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homebucket Mar 2, 2022 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pdxtex (Post 9554653)
I just watched a little. Im glad he finally called everyone out and said its time to go back to the office.....downtown.....everywhere. We'll see how the populous takes it.

While it would be healthy for our downtowns, the reality is there's nothing he or anybody else can do about it. It's up to the companies and their arrangements with their workers.

pdxtex Mar 2, 2022 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by homebucket (Post 9554659)
While it would be healthy for our downtowns, the reality is there's nothing he or anybody else can do about it. It's up to the companies and their arrangements with their workers.

Yep. And the workers are feisty. He should turn all that corona dough into nice tax free bonuses as an incentive!

the urban politician Mar 2, 2022 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by homebucket (Post 9554659)
While it would be healthy for our downtowns, the reality is there's nothing he or anybody else can do about it. It's up to the companies and their arrangements with their workers.

Perhaps, but hearing it from the President during the State of the Union address could have an impact. It could be the beginning of getting some of the more germaphobic types to get their head out of the sand and come to grips, if even a little bit

homebucket Mar 3, 2022 12:07 AM

I guess 3 days a week is better than 0.

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Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

OAKLAND, Calif. (Reuters) - Alphabet Inc's Google from April 4 will require employees back about three days a week in some of its U.S., U.K. and Asia Pacific offices, its first step to end policies that allowed remote work because of COVID-19 concerns.

An internal email on Wednesday seen by Reuters told employees in the San Francisco Bay Area that "advances in prevention and treatment, the steady decline in cases we continue to see and the improved safety measures we have implemented ... now mean we can officially begin the transition to the hybrid work week."

Google joins a wave of technology and finance companies that have begun mandating a return to office. While some big employers have embraced voluntary work-from-home policies permanently, others including Google are betting that it is best to push in-person interactions among colleagues.

Google expects most employees will be in offices about three days a week, with some variance by team and role.

Everyone coming to the office must be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or have an approved exemption, according to the email from John Casey, Google's vice president of global benefits. Unvaccinated workers without an exemption will be given an option to seek one or apply for permanent remote work.

Fully vaccinated workers will not have to wear masks in Bay Area offices, Casey said.

Google declined to specify the other locations returning to normal on April 4, pending formal announcements to workers at those sites.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/g...204018917.html

JManc Mar 3, 2022 2:02 AM

^ I have a colleague who works for Google and they were never given a definitive date so this is pretty sudden for them even though many probably though it would be pushed out indefinitely. We've always had a hard return date but at least we were given a 6 month heads up. One of my co-workers even moved away from Bay Area temporarily to save 3 grand a month on rent for the next several months. I get to stay at my house here and save a ton of $$$ until I go back out there.

the urban politician Mar 3, 2022 2:22 AM

Push these snowflakes off of their la-z-boys and back into the office, I say.

I’ve met some weird 20 something’s over the last few years, all of them are software types who work from home. One of them is going to do something crazy and blow up the world with a new computer virus if they don’t get laid soon

pip Mar 3, 2022 4:12 AM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9554918)
Push these snowflakes off of their la-z-boys and back into the office, I say.

I’ve met some weird 20 something’s over the last few years, all of them are software types who work from home. One of them is going to do something crazy and blow up the world with a new computer virus if they don’t get laid soon

As soon as you move your practice from the suburbs to the Loop, move to the city and take the CTA to work. Don't be "Do as I say not as I do".

photoLith Mar 3, 2022 7:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9554900)
^ I have a colleague who works for Google and they were never given a definitive date so this is pretty sudden for them even though many probably though it would be pushed out indefinitely. We've always had a hard return date but at least we were given a 6 month heads up. One of my co-workers even moved away from Bay Area temporarily to save 3 grand a month on rent for the next several months. I get to stay at my house here and save a ton of $$$ until I go back out there.

I work in oil and gas, haven’t heard a peep from my company about going back to the office, although in my line of work I have to find a job every 3 months to a year or so. I worked for EQT when the rona started, had to work from home for them since the lockdowns happened; until my project ended in Sept of 2021 and they laid everyone off. The new company I work for, which is a law firm, had a strict 8-5 office policy where everyone had to wear suits and ties to the office everyday. I’ve been to the office once for the 6 months I’ve worked there and there’s no signs they want us back in the office. And oil and gas law firms are usually run by very Republican people. They prob figured that it saves them tons of money on computers, energy costs, coffee costs etc and will just have us stay at home indefinitely, until I get laid off soon probably.

