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Vicelord John Feb 28, 2010 2:25 AM

Now i know why quiznos closed... Urgent cars. A sign its becoming its own neighborhood.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...a/9111c541.jpg

PhxPavilion Feb 28, 2010 3:19 AM

Come again?

Vicelord John Feb 28, 2010 3:30 AM

If you dont know, you dont need to know.

Leo the Dog Feb 28, 2010 11:51 AM

Looks like cigna. I went to one of those when I had an ear ache last year. Very quick place to go if you just need a script for antibiotics. $29 first visit, second is $59.

TAZ4ate0 Feb 28, 2010 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratmanaz (Post 4720092)
Sure would love to see the Hotel Monroe come to fruition.

+1

It was one of the coolest projects going on in town until this stupid economy thing killed it.

Leo the Dog Mar 2, 2010 10:15 PM

New landscaping going in along 3rd St from Van Buren to Monroe and along Monroe to 2nd St. Its basically the area bordering the Herberger Theatre. Some hardscape too, red cement along planter strips next to the parking meters. In the planter strips, looks like a type of yucca shrubbery and palo verdes going in...(I think??) with dark brown gravel.

PhxPavilion Mar 2, 2010 11:06 PM

^ It's part of the Herberger theatre's renovation, if you weren't already aware.

Leo the Dog Mar 3, 2010 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PhxPavilion (Post 4726928)
^ It's part of the Herberger theatre's renovation, if you weren't already aware.

Yeah, I kinda figured that, being that it was only in the areas around the theatre. The whole common areas around the Herberger are in much need of renovations/fresh landscaping.

HooverDam Mar 3, 2010 1:51 AM

http://www.azcentral.com/business/ar...enter0303.html

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Westcor is 'transitioning out' of beleaguered Metrocenter
'Changes in consumer-shopping patterns no longer favor large indoor malls,' including former crown jewel in Phoenix
12 comments by Max Jarman - Mar. 2, 2010 05:38 PM
The Arizona Republic
Westcor plans to pull out of the landmark Metrocenter mall and leave its former partners with the task of inventing a viable future for the troubled property.

The longtime Phoenix mall developer confirmed it is "transitioning out" of the management of the 1.4 million-square-foot center and will give up a 15 percent ownership stake in the property.


Vice President Scott Nelson said Westcor's involvement in the center no longer fit with the other owner's plans for the 107-acre site at Interstate 17 and Dunlap Avenue in Phoenix.

"The majority ownership has different goals and business objectives for the property that we were not a part of," Nelson said.

The mall's owners, Somera Capital Management of Santa Barbara, Calif., and Boston's AEW Capital Management, did not return calls for comment on their plans for the property.

Once the Phoenix area's leading mall and the crown jewel of Westcor's retail holdings, Metrocenter has been in decline.

The former middle-class neighborhoods surrounding the mall have become increasingly working class, and rising crime in the area has driven many shoppers to newer malls in other parts of the Valley.

Two of the mall's anchor spaces have been vacant for years, and the Dillard's department store now sells only clearance merchandise.

Metrocenter is about 23 percent vacant.

"The area has become retail-challenged," Westcor's Nelson said.

Westcor has been working with the Urban Land Institute, a real-estate-oriented public-policy group, and Phoenix City Councilman Thelda Williams to reposition the mall and surrounding property.

"The area needs to be rethought," said George Bosworth, executive director of the Urban Land Institute in Phoenix. "Demographics and changes in consumer-shopping patterns no longer favor large indoor malls."

At the request of the city, the ULI convened a committee to study alternative uses for the property and presented findings to the city in November.

The group suggested that vacant retail space in the mall could be used for administrative offices for the health-care industry and private schools and universities could be encouraged to move into now-vacant retail space in the center.

Bosworth said that the area already has a number of private universities and colleges and that there is an existing health-care presence with the nearby regional offices for Blue Cross Blue Shield.

"They would be building on a critical mass that already is in the area," he said.

