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rlw777 Sep 23, 2015 2:14 AM

Mark my words. Phase 1 will be built as is phase 2 will be redesigned and still be awesome because twins or near twins almost never get finished in Chicago.

munchymunch Sep 23, 2015 2:22 AM

This tower is 76 stories.

https://twitter.com/DavidLMatthews

sbarn Sep 23, 2015 2:37 AM

Wow! This looks amazing! What a perfect design for Chicago. :cheers:

wierdaaron Sep 23, 2015 2:52 AM

Let's play the bullshit height contest game. Where does this go in the "nth tallest in Chicago" list? Looks like #13 if 829 is right. need to check my notes.

BVictor1 Sep 23, 2015 2:54 AM

The address used this evening was 113 East Roosevelt Road.

Vinoly
https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/


This tower will be 100& rental

mentioned the stepping of the sears tower

terraces/some are public and some are private

in existing planned development

phase 2 would probably be for sale units

Phase one will have 792 units
Phase two will have 648 units
Phase three will have 100 units (townhouses surrounding a park where the old Museum Park sales center used to be)

24 months of construction

retail component 9,000 before and 12,500 now…

BVictor1 Sep 23, 2015 3:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domer2019 (Post 7173536)
Sooo... we're calling this one building, right?

A two-tower Wanda Vista?

There will be two-seperate towers.

Randomguy34 Sep 23, 2015 3:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7173652)

That skyline...:slob::slob::slob::slob::slob::slob:

Quote:

Originally Posted by wierdaaron (Post 7173648)
Let's play the bullshit height contest game. Where does this go in the "nth tallest in Chicago" list? Looks like #13 if 829 is right. need to check my notes.

It looks like we have 1157 buildings (not including under-construction) instead of 829, according to the skyscraper map
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/maps/?cityID=4

munchymunch Sep 23, 2015 3:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7173652)

This is Chicago. :slob:

Kngkyle Sep 23, 2015 3:03 AM

When do they want to start construction? 100% rental means no pre-sales required.

wierdaaron Sep 23, 2015 3:05 AM

The PD is already locked in so I think they only need to get a simple approval from the city, so there's nothing to hold them up except money.

BVictor1 Sep 23, 2015 3:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wierdaaron (Post 7173674)
The PD is already locked in so I think they only need to get a simple approval from the city, so there's nothing to hold them up except money.

The project still needs to go before the plan commission because of the tweaks in design. I was told they want to go in November, but that's not yet locked in.

b0soleil Sep 23, 2015 3:20 AM

Indiana and Roosevelt tower by Vinoly
Height: 829'
Units: 792
Parking: 622? (maybe 522.. photo is fuzzy and I forgot my glasses for the presentation)


http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/...psgloc2kzt.jpg
Photo of Vinoly and model of the building


http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/...psb6bw1vow.jpg
Left side is what the building will look like next to it's neighbors. Right side shows a hypothetical twin on Michigan and Roosevelt. (though likely it'll be different looking and be condos. Though the height is likely more or less correct.)


http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2dxfyj5d.jpg
View from the lake.


http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/...psyetvn6lh.jpg
Stats on the building (sorry, fuzzy)


http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/...psn8rrwrb9.jpg
Traffic flow

JMO_0121 Sep 23, 2015 3:24 AM

I rather have 700-900 ft buildings that eventually get buil rathert than 1,300+ illusions that never move past just that, illusions.

So if this is s sign of a "boom" in construction, I'd be more than happy with buildings like these built across the city.

This is just spectacular. No words to describe. So much better than what's going to take place in LSE.

BVictor1 Sep 23, 2015 3:30 AM

I'm fairly sure that the height 829' doesn't include any parapet or architectural element that could potentially allow the height to rise. Regardless, 829' is by no means shabby.

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

Steely Dan Sep 23, 2015 3:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7173730)
I'm fairly sure that the height 829' doesn't include any parapet or architectural element that could potentially allow the height to rise.

That makes sense with what ardecila reported a while ago. He said 830' to t/ parapet, 862' to t/ decorative rooftop structure, so 862' is probably still closer to the total height.

The Lurker Sep 23, 2015 3:38 AM

My flabbers are ghasted. What an excellent surprise on an otherwise depressing day. Lets get the first tower built first but as we've seen with the streeter towers, 600 LSD, and less recently Grand Plaza, twin towers can and will be built in Chicago. Granted the scale is a little different here. The rendering looks closer to the 862' as it appears well over 100 feet taller than OMP. That or the render is a little bloated.

aaron38 Sep 23, 2015 3:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7173665)
There will be two-seperate towers.

Would they really do the foundation work separately? Seems like there'd be a lot of efficiency in doing all the caison work while the entire site is empty and accessible.

the urban politician Sep 23, 2015 3:44 AM

Wow, I'm catching all this now.

This will be a beast for the south loop skyline. And I agree that this is a VERY Chicago design.

The south wall of Grant Park just told the world to go blow itself. But I'm worried about the shadows over the park. Mr. D, can you wipe that dust off your shadow study software and show us some diagrams?

LouisVanDerWright Sep 23, 2015 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7173761)
Mr. D, can you wipe that dust off your shadow study software and show us some diagrams?

Seconded, this is a major concern. The world could potentially end if these towers are built. The shadows could cause the new skatepark to reach absolute zero and create a black hole.

2PRUROCKS! Sep 23, 2015 3:54 AM

I guess I will be the first contrarian. I don't care for the design all that much. I don't care for most of Vinoly's work. Phase 1 is ok and I hope it gets built but it is nothing earth shattering like some posting here seem to imply. I don't usually like twin towers and I hope phase 2 is completely redesigned by a different architect. This design seems too bulky and boxy (especially with the twin) and lacks elegance while also braking no new ground in architecture. I much prefer the Spire (rip), Wanda Vista and even the SCB tower also presented today for 1300 S. Michigan.


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