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HossC Jan 24, 2017 8:28 PM

Here's today's Julius Shulman post. It's "Job 3259: Hugh Gibbs, Armed Services Young Men's Christian Association (Long Beach, Calif.), 1961".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

A closer view of the entrance.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The other end of the building looked like this.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

I left out an image looking across this area from the entrance on the right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

This shot shows three pool tables. I'm not sure what else occupied their time.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The 1962 Long Beach CD mentions the "Navy Landing and Armed Services-Y.M.C.A.--Located at the foot of Magnolia Street." and describes "The Armed Services Y.M.C.A., a recently completed $1,000,000-project, [which] provides recreation facilities for members of the armed Forces.". It lists the address as 520 W Seaside Boulevard. By 1969, the address changes to 101 S Magnolia Avenue. That address and (what I think is) the building above both appear on this 1960s matchbook.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
eBay

Despite having two addresses, I can't see the building on Historic Aerials, and it doesn't seem to have survived (please prove me wrong). Maybe there's a recognizable building in this enlarged detail from the first image. A couple of rooftop signs are partially visible. Does anyone have memories of this establishment?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...a.jpg~original

GaylordWilshire Jan 24, 2017 9:03 PM

I've finally sorted out that all-important matter of who was the real William Garland, legendary real estate man. As is well known, William May Garland was famous for his predictions of future Los Angeles population statistics and his red-and-white "semaphore" advertising; what could be confusing at times were reference to the contemporaneous, unrelated William "n.m.n." Garland, who after his railroad career in Arizona got into real estate himself and built several downtown office buildings, one prominent one bearing the Garland name. Anyway, both William Garlands built big houses for themselves, Wm May's on Adams Boulevard and seen here and here before. Plain William built an especially lovely house on Westlake Avenue in 1898, a new picture of which I've recently acquired and adapted to my catalogs of LA houses.

The full story is here.

http://bit.ly/2j28JUL

ethereal_reality Jan 24, 2017 9:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7688487)
My mother worked at the Community Chest office in the 1940's. I remember we had a red plastic feather that was a "phone dialer" in the days of rotary phones and it said Community Chest on the back. I think I may still have it somewhere. (I save a lot of junk)

oldstuff, I like people that save a lot of junk.

Your post reminded me to look further in my files for the photograph below.

It shows a Community Chest Office in Los Angeles at a Santa Rita Clinic.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/526CbC.jpg
old file / originally from ebay



I wasn't sure where this was located until I noticed it says Bellevue Avenue on the post sign.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/MHXYEp.jpgdetail



Well...2321 Bellevue (the street number is more clear above the door) places the Santa Rita Clinic in the old Queen of Angels Hospital.

______



St. Rita is wondering what she's suppose to do with the feather.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/S9bwNN.jpg
;)

CityBoyDoug Jan 24, 2017 9:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7688713)
Here's today's Julius Shulman post. It's "Job 3259: Hugh Gibbs, Armed Services Young Men's Christian Association (Long Beach, Calif.), 1961".
This shot shows three pool tables. I'm not sure what else occupied their time.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The 1962 Long Beach CD mentions the "Navy Landing and Armed Services-Y.M.C.A.--Located at the foot of Magnolia Street." and describes "The Armed Services Y.M.C.A., a recently completed $1,000,000-project, [which] provides recreation facilities for members of the armed Forces.". It lists the address as 520 W Seaside Boulevard. By 1969, the address changes to 101 S Magnolia Avenue. That address and (what I think is) the building above both appear on this 1960s matchbook.

Here we see the building in a 1972 aerial.

Yes, I remember being inside this YMCA maybe twice when I was stationed at Naval Base Long Beach in 1968.
It was kind of a strange place, basically there was not much there. Few sailors visited the location as I recall. It did have an open bunk-room where you could sleep overnight for two or three dollars. [No private rooms.]
There may have been some sort of food service. The building was probably a PR gesture by the city that showed that Long Beach welcomed the Navy.

