long lines of buses the hundreds of miles north to the camp. The camp compound is still there and some of the tar-paper covered buildings have been reconstructed. Many consider that it was unconstitutional to send US citizens to an internment camp in the WW 2 era.

The idea of being forced out of your home and business and shipped to a camp is noir, to say the least.


Manzanar Relocation Center, California, United States, 2 Apr 1942
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps6d8941c2.jpg
WW2 db library.


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