In the jobs I do other than one that I had, they’ve all been remote though. The best gig I had I got put on some bs oil and gas lease ownership update spreadsheet project where I really only had to work 4 hours a day to get all my shit done. That year was awesome, I traveled everywhere and just worked some hours everyday at a coffee shop wherever I was. Can’t do that now as I need 3 screens to do my job and have to work about 12 hours a day as oil and gas companies have gotten insanely competitive and don’t pay brokers like they used to. Projects that were allotted 2 weeks per file, which is really what it takes to do a good job, they now want done in 30 hours. It’s insane. All I do now is fucking work.

the urban politician Mar 3, 2022 1:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9555015)
As soon as you move your practice from the suburbs to the Loop, move to the city and take the CTA to work. Don't be "Do as I say not as I do".

Uhh, I don’t have a “practice”, genius. Like most people in my profession, I am employed and work where I am told to work.

And either way, I do not, and never have, worked from home. I actually have to shower, shave, wear nice clothes, and travel to a workplace. It’s what professionals do

suburbanite Mar 3, 2022 2:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9555233)
Uhh, I don’t have a “practice”, genius. Like most people in my profession, I am employed and work where I am told to work.

And either way, I do not, and never have, worked from home. I actually have to shower, shave, wear nice clothes, and travel to a workplace. It’s what professionals do

It's what your profession does. Computer virus boy can likely accomplish more before 10 am wearing his sweatpants on the couch than most of us do in a week.

Except for getting laid of course, but I'm sure the sex robots will take care of that in the next decade.

the urban politician Mar 3, 2022 2:19 PM

^ Good point

Steely Dan Mar 3, 2022 2:30 PM

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Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 9555256)

Except for getting laid of course, but I'm sure the sex robots will take care of that in the next decade.


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pip Mar 3, 2022 2:41 PM

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Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 9555256)
It's what your profession does. Computer virus boy can likely accomplish more before 10 am wearing his sweatpants on the couch than most of us do in a week.

Except for getting laid of course, but I'm sure the sex robots will take care of that in the next decade.

you people really are jealous or have some sort of unresolved issue with people that get to work from home. You don't like that people work remote then bring up sex. wtf

pip Mar 3, 2022 2:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9555233)
Uhh, I don’t have a “practice”, genius. Like most people in my profession, I am employed and work where I am told to work.

And either way, I do not, and never have, worked from home. I actually have to shower, shave, wear nice clothes, and travel to a workplace. It’s what professionals do


you really screwed up choosing your profession!

suburbanite Mar 3, 2022 3:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9555281)
you people really are jealous or have some sort of unresolved issue with people that get to work from home. You don't like that people work remote then bring up sex. wtf

You missed the entire point.

the urban politician Mar 3, 2022 3:24 PM

^ Yeah, the problem with the WFH people is that they don't actually meet eachother, so they aren't aware of the dysfunction. I do. Some of them are seriously scary

To be fair, most of them are well adjusted (if a bit unkept), as they lived a life pre-COVID and so have some concept of what it is like to spend a day around other humans. But some of these newer people into the workforce......... :crazy:

JManc Mar 3, 2022 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 9555157)
I work in oil and gas, haven’t heard a peep from my company about going back to the office, although in my line of work I have to find a job every 3 months to a year or so. I worked for EQT when the rona started, had to work from home for them since the lockdowns happened; until my project ended in Sept of 2021 and they laid everyone off. The new company I work for, which is a law firm, had a strict 8-5 office policy where everyone had to wear suits and ties to the office everyday. I’ve been to the office once for the 6 months I’ve worked there and there’s no signs they want us back in the office. And oil and gas law firms are usually run by very Republican people. They prob figured that it saves them tons of money on computers, energy costs, coffee costs etc and will just have us stay at home indefinitely, until I get laid off soon probably.

In the jobs I do other than one that I had, they’ve all been remote though. The best gig I had I got put on some bs oil and gas lease ownership update spreadsheet project where I really only had to work 4 hours a day to get all my shit done. That year was awesome, I traveled everywhere and just worked some hours everyday at a coffee shop wherever I was. Can’t do that now as I need 3 screens to do my job and have to work about 12 hours a day as oil and gas companies have gotten insanely competitive and don’t pay brokers like they used to. Projects that were allotted 2 weeks per file, which is really what it takes to do a good job, they now want done in 30 hours. It’s insane. All I do now is fucking work.

My wife works in oil and gas too but she had to go back to the office back in May of 2020. Their CEO does not believe in WFH at all. Very stodgy and old school.