The ULI study also suggested bringing light rail to the mall to help rejuvenate the property.

"We need to reconfigure the mall and peripheral-land uses over a longer period to bring stronger uses to the area," Bosworth said.

That will take a huge collaborative effort among Phoenix, the mall owners and other parties, according to Nelson.

Although Westcor won't be part of the process, it is working to make a smooth transition out of the project.

"We're working with city management and the City Council to pass the baton to whoever will be the champion and steward of the project going forward," Nelson said.

But it's unsure where the mall owners stand with the recommendations. Bosworth noted that neither Somera nor AEW has communicated plans for the property beyond its current operation.

Westcor founder Rusty Lyon Jr. developed Metrocenter in 1973 with Homart Development Co., the real-estate division of Sears, Roebuck and Co. It was one of the largest malls in the United States and thought to be the first to have five anchors: Sears, Rhodes Brothers, Diamond's, Goldwater's, and Broadway. Rhodes and Diamond's became part of Dillard's and Goldwater's and Broadway are now part of Macy's.

Metrocenter was sold in the 1990s to DVM Co., a joint venture of Simon Property Group and Lyon. In 2005, Metrocenter was sold to Somera, a real-estate investment-fund manager, and AEW, a pension-fund adviser. Westcor was given a contract to manage the mall, and Macerich Co., which acquired Westcor in 2002, took a 15 percent stake in the project.

Westcor is the dominant mall owner in Arizona, with an ownership interest in 32 planned and existing malls and shopping centers.

Macerich last year sold a 49 percent interest in Chandler Fashion Center to raise cash.
Welp this is good news in that it may mean some new future for that area and some (though small) shred of hope for redevelopment. Indoor malls are creepy, unnatural places of the past. Ones in real affluent areas (Chandler and Scottsdale Fashion) will probably always do OK, but their such awful places to be its time to bulldoze places like Metro. Hopefully someone with a brain will develop it in a TOD fashion w/ the potential future LRT being nearby.

glynnjamin Mar 3, 2010 2:30 PM

Now THAT would be a good location for an MLS stadium... Especially if LRT terminated there. Even if they just build a pedestrian bridge over the freeway and had the LRT terminate on the east side of I-17. It would sort of be like the walkway from the BART station to Oakland-Alameda Colosseum.

Right off the freeway so that the rich don't have to drive through ghetto neighborhoods, plenty of parking, close to a large Hispanic population, close to training facilities at Reach 11, and it is surrounded by hotels.

Sounds perfect.

Leo the Dog Mar 3, 2010 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by glynnjamin (Post 4727762)
Now THAT would be a good location for an MLS stadium... Especially if LRT terminated there. Even if they just build a pedestrian bridge over the freeway and had the LRT terminate on the east side of I-17. It would sort of be like the walkway from the BART station to Oakland-Alameda Colosseum.

Right off the freeway so that the rich don't have to drive through ghetto neighborhoods, plenty of parking, close to a large Hispanic population, close to training facilities at Reach 11, and it is surrounded by hotels.

Sounds perfect.

I agree. While I'd like to see it more centrally located to DT, its hard to argue against this location.

combusean Mar 4, 2010 12:07 AM

Glynn you should probably let the owners know about your idea. Oodles of low priced land (either in the parking lots or vacant anchors) and infrastructure plus all the things you mentioned make the site a no brainer for something big. The owners would probably welcome such an endeavor with their present white elephant.

They hire ULI to come out there and the best they can come up with is converting chunks of it to office (blech) or running LRT out to it (duh).

I used to really like the idea of ULI being here but for as outside the box as they're supposed to think they're surprisingly myopic. It's cases like these where they might even be a hindrance to real progress...office? really? so it can follow the path of such gloried relics as Park Central? They really think that works in the long run?

Surprised they didnt think residential. I cant think of anything multifamily off hand that's been built new in the area. The housing stock sucks and probably contributes to the ongoing decline in the area.

