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Crawford Apr 10, 2020 11:13 AM

Looks like 28 Days Later. Just needs packs of ravenous zombies.

10023 Apr 10, 2020 2:37 PM

I was thinking taking my camera out tomorrow to do the same thing.

Of course, it could also be that everyone is in the parks (where I am now).

suburbanite Apr 10, 2020 3:14 PM

I'd love to walk around London for a day with no people. Just have to bring your own food and booze.

iheartthed Apr 10, 2020 3:44 PM

London actually looks better with no people.

suburbanite Apr 10, 2020 3:47 PM

It really brings out the architecture and streetscapes. Obviously though you're missing some of the best parts of London in the pubs, restaurants, museums, markets, etc.

sopas ej Apr 10, 2020 4:02 PM

I wanna make an appointment to get tested myself, now that LA County has opened testing to all.



From welikela.com

L.A. Aims For 60,000 Tests By End of Next Week, Deploys Mobile Testing Teams


APRIL 9, 2020 BY JULIET BENNETT RYLAH

From the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, officials have stressed testing as one of the key tools in mitigating the spread of the virus. Los Angeles has been ramping up testing over the last several days. In today’s briefing, Mayor Eric Garcetti said the county tested over 4,000 people today—a new record. The city hopes to hit 60,000 tests by the end of next, which is double our current total of 30,000.

Garcetti also announced mobile testing teams, who will rush to nursing homes and other facilities where residents or employees are displaying symptoms. These teams will help avoid outbreaks, which L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer recently defined as three or more cases in an institutional setting.

Any facility that homes the elderly, chronically ill, or those with disabilities can apply for mobile testing. This also includes nursing homes, skilled nursing facilities, assisted living facilities, and respiratory hospitals.

[...]

Link: https://www.welikela.com/covid-19-te...-PBuISrqH1OP3k

pj3000 Apr 10, 2020 4:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 8889684)

Bottom line...I'm seeing inconsistencies. Some people not taking things seriously, but others definitely taking it seriously.

I've been limiting my shopping trips, trying to do it once every 1 1/2 - 2 weeks. Yesterday, I made 3 stops: supermarket, hardware store, brewery.

Supermarket: approx 85% of customers wearing masks; hardly any employees wearing masks (only saw 2 cashiers wearing masks; 0 shelf stockers, deli counter, lot/cart attendants, managers, etc. wearing masks)

Home Depot: about the same, almost all customers wearing masks 85-90%; 0% of employees had them on

Brewery: I was only one picking beer up at the time and I had a mask on, so 100% of customers; 100% of employees wearing masks (saw 5 employees)

In Pennsylvania, the Governor requested everyone wear masks when outside of the home. One would think large chain stores especially would require employees to wear masks. :shrug:

SteveD Apr 10, 2020 4:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pj3000 (Post 8889975)
I've been limiting my shopping trips, trying to do it once every 1 1/2 - 2 weeks. Yesterday, I made 3 stops: supermarket, hardware store, brewery.

Supermarket: approx 85% of customers wearing masks; hardly any employees wearing masks (only saw 2 cashiers wearing masks; 0 shelf stockers, deli counter, lot/cart attendants, managers, etc. wearing masks)

Home Depot: about the same, almost all customers wearing masks 85-90%; 0% of employees had them on

Brewery: I was only one picking beer up at the time and I had a mask on, so 100% of customers; 100% of employees wearing masks (saw 5 employees)

In Pennsylvania, the Governor requested everyone wear masks when outside of the home. One would think large chain stores especially would require employees to wear masks. :shrug:

Similar experience for me. One trip to Kroger yesterday...we are going about every 8 to 9 days since this all went down...most but not all customers wearing masks, about half the employees. I'm about to make a run to the liquor store...I need my half gallon of Tito's. Since it's Friday I expect quite a few people, I'll have my mask on again...

sopas ej Apr 10, 2020 4:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pj3000 (Post 8889975)
I've been limiting my shopping trips, trying to do it once every 1 1/2 - 2 weeks. Yesterday, I made 3 stops: supermarket, hardware store, brewery.