Most guys headed to the locker clubs and bars of Long Beach in those days.

Yes, it is long gone, as are the Naval Station and Navy Shipyard.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psheyrlazi.jpg
Netr

CityBoyDoug Jan 24, 2017 9:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7688713)
Here's today's Julius Shulman post. It's "Job 3259: Hugh Gibbs, Armed Services Young Men's Christian Association (Long Beach, Calif.), 1961".



http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...a.jpg~original

The apartments we see in the background were a part of the blocks south of Ocean Blvd. that were known as "The Jungle". They had been there since the 1920s. They were a collection seedy apartments, small cabins and businesses that catered to the bohemians of that era. It was not a place for families and kids.
All of the ''Jungle" blocks were razed and redeveloped in the 1960s. They were gone by the time I arrived in Long Beach in 1968.

ethereal_reality Jan 24, 2017 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 7688403)
Hancock Fire probably refers to Hancock Oil and their refinery. They were a well know brand at the time and were purchased by Signal Oil in the 50's.
Hancock Park is named after Hancock Family.

Thanks for the info Hollywood Graham.

Here's an aerial view of the 1958 Hancock Fire.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/v5RZz4.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/se...cock%20Fire%22




And some closer views.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/7VIsnJ.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/se...cock%20Fire%22





Burnt cars

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/QsgRZv.jpg




Run!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/bCrz6O.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/se...cock%20Fire%22



In the cab.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/6M5NjS.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/se...cock%20Fire%22

That pistol thingy (that looks like a glue gun)....a guidance control? -for sprayer on top of the truck perhaps.



I believe that's the Hancock Oil Administrive building at lower left.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/yPD2L0.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/88516/rec/18



Close-up of the Hancock gate (that was partially seen in the first photo)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/ABxi1d.jpg
detail

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CityBoyDoug Jan 25, 2017 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7689016)
Thanks for the info Hollywood Graham.

Here's an aerial view of the 1958 Hancock Fire.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/v5RZz4.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/se...cock%20Fire%22





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That's quite a massive conflagration.

Here is the larger view of the firemen in the cab of the fire truck.
Maybe someone can tell us what those controls do.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psc653dmoe.jpg
usc.edu

odinthor Jan 25, 2017 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7688651)
Is this the image t2?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/9Azpxu.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021153/...r/rm1750401536

I've never seen this film, but that hair-pulling scene was pretty remarkable.

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I have it on DVD, and have watched it three or four times. I'd give it a grade of B or B+. What I remember most about it is that Jack Buchanan, while he's thoroughly good and attractive and professional, has an acting style which makes me think we're doing a stage production in London's West End. He walks like he's on stage, his facial expressions, his gestures, just his everything are stage mannerisms rather than movie mannerisms. Not at all bad, but a little jarring. The final song, "Beyond the Blue Horizon," sticks in the mind. Here, let me sing it for you: [sings it] How'd you like it? An encore? Why, you're too kind! [sings it again].

ethereal_reality Jan 25, 2017 1:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 7688108)

How about some cheesecake pics of Jane?

:previous: Your wish is my command CaliNative.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/Uazt8w.jpg
https://mikestakeonthemovies.com/201...his-mate-1934/


The pre-code Tarzan films (Tarzan the Ape Man-1932, Tarzan and His Mate-1934 have Jane wearing a leather string
supporting two narrow animal skins covering her front and back, but leaving her hips completely bare.

The skimpy outfit was later modified for something more family friendly......(see below)


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/FXy6Jc.jpg
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/...=34744&forum=1



I really like this one. Jane takes a break.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/QbQBuE.jpg
http://www.dfiles.me/tarzan-and-his-mate.html



In Tarzan and His Mate Jane even has a 'nude' swimming scene.

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/1642/w2xzzF.gif



As Tarzan throws Jane into the water her clothes are ripped off by a branch...
(the sound effect when this happens is pretty bad...it sound like a creaky barn door opening)


Watch it here:
Video Link



Interesting comment on youtube.

