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WildCowboy Jun 5, 2012 6:17 PM

I would imagine Bayfront Park is probably tied to development of the Salesforce lots, so who knows when that'll come through.

timbad Jun 5, 2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut gallery (Post 5723610)
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Brady73 - though you've been a member for over a year, welcome to the (posting part of the) community. Hope you'll continue to participate! You raise a good question about the bayfront park. I'm sure timbad will be all over it if something gets started there.

I second the welcome!

as far as the parks, I don't know any more than I did when I posted this in December, unfortunately. but pg is right, that of course I will report any movement I see as soon as I see it :yes:

Brady73 Jun 7, 2012 11:34 PM

Yes, longtime silent reader, so glad to finally be posting. As far as Bayfront park, I'm not sure if it's tied to Salesforce's parcels or not. There was a bond issuance several years back that covered among other things the building of Bayfront park. They were scheduled to do the shoreline work first which is finished, followed by the reconstruction of Terry Francois Blvd and the building of the park. The original schedule had them starting on the park in May, which obviously didn't happen, so something is delaying it, but hopefully they start within the next several months.

They are currently discussing another bond issuance proposal that would raise additional funds for park improvement projects around the city, with one of them being the renovation of Agua Vista park. So that little corner of MB will be looking great in a few years.

timbad Jun 11, 2012 1:25 AM

a few shots from around the 'hood...

here is the Third St side of Madrone:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7229/7...e4d123b3_b.jpg

and looking down China Basin Wy:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7074/7...5d62990e_b.jpg

across China Basin Wy at the safety building site, looking north:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7076/7...cc9aaaaa_b.jpg

and south:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7217/7...16434115_b.jpg

over on the block that Potrero Launch occupies most of, they recently tore down an additional building on the south/20th St side:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7087/7...01ddbb62_b.jpg

a closer look, which gives a glimpse of how Potrero Launch builds on and incorporates one of the existing brick buildings:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7213/7...7902929b_b.jpg

northbay Jun 11, 2012 5:36 AM

Madrone looks very nice. I like Potrero Launch's adaptive reuse.

Looks like things are finally starting to come together.

ElDuderino Jun 11, 2012 10:38 PM

Wow. Madrone looks SO much better with the white paint :cheers:

easy as pie Jun 12, 2012 12:07 AM

wait, is that ground floor commercial space fronting 3rd?? didn't realize that madrone had that... wow

peanut gallery Jun 13, 2012 6:31 PM

^I didn't either and it's not indicated on this map of the MB plan. We'll have to keep an eye on that. Perhaps it just looks like retail right now?

1977 Jun 13, 2012 9:49 PM

A new (angle) rendering of the waterfront park at Mission Rock:

http://sf.curbed.com/uploads/2012_06...ssionrock2.jpg
Source: http://sf.curbed.com

And an aerial view of the proposed development and how it fits into Lot A:

http://www.livesoma.com/wp-content/u...ock-Aerial.png
Source: www.livesoma.com

peanut gallery Jun 13, 2012 10:58 PM

Cool stuff!

Unimportant side note: They used an old photo for the skyline in the background: no ORH, Millennium or Infinity.

KVNBKLYN Jun 14, 2012 1:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 1977 (Post 5733299)
A new (angle) rendering of the waterfront park at Mission Rock:

And an aerial view of the proposed development and how it fits into Lot A:

There's also a new (or at least new to me) version of the Mission Rock proposal in pdf format here: http://www.sf-port.org/ftp/uploadedf...osalDesign.pdf

Lots of renderings and info on the proposal.

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^I didn't either and it's not indicated on this map of the MB plan. We'll have to keep an eye on that. Perhaps it just looks like retail right now?
It never made sense to me that the original master plan didn't call for retail along Third Street instead of Fourth. It makes more sense to locate neighborhood-serving retail along the main street where the public transportation is. And I guess I'm not alone, since it seems individual developers are putting retail along Third. See page 14 of the Mission Rock proposal for what seems to be a more up-to-date use plan that takes actual retail locations into account, including at the base of the Madrone.