Supermarket: approx 85% of customers wearing masks; hardly any employees wearing masks (only saw 2 cashiers wearing masks; 0 shelf stockers, deli counter, lot/cart attendants, managers, etc. wearing masks)

Home Depot: about the same, almost all customers wearing masks 85-90%; 0% of employees had them on

Brewery: I was only one picking beer up at the time and I had a mask on, so 100% of customers; 100% of employees wearing masks (saw 5 employees)

In Pennsylvania, the Governor requested everyone wear masks when outside of the home. One would think large chain stores especially would require employees to wear masks. :shrug:

I see many people wearing masks where I live. The company I work for has required us to wear masks (or some kind of cloth covering) when entering, exiting, and walking through the building. We don't have to wear masks at our desks/inside our individual offices, though, but if someone enters our work space, if you can't maintain 6 feet distance, both (or more) people have to put on their masks.

I wasn't gonna say anything at my company (didn't want to stir the pot), and I'm not surprised, but my thing is, if we're required to wear masks, then the company should provide them, but I'm not surprised that they're not providing them because the company is so goddamned stingy.

I started bringing my mask to work before the company directive.

pj3000 Apr 10, 2020 4:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8889997)

I wasn't gonna say anything at my company (didn't want to stir the pot), and I'm not surprised, but my thing is, if we're required to wear masks, then the company should provide them, but I'm not surprised that they're not providing them because the company is so goddamned stingy.

Companies that do not provide their employees proper protective gear during all of this are opening themselves up to the potential for significant class action lawsuits against them.

If I was class action attorney, I would be driving around my state to major retail chains and providing my card to all employees who were not provided proper protective equipment by their employer.

SIGSEGV Apr 10, 2020 4:54 PM

Got grocery delivery yesterday, even though the grocery store is a block away :haha:. It was...ok. They ran out of random items but fortunately it didn't severely ruin any of the dishes we were planning on making.

JManc Apr 10, 2020 5:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pj3000 (Post 8890002)
Companies that do not provide their employees proper protective gear during all of this are opening themselves up to the potential for significant class action lawsuits against them.

If I was class action attorney, I would be driving around my state to major retail chains and providing my card to all employees who were not provided proper protective equipment by their employer.

This.

I notice CVS, at least the one by me, is putting bins in front of check out and Pharmacy counters forcing a 5-6' space between the unwashed public and their employees.

10023 Apr 10, 2020 7:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pj3000 (Post 8890002)
Companies that do not provide their employees proper protective gear during all of this are opening themselves up to the potential for significant class action lawsuits against them.

If I was class action attorney, I would be driving around my state to major retail chains and providing my card to all employees who were not provided proper protective equipment by their employer.

I think that’s a big part of the difference in life right now between London and American cities. This is not as litigious a society, so while Whole Foods cashiers are beyond a plastic screen (and really only because it’s an American company), most places are taking reasonable steps but not worried about this.

Personally, as I mentioned before, I’m making even more of a point than normal about shopping at independent, local shops. I know the owners, at least to the point of familiarity, and they’re all very happy that you’re helping them stay in business. Obviously you never, ever touch anything you’re not buying (no feeling for ripeness in corona-times), but they’re all more worried about their business and livelihoods than catching it (and are all generally younger than 50).

Pedestrian Apr 10, 2020 8:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8890150)
you never, ever touch anything you’re not buying (no feeling for ripeness in corona-times), but they’re all more worried about their business and livelihoods than catching it (and are all generally younger than 50).

Do you hand them your credit card or filthy cash, or do they let you swipe it yourself or use Apple Pay or some other hands-free payment? Because too many of the local stores around me don't have the swipe-it-yourself or Apple Pay technology. That's one thing that bothers me about them. And even better is the check yourself out technology like Walmart has (please no diatribes about Walmart not being organic and all that which is only partly true anyway).

Anyway, I'm sticking to Instacart for now. If I have to go to a grocery store, it'll be after dinner, as close to closing time as I can manage it.

