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GaylordWilshire Oct 30, 2013 6:05 PM

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/6827/aka6.jpgebay


We've seen the Owl Rexall at Beverly and La Cienega here many times, but, looking back, though the shot looks familiar, I can't find that we've ever seen this one of the interior before...


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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5890722)
An amazing kodachrome slide found on ebay. The cars are so beautiful!..and what is KYRON?

http://imageshack.us/a/img803/4926/a...ugstorelac.jpg



Vintage Noirish:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3063

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3097

oldstuff Oct 30, 2013 6:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6321077)
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/6827/aka6.jpgebay


We've seen the Owl Rexall at Beverly and La Cienega here many times, but, looking back, though the shot looks familiar, I can't find that we've ever seen this one of the interior before...






Vintage Noirish:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3063

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3097

According to some 1940's newspaper ads, Kyron was some kind of diet pill. It promised to let you lose "up to 7 lbs of UGLY FAT a week"

GaylordWilshire Oct 30, 2013 7:01 PM

:previous:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...623%2520PM.jpg


From the LATimes July 19, 1950


Note the Beverly-Carlton ad on the same page at top--aka the Beverly Palms and the Avalon...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3131

ethereal_reality Oct 30, 2013 7:14 PM

W.A.E. Airport, Alhambra
http://imageshack.us/a/img13/8681/1ur9.jpgebay



http://imageshack.us/a/img4/9563/2frk.jpgebay
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That's a great interior photograph of the Owl Rexall GW. -good find!

MartinTurnbull Oct 30, 2013 7:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6320170)
sopas ej posted some great black and white shots back in 2010 - are these the ones you're looking for?:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1324

BINGO! It was driving me nuts that I couldn't find them again. Thanks much!

ethereal_reality Oct 30, 2013 7:43 PM

-snapshots from a 1930s photo album.
http://imageshack.us/a/img33/6599/cmhu.jpg
ebay


-looks like the view of Melrose might have been from atop a building on the Paramount lot.
http://imageshack.us/a/img545/8981/n38g.jpg
ebay



-I'm most curious about the 'mushroom' building at lower right.
http://imageshack.us/a/img600/2479/yat7.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Oct 30, 2013 7:49 PM

a sandwich shop/Los Angeles vicinity
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/7762/6io1.jpg

notice the stairs leading up to the roof. -is this a traveler's lookout? to attract customers.

http://imageshack.us/a/img21/681/ufpr.jpgebay

I like this little place for some reason.
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ethereal_reality Oct 30, 2013 8:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6320101)

The new Bonaventure Hotel peering over the shoulder of the California Club in the late 1970s.
http://imageshack.us/a/img62/2678/kyfj.jpgoldcd
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Chuckaluck Oct 30, 2013 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6321196)
W.A.E. Airport, Alhambra


http://imageshack.us/a/img4/9563/2frk.jpgebay
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That's a great interior photograph of the Owl Rexall GW. -good find!






Oooh, another 4-engined Fokker F-32! (**Bob's Airmail Service.) http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9253



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Western Air Express initially operated the F.32s out of Alhambra Airport starting in 1930, but moved to Glendale in 1932, so that gives an indication of when this photo might have been taken.
Glendale's Grand Central Terminal
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9oE7i3bj_P...32-01cr-12.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9oE7i3bj_P...32-01cr-12.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/195/49...e1e_z.jpg?zz=1http://farm1.staticflickr.com/195/49...e1e_z.jpg?zz=1


Not to be confused with Art Linkletter's "House Party!"
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4020/4...de8d5303_z.jpghttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4020/4...de8d5303_z.jpg


Perhaps not the most aerodynamic exterior, but cutting edge "swank" when it came to interior design!
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4054/4...d0f6e19a_z.jpghttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4054/4...d0f6e19a_z.jpg


http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4040/4...5983ec61_z.jpghttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4040/4...5983ec61_z.jpg

Advanced cockpit instrumentation
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4063/4...d3294121_z.jpghttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4063/4...d3294121_z.jpg
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4058/4...2ff37226_z.jpghttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4058/4...2ff37226_z.jpg


Unknown location, unknown identities. Flaps up or down? Airbrakes!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...okker-F32b.jpghttp://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...okker-F32b.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img23/5346/aa...station193.jpghttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9253

Martin Pal Oct 30, 2013 10:00 PM

I was telling someone about the "annex" or addition to the Chinese Theatre that was first built around 1979-80 on the east side of the original where a parking lot was located. (Chinese Theatre 2 & 3.) But I couldn't locate any photos on the net of when it looked like that, so far, and unless my search skills are faulty I didn't see any photos on this thread of it, either.