1977 Jun 14, 2012 2:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KVNBKLYN (Post 5733541)
There's also a new (or at least new to me) version of the Mission Rock proposal in pdf format here: http://www.sf-port.org/ftp/uploadedf...osalDesign.pdf

Lots of renderings and info on the proposal.



It never made sense to me that the original master plan didn't call for retail along Third Street instead of Fourth. It makes more sense to locate neighborhood-serving retail along the main street where the public transportation is. And I guess I'm not alone, since it seems individual developers are putting retail along Third. See page 14 of the Mission Rock proposal for what seems to be a more up-to-date use plan that takes actual retail locations into account, including at the base of the Madrone.

Thanks for the .pdf! Love the "skyline concept diagram" with Mission Rock, Rincon Hill, Transbay, etc.

tech12 Jun 14, 2012 3:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KVNBKLYN (Post 5733541)
There's also a new (or at least new to me) version of the Mission Rock proposal in pdf format here: http://www.sf-port.org/ftp/uploadedf...osalDesign.pdf

Lots of renderings and info on the proposal.

Thanks for the link, I've never seen this before, and I don't think it's been posted in this thread yet either.

Here are the skyline renderings:

Plan A, tallest tower 320':
http://i.imgur.com/LfqRa.jpg

Plan B, tallest tower 380':
http://i.imgur.com/BYQEQ.jpg

Plan C, tallest tower 450':
http://i.imgur.com/g8mUI.jpg

This one looks like it's also plan C:
http://i.imgur.com/btOLX.jpg

rriojas71 Jun 14, 2012 8:46 PM

Wow!! This is the first I have heard about the Mission Rock project and although I am not a big fan of a lot of the construction in Mission Bay (Madrone being one of the exceptions) this project looks like it would be awesome if it comes to fruition. I think tying in to McCovey Cove and AT&T park with an open space and water front access was a smart move by the developers.

rocketman_95046 Jun 15, 2012 5:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rriojas71 (Post 5734431)
Wow!! This is the first I have heard about the Mission Rock project and although I am not a big fan of a lot of the construction in Mission Bay (Madrone being one of the exceptions) this project looks like it would be awesome if it comes to fruition. I think tying in to McCovey Cove and AT&T park with an open space and water front access was a smart move by the developers.

Well the developers are the Giants, so yea they are going to incorporate McCovey Cove;)

rriojas71 Jun 15, 2012 9:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketman_95046 (Post 5735493)
Well the developers are the Giants, so yea they are going to incorporate McCovey Cove;)

Kudos to them!! :)

timbad Jun 15, 2012 9:25 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut gallery (Post 5732999)
^I didn't either and it's not indicated on this map of the MB plan. We'll have to keep an eye on that. Perhaps it just looks like retail right now?

I've been meaning to get some shots of how Madrone meets the sidewalk, but have been waiting for the scaffolding to get out of the way for a clearer look. I'll post as soon as I can

NOPA Jun 18, 2012 10:27 PM

Wow Mission Rock has some serious density! That makes me happy and is very appropriate for the area!

mt_climber13 Jun 19, 2012 1:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tech12 (Post 5733596)

This one looks like it's also plan C:
http://i.imgur.com/btOLX.jpg

I am curious as to why almost all renderings I have seen of Transbay Tower are purple.

Brady73 Jun 19, 2012 5:06 PM

Development Updates
 
Noticed some surveying work being done today at the Block 13 corner site, so they should hopefully be starting construction on that within the next few weeks.

Looks like Block 5 should commence sometime in August if still on schedule.

And Block 7 should commence construction in Feb. '13 based on the developer's goals.

Unfortunately, from some additional digging, it does appear the largest part of Bayfront park, P22, "is" tied to the Salesforce land being developed, so it will be some time before that is finally built. However, it does look like P23 and P24 should get started ahead of P22, some time within the next year.


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