Pedestrian Apr 10, 2020 8:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JManc (Post 8890020)
This.

I notice CVS, at least the one by me, is putting bins in front of check out and Pharmacy counters forcing a 5-6' space between the unwashed public and their employees.

If I have to let the check-out clerk handle my credit card, it's all for nothing. Unless the clerk is obviously coughing or sneezing, I can handle the distance but not the touching.

Pedestrian Apr 10, 2020 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveD (Post 8889983)
I need my half gallon of Tito's.

For hand sanitizer, surely.

rsbear Apr 10, 2020 8:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8890168)
If I have to let the check-out clerk handle my credit card, it's all for nothing. Unless the clerk is obviously coughing or sneezing, I can handle the distance but not the touching.

Just take one Clorox wipe with you into the store then clean your card after swiping it or when the clerk returns it to you.

I take a couple with me, just in case the store doesn't have them available. I also use wipes to open doors in the dairy and frozen food areas and to clean the touchscreen and keypad at checkout.

iheartthed Apr 10, 2020 8:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8890168)
If I have to let the check-out clerk handle my credit card, it's all for nothing. Unless the clerk is obviously coughing or sneezing, I can handle the distance but not the touching.

How is this any different than the Instacart shoppers handling your food?

sopas ej Apr 10, 2020 8:54 PM

I wonder if my employer will comply with the requirement that they have to provide face coverings to their employees. I will find out soon enough! In the meantime, I have a supply of surgeon's masks.

From ABC7 Los Angeles:

Coronavirus: Los Angeles County extends 'safer at home' order until May 15, issues requirements on face coverings

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Health and elected officials on Friday announced the "safer at home" order that has been in effect throughout Los Angeles County since last month will be extended until at least May 15.

The announcement was made during the county's daily briefing, where officials also said face coverings will be required in public countywide beginning at midnight on April 15.

"We're extending the health officer orders -- which, as you know, require a fair amount of distancing and continue to keep in place closures of non-essential business -- not because everything everyone has been doing isn't working...it's because it is working. We know it's effective, but we still have a ways to go in order to both protect the lives of people who live in our county and to make sure that our health care system remains fully able to service all who need their care," said Dr. Barbara Ferrer, director of the Department of Public Health.

The new health order requires each essential business to implement and document a social distancing and sanitation plan, and requires the plan to be visibly posted at the front of individual business locations.

Employers must also provide cloth face coverings to their employees, according to the order, while members of the public must wear such coverings when visiting those businesses or when they are in close contact with others.

Cities in Los Angeles County can be more restrictive, but not less, than what the health order requires, officials said.

Ferrer also confirmed the flattening of the curve as a result of Los Angeles County residents heeding the "safer-at-home" order.

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said people may be cited for not wearing masks in public after the order goes into effect.

Pasadena and Long Beach, which have their own respective health departments, have been implementing their own guidelines.

Link: https://abc7.com/health/covid-19-la-...bMtXvLCFdwseYU

montréaliste Apr 10, 2020 8:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rsbear (Post 8890181)
Just take one Clorox wipe with you into the store then clean your card after swiping it or when the clerk returns it to you.

I take a couple with me, just in case the store doesn't have them available. I also use wipes to open doors in the dairy and frozen food areas and to clean the touchscreen and keypad at checkout.

That is the only sensible thing to do.

Also, do any of you use paypass for orders under a hundred dollars?

I just tap and don't need to enter a pin number.

Supermarkets here had special handwash stations with attendants that make you scrub before entering the store. They also only provide disinfected carts as you enter, make you.leave the ones you picked outside the store.

I was at Home Depot picking leaf bags for my garden and was surprised at the lack of measures. They had no disinfectant station in spite of their huge stock of cleaning products.
All they had was a fiberglass screen for tellers.

suburbanite Apr 10, 2020 9:05 PM

When I'm in the states I'm always still surprised with the lack of tap, or even pin, POS systems.