Nor of this one around the time the theatre first opened:
http://thegreatgeekmanual.com/images...se-theatre.jpg
From Geek Manual

GaylordWilshire Oct 30, 2013 10:37 PM

:previous:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H...249%2520PM.jpg


Lots of construction photos come up right away on googling Grauman's...

here's a bunch: http://www.hollywoodphotographs.com/...ter/?pg=3&r=24

Martin Pal Oct 30, 2013 10:38 PM

A response...fwiw.
 
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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6321016)
I won't say inappropriate, but to be honest I'm not sure what the big deal is about the ancient untitilating tales of old queens possibly or possibly not having actually crossed paths with Montgomery Clift or Sandy Koufax.

I ask then, what is "the big deal about the ancient untitilating tales" told by posters in this thread about them or their family members crossing paths with celebrities in the Hollywood Brown Derby, for instance (I recently read that one), or about others who've rubbed elbows with L.A. personalities and politicians? Or those who worked with Frank Sinatra or encountered Michael Jackson? I've read several such accounts, some first person and some related, here on these pages and I'm not even up to page 300 yet.

I never said it was a "big deal" anyway. I used the story as personal observation to particular Los Angeles locations as others have done. In this case, the Coffee Dan's restaurants in Hollywood, the Bank of America and the vicinity of Hollywood & Highland. Should I take offense that you say "possibly or possibly not"? I haven't yet encountered a post where someone has taken the veracity to task of someone else's related stories about something. Is "old queens" supposed to be taken as derogatory? I, myself, have enough life experience to know when the veracity of something is legitimate or not. If I wasn't confident about it myself, I wouldn't have told it. If I wasn't sure and posted it anyway, I would've said "I'm not sure this is true." And I doubt "young queens" would have been able to afford a story like this, no? Really, I only posted it to give life to the surroundings the photos portray.

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6321016)
Clift's sexuality isn't exactly a newsflash--I guess I'm not surprised, but how sad that someone would think that passing up a chance to have sex with a movie star was a big mistake in life.

Again, I didn't mention it as a "newsflash" - simply a fact. As for the rest, that's your interpretation. I said date. I don't know if I'd use the word sad, but I do think it would've been interesting to have gone out on a date with M. Clift.

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6321016)
I don't know how long the rumors might have been around, but I think there was a not-so-big brouhaha 10 or 15 years ago about Koufax's alleged interest men.

All of the information I have learned about this was garnered before the publication of his autobiography in 2003 when that occurred. It provided another checkmark to things, though.

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6321016)
I guess my point is... beware of star-struck old men flapping their gums at parties.... So glad we've gotten away from all that & wish Clift if not Koufax could have lived in a time of less fear about being authentic.

I don't need a warning as to how to evaluate people and the information they impart. Maybe you've been burned before, but I can't think of an instance I myself have been burned on information I've relayed when I finally decide it's accuracy or not, and sometimes that might take years. But, if you think we've gotten away from all that you haven't been paying attention.

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6321016)
"A Hollywood coffee shop that catered exclusively to homosexuals..."

Exclusively? Was there a bouncer with gaydar?

As I noted, the site I linked only posts sources with information about particular locations, in this case Coffee Dan's. The validity of the information in the source is not attested to on that site.

Anyway, here's some further connections to Coffee Dan's, Bank of America at Hollywood and Highland, the Dodgers, Montgomery Clift and such…believe them or not as you wish:

From Loose Nights by John Gilmore:
http://www.johngilmore.com/Scrapbook/loosenights.html

One afternoon that spring, 1 found myself talking with Montgomery Clift in East Hampton. Clift, I supposed, had been drinking since the previous day or earlier, but I reminded him that I'd met him in Coffee Dan's on Hollywood Boulevard years before. It'd been the middle of the night and he'd been sitting there with Burt Lancaster and James Jones, who was decked out in Indian jewelry, and all three were pretty pie-eyed. Clift was nipping from a flask and acting out the scene from From Here to Eternity in which he plays the reenlistment blues on a bugle.