Vicelord John Mar 4, 2010 1:50 AM

Really sean. You think we should let the owners of the mall know that we think it should be a soccer stadium? Lmao.

In other news, there is a quick mart opening up at arizona cente right by culture fresh. Hopefully it is reasonably priced and open late.

combusean Mar 4, 2010 2:44 AM

^ Yes, because they're desperate for solutions and got horrendous advice that they actually paid for. Marketing the site to MLS promoters is probably something that they haven't thought of.

Vicelord John Mar 4, 2010 2:48 AM

Dont see how that is going to be something a REIT is interested in or how thwy could make more money than they are off leasing.

combusean Mar 4, 2010 3:02 AM

Bank of America moves to foreclose on Central office tower

by Ken Alltucker - Mar. 4, 2010 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic

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A lender is seeking to foreclose on the Viad Corporate Center, a high-rise office tower on Central Avenue in Phoenix, the latest example of the region's commercial real-estate woes.

Bank of America has asked a Maricopa County Superior Court judge to appoint a receiver for the signature tower at 1850 N. Central Ave. The lender said the building's owner has not kept current since December on a $65 million loan.

A spokesman for Costa Mesa-based real-estate investment firm McCarthy Cook & Co., the building's owner, declined to comment on the lender's action.

The ownership group, MCC/I&G Viad Office Tower Owner LLC, acquired the 478,000-square-foot tower near the height of the Valley's real-estate boom in 2006 for about $105 million.

At the time, the office tower was nearly full. Yet occupancy has dipped to less than 80 percent with significant leases expiring next year.

BofA said in court documents that, since December, the building's owner has not paid interest, tax and insurance escrows, late charges and other fees.

Viad's owners owed more than $3.9 million in back payments and fees as of January.

With BofA seeking an accelerated repayment per the loan's terms, the debt has escalated to over $81.2 million in principal, fees and other costs, the lender said in court documents.

BofA wants the court to appoint San Diego-based Trigild Inc. as the building's receiver. Trigild specializes in distressed-property management, receivership and loan recovery.

Brandon Harrington, a vice president of capital markets with Cohen Financial, said the building's owner may no longer want to pay for a building that has lost significant value.

"They are just making a business decision," Harrington said. "They don't want to throw good money after bad money."

Harrington said lenders face similar scenarios involving commercial real-estate owners failing to keep pace with monthly payments.

Office and other commercial properties are being squeezed by higher vacancies and declining lease rates.

Plus, tenants are finding it easy to negotiate more favorable terms due to market conditions.

Harrington said many lenders are reluctant to seize office buildings because of the hassles of managing the properties.

"Virtually everybody on Central and virtually every submarket has had challenges getting tenants," said Pete Bolton, managing director of Grubb & Ellis. "So, they are just a casualty of this market. There may be a few more before this is all over."

Reach the reporter at ken.alltucker@arizonarepublic.com or 602-444-8285.

Don B. Mar 4, 2010 4:39 AM

^ And the corporate collapse begins. How many skyscrapers are in foreclosure now in Phoenix? How many are abandoned?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../45degrees.jpg

--don

combusean Mar 4, 2010 6:16 AM

^ Viad center's owners faltered at spending other people's money at the detriment of everyone else. That doesn't surprise me.

National Electric Benefit Fund came to Arizona with their own money, built 1CPE, saw that it was faltering and put MORE money into it and now it's 100% occupied.

The people that actually invest themselves here will do just fine.

HooverDam Mar 4, 2010 6:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Don B. (Post 4729280)
^ And the corporate collapse begins. How many skyscrapers are in foreclosure now in Phoenix? How many are abandoned?


--don

Do you beat off to bad news? you sure seem to love it.

HX_Guy Mar 4, 2010 7:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HooverDam (Post 4729443)
Do you beat off to bad news? you sure seem to love it.

I get the same impression. I don't get when people are like that...its almost like they are secretly hoping things just get worse and they get some sort of satisfaction out of it, like they can't wait to say "hahaha I told you so!"


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