No one's touched my credit card but me in years.

sopas ej Apr 10, 2020 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 8890224)
When I'm in the states I'm always still surprised with the lack of tap, or even pin, POS systems.

No one's touched my credit card but me in years.

Which states?

Here in the Los Angeles area, many restaurants and bars have switched to POS systems, but some restaurants are still old school where they take your debit/credit card away, and then return with it later with the bill.

10023 Apr 10, 2020 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8890165)
Do you hand them your credit card or filthy cash, or do they let you swipe it yourself or use Apple Pay or some other hands-free payment? Because too many of the local stores around me don't have the swipe-it-yourself or Apple Pay technology. That's one thing that bothers me about them. And even better is the check yourself out technology like Walmart has (please no diatribes about Walmart not being organic and all that which is only partly true anyway).

Anyway, I'm sticking to Instacart for now. If I have to go to a grocery store, it'll be after dinner, as close to closing time as I can manage it.

Almost all payments here are by contactless card payment in normal times. Either through the usual handheld point of sale devices that can also accept PINs, or at the places I go to, Square or Stripe are pretty ubiquitous. There’s generally no taking of cards by the waitstaff or signing receipts (unless someone is paying with an American card) in Europe anyway.

Most places are not accepting cash, except for some market stalls or the Arab grocers I sometimes go to (where the staff are largely Syrian refugees who could not be less concerned about this).

10023 Apr 10, 2020 9:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 8890224)
When I'm in the states I'm always still surprised with the lack of tap, or even pin, POS systems.

No one's touched my credit card but me in years.

Exactly. And I don’t think I’ve withdrawn cash from an ATM since like November.

sopas ej Apr 10, 2020 9:19 PM

I still use cash, but mainly to buy lotto tickets every so often; at least in California, by law, you can only purchase lottery tickets with cash.

10023 Apr 10, 2020 9:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8890240)
I still use cash, but mainly to buy lotto tickets every so often; at least in California, by law, you can only purchase lottery tickets with cash.

That makes no sense. I understand not allowing credit cards (they’ve just disallowed that for betting apps here), but why not a debit card?

suburbanite Apr 10, 2020 9:30 PM

I'd say 80% of the cash I see around friends/coworkers is for buying coke, or drinks at the bar without opening a tab.

niwell Apr 10, 2020 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 8890224)
When I'm in the states I'm always still surprised with the lack of tap, or even pin, POS systems.

No one's touched my credit card but me in years.

Yeah this seems to be a distinctly American thing, though in some places it’s beginning to change. I can even tap my card at most independent convenience stores here, and it’s certainly available at any larger establishment. At the very least you handle the machine yourself and the store clerk doesn’t touch your card at all. The only exceptions really are a few bars I know that are cash only (which is a choice on their part. This has been the case everywhere I’ve travelled in Europe for some time and I even used my Canadian debit card to tap regularly when living in South Africa!

Honestly the main reason I ever get cash is because my favourite local is cash only, so I take out enough for that and to buy coffee during the work week. All of which aren’t happening now naturally.

sopas ej Apr 10, 2020 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8890247)
That makes no sense. I understand not allowing credit cards (they’ve just disallowed that for betting apps here), but why not a debit card?

Probably for the same reason as not being able to use credit cards---to discourage people with gambling problems. ATMs only dispense a maximum of $500 cash, I think (or is it 1000?), and it takes more effort to line up and see a bank teller to withdraw cash.

Pedestrian Apr 10, 2020 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 8890202)
How is this any different than the Instacart shoppers handling your food?

When the Instacart person leaves the grocery bags at my door, I can unpack them at my liesure, wipe them with an alcohol wipe if I choose and then wash my hands.

I could bring a bag of alcohol wipes to the store and wipe down my card after the clerk handles it, but that seems a little insulting and I would be ashamed to do it.

Pedestrian Apr 10, 2020 10:22 PM

Quote:

San Francisco Mayor orders cap on fees restaurants pay to food delivery apps
By Alex Barreira – Staff Reporter, San Francisco Business Times
44 minutes ago

Struggling San Francisco restaurants got a bit of good news Friday with an executive order from San Francisco Mayor London Breed that caps commission fees charged by food delivery services at 15%.

