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bhawk66 Aug 29, 2019 4:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8672393)
Of course; I am sure there are multiple options. Looking on the bright side, to some handicapped, the trip down would be a dream! They'd feel like they were racing at Monaco.

wow

Donnie77 Aug 29, 2019 5:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8672393)
Of course; I am sure there are multiple options. Looking on the bright side, to some handicapped, the trip down would be a dream! They'd feel like they were racing at Monaco.

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

F1 Tommy Aug 29, 2019 5:31 PM

I think these two buildings are rather nice and will compliment the 900-1000ft corner tower nicely making it like a bookend. That has sort of been one of Chicago's trademarks with Sears on one end and JH on the other(don't really care what they call them now officially) Any skyline argument between NYC and Chicago gets trumped by the more balanced look of Chicago compared to NYC partly due to the big black bookends

BonoboZill4 Aug 29, 2019 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 8672757)
I think these two buildings are rather nice and will compliment the 900-1000ft corner tower nicely making it like a bookend. That has sort of been one of Chicago's trademarks with Sears on one end and JH on the other(don't really care what they call them now officially) Any skyline argument between NYC and Chicago gets trumped by the more balanced look of Chicago compared to NYC partly due to the big black bookends

That's definitely one of the reasons I like how the skyline isn't totally filled to the brim with supertalls. The space between the buildings lets them breathe and creates wonderful peaks and valleys. If everything was tall, I just don't think it would look (as) good. If all the supertalls for the river confluence are built though, it'll be interesting to see, since we have never had supertalls clustered like that before. There will only be a handful of blocks separating Trump, Aon, Pru2, Vista, Site I, 400n LSD, Tribune 2 and potentially whatever takes up the NBC lots. Hopefully it turns out more like Shanghai and less like Dubai

dan ryan Aug 29, 2019 6:38 PM

The thing I keep coming back to is how messy the stretch of buildings on Wacker, from Vista to Parcel I, look.
https://i.imgur.com/By4toTS.jpg

Vlajos Aug 29, 2019 6:51 PM

^messy? I'm not seeing anything messy.

SamInTheLoop Aug 29, 2019 9:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bhawk66 (Post 8672685)
wow



Ummm. Yeah. Not sure that's how many would see it.

Zapatan Aug 30, 2019 12:39 AM

My gosh I hope that view is real someday (like that those towers actually happen in real life instead of being visionary) :yes:

harryc Aug 30, 2019 2:53 AM

Aug 23










Aug 27


#TallShipWindy

Skyguy_7 Aug 30, 2019 3:24 PM

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 3767881)


Wow the site is really buzzing! Anyone know what the big hole is in the foreground? Swimming pool?


..;)

the urban politician Aug 30, 2019 3:26 PM

^ It gets hot in the midday and the workers sometimes need to take an afternoon swim to cool off

RedCorsair87 Aug 30, 2019 4:22 PM

^Don't tease us! Daddy needs a new terracotta skyscraper (or two!)

cozy Sep 1, 2019 5:54 PM

Footage from August 23rd:

Peering in through south fence at ground level


Looking down from N Harbor Dr

Misc pics:

https://i.imgur.com/yjSFYCC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mz9dWvH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8alJQJS.jpg

rivernorthlurker Sep 1, 2019 6:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cozy (Post 8675060)

Dats a big job site.

cozy Sep 1, 2019 6:34 PM

^ Right!!

With cars flying across LSD in the background, this site is so beautifully complex.

Very excited to see where the tower cranes pop up

aaron38 Sep 3, 2019 3:43 AM

Given that it's all one organization, wouldn't it make the most sense to put in all the caissons for Site I at the same time as these? What's the setup/teardown cost versus the incremental labor cost? And won't setup/teardown be harder with a smaller footprint next time?

skysoar Sep 3, 2019 4:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8673700)
Wow the site is really buzzing! Anyone know what the big hole is in the foreground? Swimming pool?


..;)

This site is the Related, or former Spire site correct, and not the Cirrus and Cascade site at LSE?

harryc Sep 3, 2019 1:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skysoar (Post 8675959)
This site is the Related, or former Spire site correct, and not the Cirrus and Cascade site at LSE?

Correct - and 400 is still a nice open space with natural fauna.

Ned.B Sep 3, 2019 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aaron38 (Post 8675943)
Given that it's all one organization, wouldn't it make the most sense to put in all the caissons for Site I at the same time as these? What's the setup/teardown cost versus the incremental labor cost? And won't setup/teardown be harder with a smaller footprint next time?

They probably would see some cost savings to do them at the same time, both in saved mobilization and rising costs of future construction. But in order to do them at the same time, they would need to have the site I design and drawings completed to the point that they can fully develop and permit the foundation, they would need to be certain that future market forces or other factors would not significantly change the design of Site I to be able to use the same foundation, and related to that be certain enough that construction om Site I will happen soon enough and still under Related ownership to make early foundation construction make sense. So it's weighing cost savings against potential risk.

Skyguy_7 Sep 3, 2019 5:32 PM

^This brings us back to the recent post I made in Site I thread. On 8/16, Tom Kerwin posted a photo celebrating the groundbreaking of all these sites including site I. I doubt he made a gaffe. The Architect likely knows something we don't.

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Originally Posted by skysoar (Post 8675959)
This site is the Related, or former Spire site correct, and not the Cirrus and Cascade site at LSE?

Yep, I was just yanking your chain.


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