From Bruce Kimmel's blog, part of a reminiscence about walking around Hollywood Blvd. when he was 13.
http://www.haineshisway.com/2012/10/HOLLYWOOD/

When I'd get to Vine, I'd cross over to the south side of the boulevard and walk back to Highland. That had many wonders, too, including the Iris Theater, Larry Edmunds bookshop, Bert Wheeler's House of Magic, the New View Theater, the Las Palmas newsstand, the Las Palmas Theater, Coffee Dan's (one of the greatest coffee shops in the history of LA - and the first place I ever had what has become completely trendy again - an iceberg lettuce wedge in Roquefort dressing - along with their amazing "Dodger" burger), the Egyptian, and several big drugstores.

Martin Pal Oct 30, 2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6321437)
:previous:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H...249%2520PM.jpg


Lots of construction photos come up right away on googling Grauman's...

here's a bunch: http://www.hollywoodphotographs.com/...ter/?pg=3&r=24

Thanks, wow...do I need a new search engine! :)

HossC Oct 30, 2013 11:12 PM

Martin, here's a color picture of how the annex looked when it was finished. The main screen is showing the Clint Eastwood movie 'Tightrope', so that dates it to around August 1984. The annex is still showing 'Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom' which came out in May 1984. The orange car driving by should give you (or should that be y'all) a clue as to where I got the screengrab.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...inese2and3.jpg
Warner Bros.

Earl Boebert Oct 30, 2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6321266)
a sandwich shop/Los Angeles vicinity
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/7762/6io1.jpg

notice the stairs leading up to the roof. -is this a traveler's lookout? to attract customers.

http://imageshack.us/a/img21/681/ufpr.jpgebay

I like this little place for some reason.
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Looks more to me like it's serving double duty as a small bleachers or grandstand.

Cheers,

Earl

CityBoyDoug Oct 31, 2013 12:45 AM

Hooray for Hollywood......
 
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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6320461)
I've noticed that posters have at times often related a story of their own or others that go along with the photographs. I'll delete this if inappropriate, but here's:

Why I've been interested in COFFEE DAN'S

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225...5QkDGi1jmw.jpgEbay

I had been interested in what "Coffee Dan's" was ever since I met an aging man at a Halloween dinner party about a decade ago. I don't know the whole story, but a gay couple in their thirties or early forties had become friends with him. I guess he was in his 70's.


Hey Martin, what a totally neat anecdote about the party. Its always fun to hear stories from the past. These are truly treasured memories. I have my own.

I've lived in LA most of my life and lived in Hollywood for five years. I have too many stories of crossing paths with ''movie stars'' to recount here.

If you have some more stories Martin, please feel welcome to post here with the accompanying photos for illustrative purposes.

I'll end with this. Did I personally know any Hollywood luminaries? Oh yes.

ethereal_reality Oct 31, 2013 1:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6320067)

Four years later, a 1938 cloudburst.
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/77/7zdm.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img577/6964/cg6j.jpgebay

Is this in fact four years later? -or is one of the photograph mislabeled? I haven't been able to figure it out yet.

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HenryHuntington Oct 31, 2013 3:27 AM

Is this in fact four years later? -or is one of the photograph mislabeled? I haven't been able to figure it out yet.

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Without researching the exact dates, I know that there was heavy flooding in the greater L.A. area during the winters of both 1934 and 1938. So I doubt that the photo credit was misprinted.

Retired_in_Texas Oct 31, 2013 4:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6321618)
Four years later, a 1938 cloudburst.
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/77/7zdm.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img577/6964/cg6j.jpgebay

Is this in fact four years later? -or is one of the photograph mislabeled? I haven't been able to figure it out yet.

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I don't think the photo is mislabeled. The second car appears to be a 1937 or 1938 Pontiac.

Lorendoc Oct 31, 2013 4:31 AM

floods are not the only threat to cars
 
Speaking of natural disasters, the following greeted me tonight on my commute home up to Lookout Mountain. This is Sunset Plaza Drive just above Sunset Boulevard. Cell phone camera is not helpful, but you get the general idea:

http://imageshack.com/a/img853/3876/8kqa.jpg


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