Since the city’s mandatory shelter-in-place order on March 16, restaurants have not been allowed to host dine-in services. To reach customers they’ve leaned heavily on third-party delivery companies such as GrubHub and UberEats, which have served as a lifeline — but also a source of frustration, as commission fees on every order range from 10-30%. Customers also pay a delivery fee in many cases.

Mayor Breed’s order applies for the duration of the declared local emergency or until restaurants can resume in-person dining, according to the press release, but the release did not specify whether the order will take effect immediately or in the coming days.

The Golden Gate Restaurant Association estimates that of the city’s approximately 4,000 restaurants, about 30-50% are still operating and offering food delivery, some of them getting creative to maximize this capacity . . . .
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranc...NsMjYifQ%3D%3D

Pedestrian Apr 10, 2020 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niwell (Post 8890280)
Yeah this seems to be a distinctly American thing, though in some places it’s beginning to change. I can even tap my card at most independent convenience stores here, and it’s certainly available at any larger establishment. At the very least you handle the machine yourself and the store clerk doesn’t touch your card at all. The only exceptions really are a few bars I know that are cash only (which is a choice on their part. This has been the case everywhere I’ve travelled in Europe for some time and I even used my Canadian debit card to tap regularly when living in South Africa!

Honestly the main reason I ever get cash is because my favourite local is cash only, so I take out enough for that and to buy coffee during the work week. All of which aren’t happening now naturally.

The major stores all have this capacity--I specified this as an issue at small independent food sellers and corner markets. They often don't keep up with technology because it costs them. It also would be an issue at restaurants if they were open. It's normal for the waiter to take your card, then bring it back to you with a receipt to be signed. I've never liked that. They could use a Square device--after all, that's a home town company--but they mostly don't (small merchants at farmers' markets and such do though).

Anyway, I have trouble with the tap thing--usually takes multiple tries. I don't really care for it to be honest.

rsbear Apr 10, 2020 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8890306)
When the Instacart person leaves the grocery bags at my door, I can unpack them at my liesure, wipe them with an alcohol wipe if I choose and then wash my hands.

I could bring a bag of alcohol wipes to the store and wipe down my card after the clerk handles it, but that seems a little insulting and I would be ashamed to do it.

I wipe my card BEFORE I hand it to them. The response has always been one of appreciation. I then wipe it after they hand it back and I've not noticed any negative reaction.

montréaliste Apr 10, 2020 11:46 PM

The only places I haven't been able to use tap are self serve islands for fuel. They don't use that technology in Quebec.

Home Depot have enabled it just for this crisis according to the cashier where I shopped yesterday. She said they would revert to pin entry after the crisis???

My favorite bagel shop in Montreal (Fairmount bagel) only takes cash. But I haven't been to Montreal in four weeks. I can get them at Costco, if I want to.

JManc Apr 11, 2020 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8890168)
If I have to let the check-out clerk handle my credit card, it's all for nothing. Unless the clerk is obviously coughing or sneezing, I can handle the distance but not the touching.

I almost always use Apple Pay if I can. Convenient and now handy when trying to minimize contact. Yes, having them handle your card defeats all those protections.

chris08876 Apr 11, 2020 2:07 AM

Tonight.

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/busin...9f9b0b5e9.jpeg

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/busin...c3103f046.jpeg

Subway ridership down 90%.

AviationGuy Apr 11, 2020 4:32 AM

More inconsistencies today. Went to my usual PetSmart to hunt for something I couldn't find online, and of the four employees, two were wearing masks and two were not. I asked the checker why some were not, and she said the masks are too hot, that the company doesn't require them, and that the company doesn't provide them. The checker raised her mask up while talking, which was stupid. Of the dozen or so customers in the store at the time, none had on a mask but me, and the children I observed obviously had been given no guidance on distancing themselves from other customers.