"The underwater double for Maureen O'Sullivan was Olympic swimmer Josephine McKim
although O'Sullivan had no problem showing her body too as she wore nothing under her loin cloth
and there were several times in the movie where you can see her vajayjay. It wouldn't be a big deal
at all now but it was in 1934."


"vajayjay" lol :)

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ethereal_reality Jan 25, 2017 2:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7689091)
I have it on DVD, and have watched it three or four times. I'd give it a grade of B or B+. What I remember most about it is that Jack Buchanan, while he's thoroughly good and attractive and professional, has an acting style which makes me think we're doing a stage production in London's West End. He walks like he's on stage, his facial expressions, his gestures, just his everything are stage mannerisms rather than movie mannerisms. Not at all bad, but a little jarring. The final song, "Beyond the Blue Horizon," sticks in the mind. Here, let me sing it for you: [sings it] How'd you like it? An encore? Why, you're too kind! [sings it again].

Is this what you meant by odd facial expressions? They're like blind gamblers.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/lgqG0j.jpg
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/ne...re-id507224977

Oh, and your song was wonderful odinthor. ;)


Here's Jeanette's version in all it's scratchy glory.

Video Link


Pretty amazing for one of the first sound productions.

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CaliNative Jan 25, 2017 3:08 AM

Wow, Jane butt naked in 1932! That's what launched the production codes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7689149)
:previous: Your wish is my command CaliNative.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/Uazt8w.jpg
https://mikestakeonthemovies.com/201...his-mate-1934/


The pre-code Tarzan films (Tarzan the Ape Man-1932, Tarzan and His Mate-1934 have Jane wearing a leather string
supporting two narrow animal skins covering her front and back, but leaving her hips completely bare.

The skimpy outfit was later modified for something more family friendly......(see below)


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/FXy6Jc.jpg
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/...=34744&forum=1



I really like this one. Jane takes a break.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/QbQBuE.jpg
http://www.dfiles.me/tarzan-and-his-mate.html



In Tarzan and His Mate Jane even has a 'nude' swimming scene.

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/1642/w2xzzF.gif



As Tarzan throws Jane into the water her clothes are ripped off by a branch...
(the sound effect when this happens is pretty bad...it sound like a creaky barn door opening)


Watch it here:
Video Link



Interesting comment on youtube.

"The underwater double for Maureen O'Sullivan was Olympic swimmer Josephine McKim
although O'Sullivan had no problem showing her body too as she wore nothing under her loin cloth
and there were several times in the movie where you can see her vajayjay. It wouldn't be a big deal
at all now but it was in 1934."


"vajayjay" lol :)

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Man, great skinny dip with Jane (or her double), temporary relief from the Depression gloom outside the theater . But Louis B. Mayer & the other studio moguls were outraged, and then came the production codes. No more nudity until the late '60s.

John Maddox Roberts Jan 25, 2017 3:22 AM

It wasn't just the Codes. One director wrote that Maureen was a good Catholic girl and in consequence was usually pregnant when filming the later Tarzan movies, requiring creative camera work and extensive use of body doubles.

ethereal_reality Jan 25, 2017 3:38 AM

Remember our discussion about the 'radiator water bags' a few weeks ago?

Well, I just found one on a postcard!

"c1960s Desert Center Cafe, Greyhound Bus Depot, Standard Gas California"


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/SyywQd.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/c1960s-Deser...8AAOSw2xRYcnXV

note the bag is hanging on the side-mirror and not in front of the radiator. (I believe t2 said her family hung it like this...on the side mirror)


a closer-look
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/ixKY6U.jpg
detail
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update:

Desert Center is off of Highway 10, southeast of Joshua Tree National Park.

I believe the buildings in the vintage postcard might still be there, but the google-mobile refuses to go down Ragsdale Road :(

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/84fQZQ.jpg
google_earth



Here's a better look at the buildings / viewed from the north

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/97Pur3.jpg
detail

What do you NLAers think...could these be the same buildings?