As much as I am enjoying sleeping in and WFH, half the fun working in tech is the free food and funky office vibe. Plus, I don't really know my coworkers outside 30 minute zoom meetings.

pdxtex Mar 3, 2022 4:45 PM

wfh is here to stay but 100 percent remote is only going to be for a small segment of the workforce. probably gig work, contracts, global high tech will embrace it most. everyone else will go back to working next to real live ppl. hybrid schedules are definitely here to stay tho. photolith, you should look for a job in electricity. there are tons of utility jobs right now.

JManc Mar 3, 2022 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pdxtex (Post 9555462)
wfh is here to stay but 100 percent remote is only going to be for a small segment of the workforce. probably gig work, contracts, global high tech will embrace it most. everyone else will go back to working next to real live ppl. hybrid schedules are definitely here to stay tho. photolith, you should look for a job in electricity. there are tons of utility jobs right now.

Time to invest in razor and deodorant stocks as people return to the office.

Yuri Mar 3, 2022 4:53 PM

Even though I've always been for anti-Covid measures as a necessary step to reduce deaths, @the urban politician has a point.

To me it's very worrisome this introversion glorification that's been a thing even before Covid. We're social beings and it's a very social skills are very incredibly important for our survival as both individuals and societies.

So, yes, know how to deal with other people, even if you don't like, it's a positive trait and should be encourage.

mrnyc Mar 3, 2022 5:01 PM

my spouse is in tech and she remains often the only one, or one of a handful at most, in the office when she chooses to go in, like 1-2x/wk.

and the office building is a full block of over 1M sq ft in hudson square -- it's crazy, but tech doesn't really need to be in there --

although i would say other agencies should and sales should and the like.

pdxtex Mar 3, 2022 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9555467)
Time to invest in razor and deodorant stocks as people return to the office.

Its funny seeing how office style and dress codes have changed. Also three dudes in my office grew 90s pony tails!

Steely Dan Mar 3, 2022 5:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pdxtex (Post 9555483)
Also three dudes in my office grew 90s pony tails!

i haven't had a haircut in over 2 years now.

it's now way past my shoulders.

it's like i'm 19 again!

mrnyc Mar 3, 2022 5:03 PM

yes and a lot of women have especially noticeable long pandemic hair.

pdxtex Mar 3, 2022 5:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuri (Post 9555469)
Even though I've always been for anti-Covid measures as a necessary step to reduce deaths, @the urban politician has a point.

To me it's very worrisome this introversion glorification that's been a thing even before Covid. We're social beings and it's a very social skills are very incredibly important for our survival as both individuals and societies.

So, yes, know how to deal with other people, even if you don't like, it's a positive trait and should be encourage.

Correct. Watch old westerns. They all have that weird gold prospector who lives out in the hills with his mule. Everybody else lives in town. For a reason. Thats what remote work is. Less need for direct management and more independent. That's not most of society tho.

Buckeye Native 001 Mar 3, 2022 5:09 PM

I go in at least once a week, but my department actually downsized last year moving from one building to another smaller one where in our new building, nobody besides the chief has an individual office, we all share touchdown stations that we can plug into and do work at the office as needed.

pdxtex Mar 3, 2022 5:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 9555485)
i haven't had a haircut in over 2 years now.

it's now way past my shoulders.

it's like i'm 19 again!

I had a taxidriver mohawk for about a week. It was funny.

Trae Mar 3, 2022 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9555281)
you people really are jealous or have some sort of unresolved issue with people that get to work from home. You don't like that people work remote then bring up sex. wtf

In another thread he said he likes hitting on girls at his office so idk maube thats why lmao

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Originally Posted by Yuri (Post 9555469)
Even though I've always been for anti-Covid measures as a necessary step to reduce deaths, @the urban politician has a point.

To me it's very worrisome this introversion glorification that's been a thing even before Covid. We're social beings and it's a very social skills are very incredibly important for our survival as both individuals and societies.

So, yes, know how to deal with other people, even if you don't like, it's a positive trait and should be encourage.

I agree to a point. Like it is real easy to shoot the shit for a few minutes before meetings. Due to WFH I've gotten to know coworkers who were in other offices a lot more. The human interaction I still get from friend groups outside of work and coworkers I already had relations with I still see.

There's a few women who all got hired at my org while weve been 100% remote and they've become friends with other women who were already at the company, as in going out together. I think a lot of this interaction depends on work culture too. Dont get me wrong many do like how it's easier to cut off from others now but these same people were the ones who kept mostly to themselves at the office I feel like.

The people I worry about most are the Zoomers and generation under them. The digital space is really picking up and they are a big reason why. Most of these people are just kids and not even in the workforce yet but they will be. The oldest Zoomers are in their early 20s now.

suburbanite Mar 4, 2022 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trae (Post 9556153)
In another thread he said he likes hitting on girls at his office so idk maube thats why lmao


I can say with 100% certainty that I never said that.