My next stop was a neighborhood grocery store, and it was very crowded. All but one customer was masked, as were all employees. A problem was that there was no station by the carts to clean the handles, so customers had to use their own sanitizer for that, if available. No paper towels were provided to assist with cleaning the handles.

Pedestrian Apr 11, 2020 8:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsbear (Post 8890357)
I wipe my card BEFORE I hand it to them. The response has always been one of appreciation. I then wipe it after they hand it back and I've not noticed any negative reaction.

Good idea--I may do that if/when I return to a store but I haven't been in one now in 2 weeks and have no plans to go back to one as long as I don't run out of anything critical.

CaliNative Apr 11, 2020 9:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 8890530)
More inconsistencies today. Went to my usual PetSmart to hunt for something I couldn't find online, and of the four employees, two were wearing masks and two were not. I asked the checker why some were not, and she said the masks are too hot, that the company doesn't require them, and that the company doesn't provide them. The checker raised her mask up while talking, which was stupid. Of the dozen or so customers in the store at the time, none had on a mask but me, and the children I observed obviously had been given no guidance on distancing themselves from other customers.

My next stop was a neighborhood grocery store, and it was very crowded. All but one customer was masked, as were all employees. A problem was that there was no station by the carts to clean the handles, so customers had to use their own sanitizer for that, if available. No paper towels were provided to assist with cleaning the handles.

Lawsuits could take care of this problem. I read a story that the family of a store employee who died after contracting covid-19 is suing, claiming that the employee caught the disease in the store and that the store did not provide masks or other protective measures to keep the employees safe. When the stores start getting sued by employees and even customers, they will act to make stores more safe (many are already), especially if these turn into potentially costly class action suits. Many stores are now limiting the number of people that can enter a store, and scrubbing down surfaces. This is all good. I can also see hospitals getting sued if they did not provide enough protective masks and other protective equipment to employees. The potential of a pandemic was known as far back as January, or cetainly February. The increased protective measures could also increase prices for consumers, but it will make for safer stores and hospitals.

10023 Apr 11, 2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 8890530)
More inconsistencies today. Went to my usual PetSmart to hunt for something I couldn't find online, and of the four employees, two were wearing masks and two were not. I asked the checker why some were not, and she said the masks are too hot, that the company doesn't require them, and that the company doesn't provide them. The checker raised her mask up while talking, which was stupid. Of the dozen or so customers in the store at the time, none had on a mask but me, and the children I observed obviously had been given no guidance on distancing themselves from other customers.

My next stop was a neighborhood grocery store, and it was very crowded. All but one customer was masked, as were all employees. A problem was that there was no station by the carts to clean the handles, so customers had to use their own sanitizer for that, if available. No paper towels were provided to assist with cleaning the handles.

This is really bringing out Americans’ natural tendency to lecture others and claim moral superiority, isn’t it?

Not to mention that basically the whole country is hypochondriac, over-prescribed and over-treated medically, with paranoia about illness fed by things like WebMD.

It must be a really weird feeling back home.

pj3000 Apr 11, 2020 1:46 PM

It’s more about understanding microbiology and disease vectors than it is about moral superiority, as far as I’m concerned. Ignorance and/or negligence do not get a pass in my book. As a physician who’s specialized in tropical medicine and infectious disease for about 20 years now, I feel well qualified to tell people acting like idiots to get with the fucking program or stay in your house.

Novel respiratory system-attacking viruses arent going away, and unless we learn something collectively about how to slow and reduce their spread throughout the population, this current situation will be a far too repetitive ordeal globally.

hauntedheadnc Apr 11, 2020 2:34 PM

Coronavirus Crisis: Snapshot of Western North Carolina

In other news Henderson County, the county south of Asheville, has almost double the number of the cases as Buncombe County and has had five deaths. Henderson has had 68 cases and 5 deaths to Buncombe's 39 cases and 2 deaths. Henderson County is a major retirement area, and has had a major outbreak in a nursing home there.