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CityBoyDoug Jan 25, 2017 5:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7689315)
Remember our discussion about the 'radiator water bags' a few weeks ago?


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/97Pur3.jpg
detail

What do you NLAers think...could these be the same buildings?

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Yes, same buildings.
Amazing ER to see you out in the middle of nowhere. Ragsdale was the founder of the old stage-stop in 1921.


1946...Desert Center - now abandoned but still standing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psfi8mu1dz.jpg
paperzillo

The town was founded in 1921 by Stephen A. Ragsdale, also known as “Desert Steve”, and his wife, Lydia. Ragsdale was an itinerant preacher and cotton farmer, originally from Arkansas. In 1915, he left his farm in the Palo Verde Valley along the Colorado River to attend to some business in Los Angeles. The road between Phoenix and Los Angeles was mostly sand, and Ragsdale's vehicle broke down near a place called Gruendyke's Well. This featured a hand-dug well and was inhabited by a prospector named Bill Gruendyke. Gruendyke rescued Ragsdale and gave him food, shelter, and water until his vehicle was repaired and he could resume his journey to Los Angeles.

Upon his return, Ragsdale bought out Gruendyke and moved his family to the remote spot, where they constructed a small shack with a lean-to that served as the repair garage. A Model T truck was modified to serve as a tow car. Gasoline was pumped by hand from a 55 gallon drum. Lydia served food and refreshments to thirsty and weary travelers. In spite of the remote location 50 miles (80 km) in any direction from anything, the Ragsdales prospered. Ragsdale named his outpost 'Desert Center'.

Mstimc Jan 25, 2017 5:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7688825)
Here we see the building in a 1972 aerial.


Most guys headed to the locker clubs and bars of Long Beach in those days.

Yes, it is long gone, as are the Naval Station and Navy Shipyard.


Netr

My dad met my mother when he was stationed in Long Beach. He moved from Missouri to California at the behest of the Japanese Imperial Navy. They were married Valentine's Day 1942 at the old St. Joe's downtown. He shipped out a few weeks later for the duration.

CityBoyDoug Jan 25, 2017 5:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 7689419)
My dad met my mother when he was stationed in Long Beach. He moved from Missouri to California at the behest of the Japanese Imperial Navy. They were married Valentine's Day 1942 at the old St. Joe's downtown. He shipped out a few weeks later for the duration.

Wonderful memories....wartime romance.! Are there any photos from that time?

CaliNative Jan 25, 2017 6:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 7689301)
It wasn't just the Codes. One director wrote that Maureen was a good Catholic girl and in consequence was usually pregnant when filming the later Tarzan movies, requiring creative camera work and extensive use of body doubles.

Pregnant with Mia Farrow maybe, future ex-wife of Frank Sinatra & Woody Allen?

John Maddox Roberts Jan 25, 2017 7:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 7689462)
Pregnant with Mia Farrow maybe, future ex-wife of Frank Sinatra & Woody Allen?

Mia and Woody never married and thus were never exes. Hollywood matrimony was never very conventional.

Blaster Jan 25, 2017 3:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 7689462)
Pregnant with Mia Farrow maybe, future ex-wife of Frank Sinatra & Woody Allen?

Mia Farrow wasn't born until 1945, several years after Maureen had retired her Jane costume.

JimCraig Jan 25, 2017 5:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7688809)
oldstuff, I like people that save a lot of junk.

Your post reminded me to look further in my files for the photograph below.

It shows a Community Chest Office in Los Angeles at a Santa Rita Clinic.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/526CbC.jpg
old file / originally from ebay



I wasn't sure where this was located until I noticed it says Bellevue Avenue on the post sign.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/MHXYEp.jpgdetail



Well...2321 Bellevue (the street number is more clear above the door) places the Santa Rita Clinic in the old Queen of Angels Hospital.

______



St. Rita is wondering what she's suppose to do with the feather.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/S9bwNN.jpg
;)


It's not a feather. St. Rita is looking at a crucifix. We are looking at it from a side view.


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