Trae Mar 4, 2022 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 9556167)
I can say with 100% certainty that I never said that.

Urban politician:

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9532264)
How do single 20 somethings hook up with the ladies if they WFH?

I mean, one of my favorite things about being in my 20s was flirting with women (or more) at work.

You are missing out on THE ESSENCE OF IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!

actin like a true politician lol

the urban politician Mar 4, 2022 1:33 AM

^ I’m proud of that statement.

Humans are not robots. We desire company

WFH is a step in our evolution towards irrelevancy. Replace us with computers (or workers from the Philippines) already!!!

photoLith Mar 4, 2022 1:44 AM

Nearly all the women Ive been with I met at either work or at college. Got lucky with a few from Tinder, but that was like 6 years ago. Never been successful getting with a girl at a bar. I did however date a girl I met randomly at an archaeological park in Ohio for a while.

Trae Mar 4, 2022 1:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TWAK (Post 9553303)
No. Plenty of bay area people on here, me, friends, and family said it was awesome. This reeks of politics/upset at wearing masks which has been linked to autism (I can provide sources).

Lol how are you going to tell me no? What a weird thing to say. Also not sure what your swipe at autism was for either. It doesn't make any sense.

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Again, no. Most restaurants never closed or have at least been open since June of 15 last year. In other states they don't even understand the concept of outdoor dining, while we already had it before the pandemic. California had a tiered system so an experience in Malibu is not the same in let's say, SD or Sac. Drive 15 minutes north or south and you can find an area that meets your tastes. Plenty of businesses did not require masks for the statewide order and it's a scam perpetuated by a select few who claim CA was the lockdown state.
Are you trying to tell me there were restaurants that were not forced to close? The whole point of the Malibu example was the absurdness of what was going on in Californian at the time.

the urban politician Mar 4, 2022 1:44 AM

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Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 9556278)
Nearly all the women Ive been with I met at either work or at college. Got lucky with a few from Tinder, but that was like 6 years ago. Never been successful getting with a girl at a bar. I did however date a girl I met randomly at an archaeological park in Ohio for a while.

^ Common sense

Not popular in these parts

Trae Mar 4, 2022 1:48 AM

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Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 9556278)
Nearly all the women Ive been with I met at either work or at college. Got lucky with a few from Tinder, but that was like 6 years ago. Never been successful getting with a girl at a bar. I did however date a girl I met randomly at an archaeological park in Ohio for a while.

College is different. Work is just weird IMO. There are plenty of girls outside of work to meet. Not saying run-ins don't happen naturally but to actively hit on girls at work is not cool. Like when I've gone out with female coworkers at a convention or whatever, I'm not trying to get with them at the bar. There's plenty of other women there.

the urban politician Mar 4, 2022 12:39 PM

^ Damn, Mr Self-Righteous, what are you the date police? Sheesh

If two consenting adults like each other they like eachother. Go preach your shit under a bridge somewhere

the urban politician Mar 4, 2022 12:43 PM

Our grocery store ended masking

Went there to buy some Truly, was nice seeing faces again.

I love being a living human being. Humanity, folks. We may be in the last century of it anyhow so revel in it!

Trae Mar 4, 2022 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9556522)
If two consenting adults like each other they like eachother. Go preach your shit under a bridge somewhere

Didnt I say that? I've had my own with a grand total of 3 girls at work during my professional career and I have to say it was not worth it in the end. Way better to keep that play outside of what pays the bills because the options are plentiful but do you lol.

SAN Man Mar 4, 2022 2:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9556523)
Our grocery store ended masking

Went there to buy some Truly, was nice seeing faces again.


I love being a living human being. Humanity, folks. We may be in the last century of it anyhow so revel in it!

^This is a Truly nice story.


It would be funny if it wasn't so cruel, but school children, the ones that are the least likely to even come down with cold like symptoms, are the last ones to go mask free. It's science!

photoLith Mar 4, 2022 4:15 PM

I had to go into our public library yesterday to use their printer. A whole bunch of school children were in there and had their worthless cloth masks on still and the library still requires them. I haven’t worn a mask in well over a year. They wouldn’t let me in without one and they didn’t have any. So I had to drive to Walmart to buy one. So stupid. Guess the last place you can contract Covid is in public libraries but not Walmart. All of this is so laughable. I feel bad for the kids still not getting proper socialization as they don’t see faces all day long. They’re going to be pretty screwed up.