In further news, someone stole the "Heroes Work Here" sign out front of Mission Hospital in Asheville, and someone else used a crowbar to steal a hand sanitizer dispenser from a gas station in West Asheville.

And lastly, my husband and I had to go pick up a part yesterday for a computer he's building from the Best Buy in Greenville, SC. When you cross the state line, a cheery message greets you from the big electronic sign overhanging the interstate: GO HOME STAY HOME.

the urban politician Apr 11, 2020 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8890624)
This is really bringing out Americans’ natural tendency to lecture others and claim moral superiority, isn’t it?

Not to mention that basically the whole country is hypochondriac, over-prescribed and over-treated medically, with paranoia about illness fed by things like WebMD.

It must be a really weird feeling back home.

I usually don’t agree with your incessant complaining about America, but you are 100% spot on here.

Our society here in the US is definitely both a hypochondriac as well as a finger pointing society. The more they have, the more they act like they are deprived. It’s always about blaming someone. It’s always about “who did this to me? Who’s fault is it?” People want to have a label/scapegoat and an immediate fix for every problem.

And the moral lecturing is spot on.

iheartthed Apr 11, 2020 4:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8890247)
That makes no sense. I understand not allowing credit cards (they’ve just disallowed that for betting apps here), but why not a debit card?

Huge fraud risk.

chris08876 Apr 11, 2020 4:35 PM

NYC schools to remain closed for the rest of the school year.

mousquet Apr 11, 2020 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8890762)
NYC schools to remain closed for the rest of the school year.

My neighborhood's kids are going to clap and cheer like crazy in 10 minutes from now... 8 pm.
You know, the ritual to give thanks to caregivers and all those who can't work from home.
They're sick of being locked up with their annoying parents, missing their schoolmates, almost missing school life, kinda fed up with video games and Netflix... It's not so funny when you can't go outside at will. Damn, it's getting to some crazy point that they are kinda missing school now.
And they are loud in this neighborhood at 8 pm. Actually, they challenge their parents at being the loudest, lol.

Bah, kids can afford to be careless and funny because they have their entire lives to live. :)

Pedestrian Apr 11, 2020 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8890762)
NYC schools to remain closed for the rest of the school year.

Maybe (I really enjoy watching these 2 fight).

Quote:

Cuomo Says New York Mayor Doesn’t Have the Authority to Keep Schools Closed
By Katie Honan and Lee Hawkins
Updated April 11, 2020 1:29 pm ET

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said Saturday that he would keep the city’s public school system closed for the rest of the school year, but the state’s governor quickly challenged him on the decision.

The system, the largest in the nation, has been closed since March 16 because of the state’s coronavirus outbreak. It won’t reopen until September out of caution for students, faculty and staff, Mr. de Blasio said at press conference Saturday morning.

“Everything we’re doing is to protect our children, our families, to help end the pain and the trauma,” he said. “We’ve all been through so much, but we have to work constantly to make sure that this ends.”

Hours later, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said only the state has the power to extend school closures.

“There has been no decision. That’s the mayor’s opinion,” Mr. Cuomo said at a press conference.

The governor issued an executive order on March 18 requiring state approval for any local ordinances. He previously ordered all schools in the state to remain closed until April 29. He said Saturday that he would coordinate decisions about all schools in the New York City region and plans to reopen them at the same time.

In response to Mr. Cuomo’s remarks, a spokeswoman for the mayor said the city’s public-school system would remain closed and that Mr. de Blasio would be proven right about his timeline for reopening . . . .

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iheartthed Apr 11, 2020 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8890881)
Maybe (I really enjoy watching these 2 fight).


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The schools will obviously not reopen this school year, but what's more annoying is that these two obviously don't talk to each other. Governor Egotistical vs. Mayor Egotistical.

bossabreezes Apr 11, 2020 8:21 PM

Both are annoying but De Blasio is far more unlikable.

JManc Apr 11, 2020 9:26 PM

This is probably the first time I recall NYS throwing its weight around and reminding NYC who's really in charge. Otherwise NYC operates like a state within a state.


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