Steely Dan Mar 4, 2022 4:25 PM

we've been told that CPS will be dropping the mask mandate for its schools "soon".

but with the way this stupid pandemic has been going, who the fuck knows what "soon" even means anymore?

next week?

next month?

next year?

next decade?


impossible to know.

the urban politician Mar 4, 2022 4:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SAN Man (Post 9556603)
^This is a Truly nice story.


It would be funny if it wasn't so cruel, but school children, the ones that are the least likely to even come down with cold like symptoms, are the last ones to go mask free. It's science!

Not in my school. They went mask optional a few weeks ago.

My older son in particular was happy to stop wearing a mask, it kept making his glasses fog up

the urban politician Mar 4, 2022 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 9556715)
we've been told that CPS will be dropping the mask mandate for its schools "soon".

but with the way this stupid pandemic has been going, who the fuck knows what "soon" even means anymore?

next week?

next month?

next year?

next decade?


impossible to know.

It’s when they decide that giving up on the mask fight is not a sign of weakness or relinquishing their power. Masks are at least in part political, we’ve all known this for a while

the urban politician Mar 4, 2022 4:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trae (Post 9556557)
Didnt I say that? I've had my own with a grand total of 3 girls at work during my professional career and I have to say it was not worth it in the end. Way better to keep that play outside of what pays the bills because the options are plentiful but do you lol.

You’d have hooked up with 4 girls

The only thing that stops a man from sleeping with a beautiful woman is the beautiful woman. We all know it’s true.

The penis is always the bigger brain

eschaton Mar 4, 2022 4:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9556726)
You’d have hooked up with 4 girls

The only thing that stops a man from sleeping with a beautiful woman is the beautiful woman. We all know it’s true.

The penis is always the bigger brain

There are definitely cases I've decided not to go after women because they were like best friends with a good female friend of mine, and I was worried about how awkward it might be if things didn't work out.

SteveD Mar 4, 2022 4:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9556724)
Not in my school. They went mask optional a few weeks ago.

My older son in particular was happy to stop wearing a mask, it kept making his glasses fog up

Metro Atlanta schools mostly mask optional now. I'm seeing fewer and fewer masks in our neighborhood bars and restaurants in EAV.

SAN Man Mar 4, 2022 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eschaton (Post 9556742)
There are definitely cases I've decided not to go after women because they were like best friends with a good female friend of mine, and I was worried about how awkward it might be if things didn't work out.

Having close friends that are girls is also a good way of getting introduced to some of her single friends. She'll invite the two of you to a social gathering and there's the opportunity for a match to be made. A lot of couples meet this way, through a mutual friend.

photoLith Mar 4, 2022 4:54 PM

I guess I forgot that I’ve also hooked up with girls that have lived in other apartments in buildings I’ve lived in. Anyways, my jobs are different than most, they only last like a year or less usually in my line of work. So hooking up with someone at work where the job doesn’t last long is a little different than hooking up with someone at a job you might have for ten years, which could royally fuck things up.

Trae Mar 4, 2022 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9556726)
You’d have hooked up with 4 girls

The only thing that stops a man from sleeping with a beautiful woman is the beautiful woman. We all know it’s true.

The penis is always the bigger brain

Nope because I declined the 4th one. The first one was cool but people in the office started to figure it out then started getting into our business, "Yall doing a little bump and grind?" "what are you and WOMAN up to huh?", etc. That was annoying and she eventually found a new job. The second was also cool. I decided to get involved with her because I thought I'd hide the relationship better which I did (and her too). She left after having a run in with our manager at the time, so I got lucky there. The third was in a completely different office than me but she'd fly down from the Bay to visit. Besides the fact she was in a different office, she was also in a higher position at the time and a few years older, so it was easy to hide (she married some other dude her age and has a kid now).

Those experiences (all at the same job that I'm still currently at) made me not want to get involved with this temp we had. She would come to my cube lifting up her shirt to see if I could see her "rash" (there was none of course). Then other female coworkers would come by later telling me it's inappropriate for her to be lifting up her shirt at my cubicle. Like no shit but what I'm I gonna do? I didn't need that shit but then we went remote full-time at my company.

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Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 9556761)
I guess I forgot that I’ve also hooked up with girls that have lived in other apartments in buildings I’ve lived in. Anyways, my jobs are different than most, they only last like a year or less usually in my line of work. So hooking up with someone at work where the job doesn’t last long is a little different than hooking up with someone at a job you might have for ten years, which could royally fuck things up.

Yep this was my main point. Yall stay safe out there going back into the offices!

the urban politician Mar 4, 2022 7:10 PM

^ Don’t worry, they will be safe


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